mckormicnavistar
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Just how are the sheeple of DC going to get legal firearms . Are there any fireams dealers in DC????
DC just unveiled its new restrictions...
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Standing Wolf
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Where does it say all that in the Second Amendment?
The founding fathers would revolt.
The founding fathers would revolt.
KiltedClaymore
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why dont DC gun owners rise up and SLAY the *#@!%@!#$^! who endangered them AGAIN!!!
i now understand why the french used to cut the heads off THIER leaders
i now understand why the french used to cut the heads off THIER leaders
Novus Collectus
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There are legal firearms dealers in DC, but none of them have a shop. If guns are sold, they will be at most transfered through those dealers, but the current dealers do not expect to have a stock to sell from so it should be transfers only.
There is a possible way for a DC resident to acquire a handgun for registration legally without going through a dealer. They can buy a cap and ball revolver in MD or VA and then buy the cartridge conversion cylinder and then changing it to a modern revolver before bringing it back to DC. Upon getting back to DC they have to call the registration section to notify them and then bring the handgun in for registration in a certain amount of time. THis is of course if the bill they are about to vote on remains unchanged.
I know this because I asked the MPD.
Yah, I saw that too. The amnesty is a good thing. I wonder why they put it in the proposal?
I don't see enough evidence yet that D.C. wishes to ban semi-auto handguns. That will never fly. I can't believe that D.C. would be stupid enough to fight that battle.
A lot of the other obviously onerous and nonsensical provisions (i.e., keep unloaded and locked until a reaonable threat is perceived) will hopefully fall by the wayside in the D.C. Council consideration of the proposed rules.
These are just proposed rules and not the final rules, right?
They are subject to modification I take it. I think when the council deliberates on the rules, they would have to get some legal guidance on the reasonableness of the proposed rules. They would probably find it prudent to avoid instituting new rules that would clearly and easily be struck down again.
Novus Collectus
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They also want to keep a database of handgun ballistics.
Novus Collectus
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It is only an emergency provision set to last for 90 days. In September they will vote on another bill and it is supposed to be the permanent law, but even that may change with more fine tuning.
neededausername
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It has to be disassembled? All I own is a Mark III, I'm dead in their eyes. (Yes I know a .22 isn't considered that great for home defense, but it's better than nothing).
romma
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Again, what about bearing arms (carrying) in DC? When will a gun rights group attack DC on this issue? I wish whichever gun group is best suited would go for the throat on this issue.
Ahh, I see. Thanks, Novus.
Well, many of the provisions won't last, I'm sure.
It is good to see that the beginning of people being legally armed in their homes.
Way too many hoops to jump through and inanities, but this is the first pass on process changes.
Relative to D.C.'s position two months ago, this is HUGE progress. But it's just a first pass.
Think again! Since they must allow personally owned hanguns they now want to have them all registered and licensed. Once they know who has what they can start imposing conditions and requirements on both the guns and they're owners. Any owner that doesn't meet whatever standards they set up, or has a gun that also doesn't, will be required to turn it in.
Amnesty = way to get control.
:banghead:Nah, that's a slippery slope argument. Weak.
Assuming that is, that registration is a "reasonable regulation." Any other places in the U.S. where registration is imposed and gun ownership is allowed?
Just think, in a few days some D.C. residents will be armed for self-defense in their homes. And that is but a beginning.
The DC Mayor and Police Chief all need to see tons of negative feedback. Posting here makes us feel good about venting but we need to take the argument to the DC public.
I suggest each of us who live in the general area log in to as many DC based groups where comments are allowed and post up on any articles appearing about this crappy news.
Here's one:
http://www.dcblogs.com/
and another:
http://dcist.com/
and one more:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
I suggest each of us who live in the general area log in to as many DC based groups where comments are allowed and post up on any articles appearing about this crappy news.
Here's one:
http://www.dcblogs.com/
and another:
http://dcist.com/
and one more:
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/
Deanimator
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It's like one MORE banzai charge into massed machineguns. DC is as demented and malicious as the Japanese Army in 1945... and just as likely to succeed. They need to just fall on their grenade and get it over with.
