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Dilettante

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Unlike many people here, I can still remember what it was like to be afraid of guns. In fact, I only started shooting this year.
The sense of "Oh my God, these things are supposed to be really deadly" goes away pretty quickly.
Now I find myself explaining to my liberal friends why it isn't weird to go shooting.
Recently I've been thinking about other dangerous things that we use everyday. The one that always comes up is cars, probably because they kill 4 or 5 times as many Americans as guns do. (By the way, all of the gun owners I've met so far have been much more careful with guns that the typical driver is on the road. :fire: I do know that not all gun owners are that responsible, but I plan to stick to people who are!)

So forget about cars. That analogy is old. I'm looking for other things that a lot of people use, without thinking about it, but we know that you have to follow certain rules.
Somebody mentioned swimming pools recently.
Toxic glues and solvents.
Electricity.
Stairs. For healthy people from 4 to 80 or so, this doesn't get a second thought. But your strength or coordination starts to go, every trip up or down can be a risky adventure.
Aspirin and other drugs. Often this has to do with small children taking too many; but some other drugs are dangerous if you (a) take too much, (b) take them too close together, (c) take certain other drugs, (d) are allergic to the drug, (e) get the same effect from a smaller dose of the drug (there can be a lot of reasons for this, like body weight, metabolism, slightly different receptors, etc.)

Does anyone have a new or unusual nominee?
Anyone with young children at home? :)
 
Motor vehicle. Despite being licensed and insured, and their operators licensed (for the most part) more peepul killed by them than by guns every year. But, you said forget about cars.

OK, how about benign things like swimming pools & drowning? If Gawd wanted man to swim like a fish, he'd give us gills.

How about food? Every now & then someone chokes to death yet no one thinks of suing the farmer and everyone else in the chain of distribution.

Then there's mankind and his self destructive ways. I'm not talking about wars or shootings. I'm talking about foolish things like living in an earthquake zone or near an active volcano, hurricane country or tornado alley. Why don't we just move to where it's safer. You'd think we'd have the sense to abandon our homes and communities to go where it's safe but NO, we stay where it's dangerous. :rolleyes: Finally, there's the greatest evil of them all. Exposure to TV and other forms of biased and mind numbing media. Kills the mind and makes non-thinking zombies out of a large chunk of the population.

'Scuse me, my favorite TV show is on and I'm going down to Macy's to watch it. ;)
 
The sense of "Oh my God, these things are supposed to be really deadly" goes away pretty quickly.

In my experience, safe shooters outgrow the "oh, my God" part, but never forget the "really deadly" part. It's insidiously easy to master the firing of firearms—they include the original point and click user interface, after all—without mastering the understanding that these are specifically designed and manufactured to be deadly weapons.

I used to shoot once in a great while at a range in Milpitas, The People's Republic of California where many of the shooters were able to point and click, but didn't seem to have realized how easily they could have killed people—me, for example.

End of safety rant from old timer.

I don't know of anything more dangerous than leftist politicians. Cars and chain saws and swimming pools and over the counter pills and the like can kill us individually, but leftist politicians are actively and wittingly engaged in attempting to kill our entire nation.
 
Food

How about food? Every now & then someone chokes to death yet no one thinks of suing the farmer and everyone else in the chain of distribution.

Forget choking, think about how many people die of heart attacks each year because of food. Has anyone ever won a lawsuit against a fast food restaurant because they were selling a "dangerous" product?
 
You're corrrect, Mike; Tylenol (and other generic acetomenophen-containing products) can kill your liver with a quite surprisingly small dose. Other categories worth a mention:


Bathtubs and shower stalls.

Falls, in general.

Hypothermia and hyperthermia, irregardless of the season.

Hot Dogs, among other edibles.

Legal and illegal drug overdoses, intentional and accidental. When combined with alcohol, higher rates of mortality are recorded.

5 gallon plastic 'pickle buckets' are exceedingly hazardous for toddlers, who can drown in them and do every year.

Automobile airbags.

Plastic drinking straws, pens, pencils and other objects accidently swallowed.

Bicycles, skates, skateboards.

High school football.

Intoxication by water or ethanol.

