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Czech firearm laws

Discussion in 'Legal' started by White Horseradish, Apr 26, 2005.

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  1. White Horseradish

    White Horseradish Member

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    So there I was, sitting and thinking. (I know, I know. Terrible habit) and I got to wondering.

    The Czech Republic is home to at least two firearm manufacturers. What rights with regard to their products do they have over there? Anybody know?
     
  2. thorn726

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    i wish i was answering you, but i am bumping- my grandma's family fled as Hitler rose to power, the Germans sure disarmed them, and i dont think the Russians gave any arms back. the Germans burned her town on their way out, but she went back later many times- heheh got to vote "YES" even though she didn't live there anymore , back in the 80s! so you can imagine what the arms laws were like then, i too wonder what they are now....

    this also makes me curious about Serbia/yugo/whatever is there, after all the unrest, and one of my good friends had to go back (immigrant).
     
  3. JardaXor

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    Is it out of date, but I can answer - here in Czech rep. we have gun laws very liberal. Can be better, but in compare to other countries around ... liberal :)
     
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  5. Jim March

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    You know why they don't allow trampolines in that country?

















































    To avoid bounced Czechs.
     
  6. dasmi

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    :barf: :barf: :barf: ^^^
     
  7. Phoenix_III

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    Bump - No specifics? Liberal compared to other areas might be 'air-rifles are allowed for our olympic team only'

    =)
     
  8. JardaXor

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    Bump - No specifics? Liberal compared to other areas might be 'air-rifles are allowed for our olympic team only'

    Sure. But I did't know if is it still interesting for you. Or somebody else.

    Now I'm in my office with CZ75 in the holster. Full size magazine, 16 Federal EFMJ.
    OK, I take our laws and translate. Very simply, is it about 50 pages and my english isn't good :)
    First - guns are sorted to categories.
    D - (airgun, flobert, percusion etc) - there are free from 18 years.
    C - (rimfire with lenght>280mm, gasguns, rifles whitch can load (chamber + magazine) max. 3 rounds) and rifles with lenght>600mm.
    B - other guns but not automatic - my main category ;)
    A - automatic, insidious, silencers, ...

    Generaly, here are "gun passport" or how to translate. If you are 21 years old, you can order it. Police manage these orders, but it's claim from law for it.
    You need:
    - clear "offence register" (I don't know if this translation is apposite)
    - affirmation from your doctor (hi can require psychic test, if you looks strange :)
    - make test, which consist from 3 areas - law, technic and first aid.
    All of these are simple and for "normal" person it's formality.

    Next you can buy any gun. Cat. C you have to notice, for cat. B you need authorization (but it's your entitlement - formality. I have any time 2-3 in advance). Cat. A are "forbidden guns" and you need make special request - for collecting etc.

    Ammo are similiary - I can buy any ammo with my gun passport.

    Shooting is allowed on the firing ranges (or there where nobody take you :).
    Carying is allowed hidden only.
    Self-defence is allowed too, but isn't absolute clear - each incident is investigate separate. And judges are ... hmmm, oldtimers. But it's better year from year.
    You don't know our justice system, is totaly different from yours.

    It's very simple translation and explanation. Ask for details, if you will want.
     
  9. Phoenix_III

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    That was a great post thank you

    (Friend had a foreign student stay with him for over a year and we were all friends, I introduced them to shooting/rifle fun, and also had a CZ to show him, (from the Czech Republic) ). Of course this was in NJ too, of all the places. =)
     
  10. mbs357

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    Good to know there are other countries with good gun laws.
    Especially in the land of the best pistol ever.
    (Seriously, wouldn't it suck if your country produced one of the finest handguns in the world and you couldn't carry, or worse, own it?)
     
  11. DeseoUnTaco

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    YOU JUST RUINED MY DAY. Thanks a lot.

    Basically, California has worse gun laws than most of Europe apparently. Sounds like CZ has better laws than almost all of the US. No silly assault weapons, license to own = license to carry, even MGs are possible for collectors.

    I have to move to Europe at some point.
     
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    By the way, CZ has such a long and distinguished history of firearms design and craftsmanship that I'm glad to see that the laws allow citizens to own them so easily. It may not get much notice, but so many of the best gun designs that we use today are originally from CZ. And CZ has produced some really fine shotguns and hunting weapons.

    By contrast, the UK also had a big gun industry that produced some fine products, and now only a handful of manufacturers are left there, and the locals are not allowed to own much of anything, so it's dying there.
     
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    JardaXor- awesome , thanks!

    and Jim March- i am telling my grandma that joke, that is too funny.
     
