Decent rasp ?

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I have four four in hand wood rasps in my wood working tool box and all are dull. My son was going to Home Depot this morning and I got him to pick up a Nicholson for me. The fine side is ok, the course side looks like it was hand forged by someone that could qualify as legally blind. I need some recommendation for a decent quality brand.
 
Nicholson unfortunately has moved their manufacturing offshore and their quality has suffered. Seek out old, dusty mom and pop hardware stores for old stock made in USA Nicholson products.
 
It is hard to find the good older Nicholson #48 and #49s anymore.

Go to the site Tools for Working Wood.

Their Grammercy line of rasps are excellent.

Don’t expect to pay Nicholson HD prices.

Liogier Rasps are even more highly regarded and cost still more. Lee Valley and Woodcraft sell these.

Another which is regarded highly but I have no experience with is Auriou. They are sold through Lie Nielsen and Craftsman Studio.
 
I use the Nicholson pattern makers rasps from Brownells.The two I have are excellent quality.They are expensive.
 
In the old days I wouldn't buy anything but Nicholson because they were so good. I knew their manufacture had moved off shore but didn't realise just how far the quality has dropped.They should be ashamed to put their name on something this sorry and it's going back to Home Depot.

Earl, I'll check out your suggestions and also take a peak at what Brownell's has.
 
Just a bit of,maybe not so trivia.....

"Back in the day",when handmade files cost a cpl days wages(18th,and early 19th centuries),you didn't toss "dull" files. One trick was to throw them out the shop door into the grass during times of year when the dew was high. I've done it and it kinda works,needs a week. Not saying the metallurgy of today is as receptive but hey,what do you have to lose?

All my "good" rasps are older,VERY well pampered(nice handles,hung up,not banging into each other)USA versions. I have heard favorable reports on the Swiss Grobet's. Good luck on your quest.
 
Yes, Grobet are among the best in the world. Used them for making surgical instruments. Worth the (large amount of ) money.
 
I remember an outfit offering a file sharpening kit, don't recall who. Seems like you soaked the dull file in an acid solution for a few hours then rinsed it thoroughly, may have been some other steps. Worked ok according to the article I read.
 
ive shaped many many guns stocks for my custom muzzle loading rifles. after cutting the stock out line out i rough shape very fast with the best wood rasp available. a horses hoof rasp avail at most farm stores or on the internet. their is none better, one side of it for ruff shaping the other side for finer shaping. will last and last.
 
It is hard to find the good older Nicholson #48 and #49s anymore.

Another which is regarded highly but I have no experience with is Auriou. They are sold through Lie Nielsen and Craftsman Studio.

I second the Auriou. Yes, they are expensive, but hey are the best wood rasps and rifflers I have used to date. The teeth look very aggressive and look like they would leave deep gouges in the wood, but they do not. Nicholson has sold out, they are made outside the USA and are crap, look for old ones that are still serviceable.


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I remember an outfit offering a file sharpening kit, don't recall who. Seems like you soaked the dull file in an acid solution for a few hours then rinsed it thoroughly, may have been some other steps. Worked ok according to the article I read.
I have read that soaking the rasp in white vinegar will sharpen them.
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Also, Boggs Tool & File Sharpening Co. are an outfit that will sharpen files and rasps. I used them a few years ago and they did a great job.
 
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ive shaped many many guns stocks for my custom muzzle loading rifles. after cutting the stock out line out i rough shape very fast with the best wood rasp available. a horses hoof rasp avail at most farm stores or on the internet. their is none better, one side of it for ruff shaping the other side for finer shaping. will last and last.

Indeed. I have three in my tool cabinet just for gunstocks. They are a bit of overkilll for pistol grips though.

I have found something that removes wood faster and easier on gunstocks than a horseshoe rasp. It's the small, cheap, can be had for about 12 bucks on sale, Harbor Freight right angle grinder outfitted with a 5" pad for velcro backed sanding discs. It's also overkill for pistol grips.
 
I have sharpened files with vinegar for years. Any file, cheap or expensive, can be made to cut wood effectively and cleanly if soaked in vinegar. I got curious when I saw a label on some edged tool that said "chemically sharpened". Found out that acid will eat the metal all over at the same rate, pointing up a rounded tooth edge as the opposing slopes get eaten away.

I thoroughly degrease, then soak for a few days, neutralize with baking soda, rinse in very hot water, and dry. Duration of the soak will depend on the original condition of the file. I will say that the first few I did were soaked too long and the edges were weakened. Those files became no good to use on metal.

When done right, the file will actually snag your fingerprints when you lightly rub your hand over it. It makes a world of difference using these on wood. "Cuts like butter".

My favorite large shaping file is a hoof rasp called "The Plater's Special". Medium-fine rasp on one side and file on the other. Evidently, racing horses get thin shoes (plates) on their feet, and farriers need a very good rasp to get the job done.

Good luck and remember,

THR rocks.
 
ok i have been reluctant to reply here as so many are ready to jump on anything different. i was using a local black smith and machinest years ago up near the canadian border to do some gun parts for me. he told me this. soak you old files in hydracloric acid for a while and they will return to better than new. infact he was making one gallon jugs of it and selling it in n.dak. dont know the strength of the H acid but it really works well. try at your own risk. just giving info out that seems to follow what is being said here and i know it really worked as thirty years ago i had a gallon of it and my files went back to better than new.
 
If you and see shiny spots on the tips of the teeth it's dull. I do know a trick for sharpening rasps taught to me by an old cowboy many years ago. He brought in a very dull horseshoeing rasp and asked me to sharpen it. I looked at him like he was crazy and he said "It's easy with your angle grinder. Just make a flat pass over the rasp and cut the teeth down just a little." It works. You can do the same with a sanding disc on wood rasps with finer teeth.

I have an addition to my rasp story. At the same time I purchased the rasp I was complaining about I also purchased a 10" half-round coarse cut Nicholson file that had to be ordered in. It took a time to arrive but I'm happy to report it seems to be every bit as good as the old Nicholson USA made files. It was made in Brazil, not China, has no rough edges or mis-shaped teeth and is sharp as a razor.
 
I remember an outfit offering a file sharpening kit, don't recall who. Seems like you soaked the dull file in an acid solution for a few hours then rinsed it thoroughly, may have been some other steps. Worked ok according to the article I read.
Vinegar is your friend
 
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