Carbon monoxide poisoning from faulty gas appliances, central or kerosene heaters, poorly vented fireplaces and (!) charcoal grills used indoors.

See also these links for enhancement:

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005124.html

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0110390.html

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005110.html

http://www.ouchystickers.com/facts2.htm

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
Little league baseball, seeing how many marshmellows you can stuff in your mouth at one time:uhoh: working with horses and yes, the oft discussed family dog gone bad.
 
Television ... the Vast Wasteland, the Great Satan. You know how many fires are started by television? And that's not even going into the effects that sedentary constant watching can have on your health.
 
Don't forget about plastic bags, or easy to swallow small legos and change.I have a pool so I have to watch that all the time. Someone could easily slip on the wet deck or even try to diving into the swallow end and hitting thier head on the bottom.
 
I knew someone would beat me to doctors. DOJ and NIH stats show medical malpractice has killed up to 3 times as many as all gun death in the U.S., and when it's limited to accidental gun death it's more like 9 times...

But otherwise, how about swimming pools? I know they at least kill more children. i.e. "real children" under 18, not VPC/Brady "children" over 21...
 
Just to put the statistics of other deaths in perspective, just how many people are killed by guns in the U.S. every year, including accidents, murder, self defense, and suicide?
 
Gas appliances.

Gas Appliances are very similar to guns in that most people are absolutely terrified of them b/c they know so little about them. The reality of it is that usually , you have to be really really doing something highly stupid to get into trouble with gas. This would include not having them checked annually by a competant service person.

999 out of 1000 gas appliances that emit Carbon Monoxide (CO), are emitting CO because they are dirty and have not been serviced and cleaned regularly. What happens is that dust is drawn into the air intakes, sticks and collects which restricts further air intake. The air/gas mixture is thrown off giving you incomplete combustion (it don't burn all the carbon) and deposits this carbon as soot within your furnace, further restricting flow and venting action and consequently starts venting this CO into your home. There are other causes of CO, but this is the biggest cause of CO from a gas appliance...

Heating season is upon us real soon. If your unit is 2 years old or more, have it serviced annually. Remember that even if it checks out OK by your service person, that it could manifest a problem after he leaves!!! Having it serviced is not a blanket guarentee that it'll not have any problems. If in doubt and wish peace of mind, A CO detector is in order. The ONLY brand of CO detector that I've not seen a false alarm from is a "Nighthawk" brand, available at your local Wally World. I recommend two, one by the unit in the mechanical room, and another for in the hallway where the bedrooms are.



"Whats in YOUR furnace?" I'll cut a good deal to any THR'er that (lives reasonably close) is in Colorado and wishes their unit serviced and checked out for the upcoming heating season. This is what I do. Licensed, insured, blah, blah blah..

Note; Propane gas is much more dangerous than Natural gas, being heavier than air it will fall and pool on the ground and STAY THERE. Unlike Natural gas which is lighter than air so will rise and exfiltrate out of the house through cracks & crevices. Questins are welcome, PM me.:)
 
A quibble

DMK, nobody is killed BY a gun. That's Schumer-talk. They may well be killed WITH a gun, however. How many, I know not.

Another thing that "everyone knows" is deadly-scary is nuclear power. Right? I mean, look at all the gazillions that have been killed in commercial nuclear power plant accidents in this country. Satire aside, ask a coal miner's widow how dangerous nuclear power is.
 
Just to put the statistics of other deaths in perspective, just how many people are killed by guns in the U.S. every year, including accidents, murder, self defense, and suicide?
According to the CDC Mortality Reports:

Total gun deaths in 2000(all intents, firearm, all ages): 28,663.
As above, to and including age 17: 1,544.
Age 10: 146.

Total motor vehicle deaths(all intents, motor vehicle overall, all ages): 43,604.
 
-Peanut butter
-Smoking
-McDonald's
-Swimming pools
-yapping on a cell phone while driving your super-sized SUV down the freeway at 35mph or 80mph (about equally dangerous)
-Being left-handed and working in a machine shop
-Working in non-managerial roles in a shipyard
-water heaters plumbed by some cretin after getting the 15-min intensive course on the subject at Home Depot
-working on a farm, esp. for juveniles
-improperly prepared fugu
 
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