  15. Jim March

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    One thing I find interesting about Czech and Slovakia is that they managed a "freindly divorce" with no warfare. Quite civilized, that, and something not often accomplished.
     
  16. JardaXor

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    For normal use is our law good. For simple sporting, self-defense, hunting ... But specialities like collecting aren't absolut simple as can looks from my explanation. Opposite to geting of guns of cat.B, where police have to argument why you can't (if they want, I don't know case of it), forbidden guns of cat.A you have argument them why.
    Ammo without CIP (we have great amount of military ammo, which was produced in the different -non civilian- marking, very cheap) aren't allowed for use. Theoretically, for collection, I need special request for this ammo, with specification of type, manufacturer, number of pieces etc.
    We're can't carry "ammo with heightened wounding" - JHP etc. If the bullet have a hole, is forbidden. :)
    Federal EFMJ is OK, Lapua CEPP Super is OK, but Lapua CEPP Extra not, because "have heightened armor-piercing", as said our "proving station of guns&ammo".
    It's strange and stupid.
    Generaly, our law is relative safe, simple and liberal for normal citizens. But for us, who love guns, should be better :)
    On the other side, if you visit CZ, you can shooting in the most of shooting ranges here, inside or outside, with somebody who have gun passport or directly under control of personal. Some shooting ranges profit on this "shooting turism" - Germans, Englishmans, Japanese, ...
    Slovenia have similiar laws, but I thing worse for carrying. I have to capture one on the net and confess them :)
     
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    No JHPs???
    =(
    What about JSP?
     
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    JSP is OK. Generaly, bullet couldn't have a hole. It's not absolute rule (see my post about Lapua CEPP Super vs. Extra).
    My solution are Federal EFMJ's - they aren't tested. Resp. was tested and result was "without result" :))))
     
  19. Faithless

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    So you can carry a pistol about on you?
     
  20. JardaXor

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    Be sure - as I said yesterday, I'm in my office with CZ75 (16 EFMJ) in the holster ... I don't have a gun only when I go to pub or similary occasion ...
    Never had to use, but who knows ... :)
    Of course, I have to put away in special places like courts etc. But they have safes for guns.
    Generaly, I have access with caryed gun to any public place, and if somewhere they want to puting away, they have make conditions for it. Safe or so on.
    On the other side, because we have only hide carying allowed, who's care in the bank, for example? They have pictogram on the doors, but nothing else. I'm not solving. After all, where I should use the gun better? :evil:
    But I'm not a common citizen, of course, weapons are my hobby.
     
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    Thanks for the reply.

    I've been looking at Eastern European countries that you can carry a pistol about and not be called a terrorist / crazy.

    Maybe when Czech Republic gets the Flat Tax, I'll stay there longer than a holiday.
     
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    I believe they do 3-gun in Czechoslovakia, as well.

    I usually can't stand all the silly "Well then move" comments coming from non-Californians, but this is funny. :D
     
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    I remember seeing a Czech-made Mauser, many years ago. The rifle was already quite old, at the time. It probably was produced in a former Mauser factory annexed by the Czecks, after they drove out the Germans
    I was in an army surplus store, in Jindrichuv Hradec, last week and inquired about a Walther 9mm P-22, in the showcase. Since, most Czechs outside of Prague master a minimum of western language proficiency, a customer, who was purchasing a contemporary German combat uniform, attempted translating my question about the gun to the saleswoman there. I asked if the weapon was real and she answered back "yes". It costed some 3200 Kroners (€133) which caused me to be doubtfull, after I calculated the price. I then went back to inquire a second time, with the suspicion that a brand new Walther 9mm was unusually inexpensive. Either it was a Chinese replica or a toy (no difference). After having inspected the weapon, it turned out to be a starter pistol.
    That incident is what led me to this site, after having Googled "Gun laws Czech Republic" or similar.
    I'm now back home. But, plan to return, in the near future, to obtain a real one. I would prefer to stay away from anything not using NATO calibers, if possible. I'm likely to obtain something from the resident Vietnamese bazaar vendors, near the border. But, prefer to do business with reputable persons. If that's not feasable, how are firearms laws in neighboring Slovakia?
    The only thing I know about the country is that they have a pro-Russian, Nationalist government
     
  24. Buck Nekkid

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    Not only does the CZech Republic have pretty sensible gun laws, compared to some of OUR states, they also have one helluva President. His name is Vaclav Klaus and he has stated publicly that Al Gore and the global warming crowd are nuts. Here's a pic of him giving a custom CZ 550 to President Bush--now if he was only running with Palin :)

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    Is anyone aware that this thread's last post (other than to today) is October 6th 2005!
     
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