Novus Collectus
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As Mickey Mouse the regulations in DC will be, they are absolutley no where near as bad as in Puerto Rico. Their law is draconian to the extreme. Hundreds of dollars just to own a handgun and hundreds more just to practice with it, you have to be a member of a gun club or else only be allowed to own fifty rounds of ammo, a two handgun limit, etc.
http://www.armeriametropolitanapr.com/faq.html
mejeepnut
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I have not read every post!If this has been brought up then sorry for brining it up again.
Lets say you live in D.C. and can't afford a new gun.You go to a gun shop and buy a used gun.You turn in the gun for testing and find out it was in a crime.You own a gun that was used in a crime!
what happens next?
How many hoops do you have to jump threw and how much $ is this going to cost before you can go get another gun?Does the gun shop now have to give you back your money?Will you ever be able to get another gun in D.C.?Is your name going to be in the paper and on the news because you possesed a firearm thats been in a crime and this is why the people should not have guns?Will the cops come to your house and search it to try to find more evidence that you were part of the crime even though you have a reciept saying you just bought it and who from?
I can see some horror storys in the making over this set of laws!
Lets say you live in D.C. and can't afford a new gun.You go to a gun shop and buy a used gun.You turn in the gun for testing and find out it was in a crime.You own a gun that was used in a crime!
what happens next?
How many hoops do you have to jump threw and how much $ is this going to cost before you can go get another gun?Does the gun shop now have to give you back your money?Will you ever be able to get another gun in D.C.?Is your name going to be in the paper and on the news because you possesed a firearm thats been in a crime and this is why the people should not have guns?Will the cops come to your house and search it to try to find more evidence that you were part of the crime even though you have a reciept saying you just bought it and who from?
I can see some horror storys in the making over this set of laws!
Really? Ask the folks that live in Chicago...
Registration and/or licensing are necessary components for regulation, because you can’t regulate that which you don’t know about.
They are already trying to use a generally unrecognized term, semiautomatic machine gun to prohibit ordinary semiautomatic pistols with what they consider to be an unreasonable magazine capacity. Do you really think that anyone that registers one will be allowed to keep it?
They fully intend to limit the different kinds of permissible handguns to the smallest number they can get away with (think of California’s requirements to limit purchase to manufacturers and models on an approved list); and narrow the circumstances one can be kept in a ready state to as few as possible.
They’re clear intent is to smother the “right to keep and bear arms” in a mountain of red tape and excessive fees – that will ultimately be part of the program.
And they will get away with it until the courts say they can’t, and there is no certainty that the courts will so rule.
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xjchief
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Ballistic profiling.
22-rimfire
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I wonder what DC residents are saying?
You can't regulate what you don't know about. Wow. I can't believe I said that. This whole business really upsets me. A million man march on DC that just happens to turn out that everyone is armed would be interesting. No jail will hold that many people. It could get ugly.
You can't regulate what you don't know about. Wow. I can't believe I said that. This whole business really upsets me. A million man march on DC that just happens to turn out that everyone is armed would be interesting. No jail will hold that many people. It could get ugly.
jrfoxx
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I thought that other than sugarman, who isnt going to sell or transfer squat
, there were only 2 FFL's in D.C., and both ONLY sold to and did transfers for LEO's, Govt types, armed security, etc. Has thier been any info from either dealer that indicates they will now sell to, or transfer for, "regular citizens" of D.C.? If not, then no one is getting a handgun in D.C. unless they already own it, or some new people get FFL's in D.C.
I dont see why the FFL's wouldn't do it, as they can make a truckload of money in transfers along most likely, and since there are only 2 in all of D.C., they could charge like $100 per transfer, and people would still pay it, as they have no other choice (noy saying the FFL's would charge that much, but they could), but who knows, they may get enough money doing things like they do now, and not want the hassle, in which case, D.C. residents are SOL still.
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