DC just unveiled its new restrictions...

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The new legislation also modifies existing law to clarify that firearms must be stored unloaded and either disassembled or secured with a trigger lock, gun safe or similar device, officials said.The legislation includes an exception if a person reasonably perceives a threat of immediate harm to a person within a registered gun owner's home.
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One could "perceive" every moment living in the DC area to be a "threat of immediate harm." DC officials have pretty much made their community a dangerous environment through their own actions. With that premise, an argument could be made to never need a trigger lock, safe, unloaded, or disassembled....have it hot and ready at all times.

This will be nothing more than a "scoff law".....ignored by the public just as illegal immigration laws are ignored by public officials. What else can one expect from a community that has the highest number of lawyers per capita.
 
registration, balistics testing, fingerprinting? are they using tax payers monies for this or is there a fee involved? sounds like they're trying to make the whole supreme court upheld, constitutionaly gaurenteed self defence right more trouble than most people are willing to go through.

who the hell keeps electing these people?
 
Rembrandt,

You beat me to it.

As bad as that city is a person could reasonably perceive he is an immediate threat all the time.
 
I wonder what DC residents are saying?
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I was talking to a DC resident in a bar the other day and I asked him (he was from SE) and he said it is about time, everyone down there has one already anyway including himself (I didn't have the heart to tell him he was a misdemeanor criminal as recently as a month ago)
He of course was talking about his peers in his age group (around thirty years old, male and living in SE DC). However, it is kinda telling that even the people without a record had a handgun for protection and there are apparently many (in that part of town at least).

Also what is very telling is that despite the antis, Fenty and the Brady Campaign claiming the overwhelming majority of DC residents wanted the ban, the city is now claiming so many people will be registering a handgun they have to limit it to one per person for the first ninety days so that the police department is not overwhelmed.
 
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who the hell keeps electing these people?
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Now,that is an incendiary question that I'll let somebody else answer to stay out of trouble.
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OK, I'll answer it.

The citizens of D.C. keep "electing these people."

Is it a trick question? What could you possibly say to answer that question that would get you in trouble, Solo Flyer? Hmmm.
 
MaterDei said:
Why are you guys so surprised? When liberals lose they act like babies, every time.
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I'd say this is a fault of politicians in general. I consider myself a middle-of-the-road moderate, and the conservatives definitely also have their little petty points they will try to sneak in time and time again, particularly the moral conservative busybodies.
 
even though it is DC, I'm sure you can just leave your gun loaded and unlocked in your house and just tell the police you were very fast to remove the lock in the event of an incident. There isnt really any way for them to hit you with that kind of provision unless DC also allows the police to watch you while you sleep (which wouldnt really surprise me). They may end up dropping that provision upon realizing that, but that may be giving them too much credit.
 
Isn't it a legal requirement that all FFL's must conduct buisness? They cannot just have the license and not use it. So why not call sugarmann and ask him to do some transfers? If he refuses report him to the BATFE.

But I imagine there wont be many FFL's in DC for long. I'm sure the next round of legislation will require any new dealers to pay a 25,000 dollar yearly tax to the district........
 
I'm not knowledgeable on court procedures, let alone Supreme Court procedures, so I may be way off base here. Correct me if I am. But it looks to me like they are looking for a re-do. They are hoping it will be tied up in court again long enough for at least one more justice to be appointed and try to have unreasonable restrictions put back into place, after a new administration has appointed new justices to replace retirees/deaths/whathaveyou. :cuss:
 
I'm not knowledgeable on court procedures, let alone Supreme Court procedures, so I may be way off base here. Correct me if I am. But it looks to me like they are looking for a re-do. They are hoping it will be tied up in court again long enough for at least one more justice to be appointed and try to have unreasonable restrictions put back into place, after a new administration has appointed new justices to replace retirees/deaths/whathaveyou.
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I think it is more that they're playing an end game: Drag their feet considerably, mostly out of bias but also some spite. But not so dragging that they end up with another monumental court case they are sure to lose.
Fenty and Lanier know they've lost the war. All they can do is reasonably comply with Heller. Any other strategy choice is a loser for D.C.
 
Amnesty to catch all of those arms previously used in criminal behavior (read defensive gun use) that ballistics testing could link the arms to.
Also this will be a way to filter out those arms stolen and then sold black market to DC residents.
 
Is it a trick question? What could you possibly say to answer that question that would get you in trouble, Solo Flyer? Hmmm.
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You Hmmm beautifully FCFC!
Thank you for diplomatically answering that loaded question!I could not have done it half so well.;)
 
even though it is DC, I'm sure you can just leave your gun loaded and unlocked in your house and just tell the police you were very fast to remove the lock in the event of an incident. There isnt really any way for them to hit you with that kind of provision unless DC also allows the police to watch you while you sleep (which wouldnt really surprise me). They may end up dropping that provision upon realizing that, but that may be giving them too much credit.
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That sounds right. But the requirement to keep a gun inoperative will probably come into play if a gun is stolen from a residence and it is not inoperative.

In many cases that would be difficult to prove, of course. But in some cases it would be determinable (i.e., catching a burglar as he is exiting a hit).
 
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who the hell keeps electing these people?

Now,that is an incendiary question that I'll let somebody else answer to stay out of trouble.
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That's easy. It's the same people who elected a crackhead, found our he REALLY WAS a crackhead, then elected the same crackhead again once he got out of prison.

As far as I'm concerned that whole incident is proof postive that Washington DC shouldn't have a right to vote on ANYTHING ever again.

The man won AGAIN in 2004 with 95% of the vote! 95%!!!!!!!! HE SMOKES CRACK!!!!!!!! 95%!!!!!!!!!!!
 
i say its time to revolt. ive had enough. they will never stop pushing and socializing this country. i am SICK of it.
 
About DC's "Amnesty" and the other restrictions/laws.

Once again the lawmakers in DC are trying to place the entire burden of compliance on the LAW ABIDING GUN OWNER who IS TRYING TO OBEY THE LAW.

We KNOW that the only folks who are going to use this "amnesty" and register their "formerly illegal" guns are those wanting some personal safety but also wishing to be within the bounds of the law.

So let's imagine for a moment that someone has a break-in, that the firearm is stolen and then later used in a crime. Following those crimes the firearm is recovered by the police. Let's see here, whom do you think they are going to trace that gun back to? Certainly not the criminal who used it and dumped it. Nope, the trail will go straight back to the original LEGAL owner and that is the door the police are going to be knocking on.

And do you think that, upon tracing the firearm back to the LEGAL owner, they will just say "oh here's your stolen property and you can have it back"? Somehow I think it's going to be more along the lines of dumping all the blame on the LEGAL owner for "allowing" the evil and murderous weapon to be stolen. In other words the owner will get victimized twice and will be crucified in the press to boot.

I'd be really interested in seeing DC make some laws concerning criminals and stop picking on the folks who aren't preying on society.
 
HomeDepotGeorge:

Yes, all semi-autos are banned under the "machine gun" law (even shotguns). The "reasoning" is that the ban covers any firearm that *could* fire more than 12 rounds without reloading.

Shotguns = Aguila mini shells = BANNED. Pistols = there exists or could be WECSOG'd any magazine with a capacity greater than 11 rounds = BANNED. Rifles = "could be modified/WECSOG''d" or there exists magazines over 11 rounds = BANNED.
 
I have already sent my $300. We should all donate something. Realistically, I don't have a lot of money at all. To the point that to cut down on electric costs, I use kerosene lanterns, however, I still sent in 300 dollars to NRA-ILA because I believe with all my heart it will make a difference.
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Ummmmmmmmm... NRA-ILA is a lobbying group. It won't do a thing about this case. It's job is to lobby elected officials to repeal gun control laws.

The NRA Civil Defense Fund is the organization that files lawsuits. You should have given your $300 to them if you wanted your dollars to help fight DC.
 
The legislation includes an exception if a person reasonably perceives a threat of immediate harm to a person within a registered gun owner's home.
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This is just plain unreasonable. Nothing has been done to let residents protect themselves in their own homes. As others have said, by the time you unlock the safe, find your bullets, load the weapon and THEN start to take action toward the protection of yourself and family......... it'll be all over, 'cause you're probably dead by then.

pass a written firearms test and provide photos, proof of residency and proof of good vision. They will also be fingerprinted.
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Are you f____ kidding me?!? D.C. is a Nazi state.
 
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