"Decommissioned, replica, or airguns" being converted into "real" guns?

[macFarlaine]

Ammo in Britain is readily available if you have the correct paper work.We have a good supply of gunshops and country retailers.
Wattle first then daub.Part of our house is made from wattle and daud,very warm and still standing after 346 years.

 

[woodybrighton]

not easy to come buy with out paperwork
a soldier got done for trying to sell 21 rounds of 9mm ammo for £100

homemade weapons are possibility but home made ammo much harder
the police are going after certain types of blank firing weapons cause they keep finding them in the hands of crims.
turning the new deactivated weapons back into functioning weapons is as hard
as building an ak

lot of violence in UK is drink fueled fighting kick off time used to be when the pubs closed about 11pm this may change now 24hr drinking has been brought in so no large groups of young men with no where to go will take some years to work.
but my regiment has a bill for wrecking a pub in holland in the 1600's that before there was a US
we like fighting and drinking unfortunatly just not so keen on lethal fighting

 

[Limeyfellow]

I guess at least in Britain it is relatively easy to get a sound suppressor and it is a weird country when you can get a semi automatic shotgun, but not a pump action.

 

[woodybrighton]

you can get a semi auto or pump on a shotgun certificate
but if you want more than two shots you need a firearms certificate

 

[Roswell 1847]

we like fighting and drinking unfortunatly just not so keen on lethal fighting

Around here the Am Vets post is called the Knife and Gun club, because of all the shootings and stabbings that took place there.

I once witnessed , but avoided getting caught up in, what may be the biggest bar fight in history at the Balconey Dance Hall. There were at least three hundred people fighting like gladiators for two hours or so. Every County and City cop for a fifty mile radius was called in to break it up.
No one got shot or stabbed in that one though.

 

[woodybrighton]

based in Cyprus in 1990 my regiment celebrates Quebec day day general Wolfe stormed the heights of Quebec killed loads of french.
notices the Canadian Quebec regiment is on a UN tour invites there senior officers to our celebration strangely they don't turn up
so after a few drinks que 200 odd squaddies getting bus across Cyprus to taunt the French Canadians
result massive punch up Cypriot police UN military police royal military police etc etc.
not impressed to discover the reason for the brawl written up as the last battle of the 7 years war
probably won't be the last punch up French Canadians are too easy to wind up

 

[hopkin]

The idea that most lethal firearms were originally replicas or whatever is wrong. A lot of the non-lethal gun crime, things like threatening a shopkeeper with a gun, is done with these kind of gun-like objects. Somehow this gets forgotten by the average (ignorant) person, who end up thinking any gun-like thingy is potentially lethal. The anti-gun crowd also deliberately exploit this ignorance.

 

[TEDDY]

?????

a piece of steel electric conduit,a piece of round steel to fit,a round tube size of projectile, a spring to fit conduit.and a 3/8th rod couple inches long for cocking.or a sten kit and bridgeport.

 

[Roswell 1847]

Just remembered something.
Hanging on my wall is an antique popgun that was ancient when I was a kid.
I found it again some years back buried in the back yard where the old storage shed had been.

This gun is built better than an AK. Even its wooden stock was almost undamaged after nearly thirty years in the ground and the Nickle plating is about 90% intact.
The metal is thick and hard. Tough as a bumper jack.

I can remember my older brother slipping a 45 ACP cartridge down the bore and firing it. Theres a stub of metal sticking out of the piston which centers the primer just like a fixed firing pin.
How the toy gun held together is a mystery even though the barrel metal is thick and strong. It is seamed and folded steel.
Theres only a slight bulge at the muzzle.

The gun is designed much like the early Quackenbush air rifles and .22 bicyle rifles. Possible it was made by the same contractors that made these stamped sheet metal guns back in the day.

 

[woodybrighton]

UK police have seized several large caches of blank firing pistols being smuggled into the country by professional crooks so they are not brining them in to fire blanks

 

[bwavec]

I used to know a guy (who lived in Ireland) who had converted a 25mm marine flare pistol into a single shot 12ga pistol. I won't go into how, and we can agree the range and accuracy would be horrible. But at close range, I wouldn't want to be in front of it.

 

[matt87]

woodbrighton, I don't know the details of that case but certain types of blankfirer are not considered Kosher by 'our' (the government's?) police any more. Usually those which eject the gases forward; the old conversion argument which doesn't neccesarily follow, as discussed above.

 

[Javelin]

As long as my tax dollars dont go to the idiots that injure themselves doing this conversion crap. More power to them I guess.

 

[The Deer Hunter]

You could probably make a gun out of steel tubing, a nail, a bullet and a couple elastic bands.

 

[cortez kid]

Am personally in the process of converting a 1903A3 from a parade rifle to a functioning rifle. I had to pass the "check" when I first bought the rifle. So even thought the barrel was torched and plugged, the bolt was welded in the fireing pin hole, and the bolt release was welded shut, they still consider it a rifle. It will be in about 2 weeks .
kid

 

[Roswell 1847]

I used to know a guy (who lived in Ireland) who had converted a 25mm marine flare pistol into a single shot 12ga pistol.

A local bartender used to keep an antique Remington 12 ga flare pistol under the bar. It was one of the brass framed Naval models from the 19th century.

I saw one just like it at the antique store years ago, and wish I'd bought it at the time.
Not sure just how much pressure one of those guns would handle but it looked like sturdy frame.

Inserts with threaded breech caps can withstand the chamber pressure, The flare gun barrel just acts to hold the insert in place.


Some time ago at a gunshow I saw a German double barrel flare gun pistol, I think these were U-Boat issue.
There was a similar but much smaller double barreled teargas pistol, it looked to be made of zinc alloy, that one might have held up to garden gun 9mm shotshells but not much else.

I have an antique Remington line launching gun action (belonging to a friend's wife)which someone had roughly converted to a shotgun. I ditched the gaspipe barrel and I've been keeping my eye out for a proper replacement barrel.
These line lauchers were built on ten or twelve gauge shotgun frames but chambered for a .45/70 blank cartridge.
We'd figured on rebarreling the old gun as a flare launcher for their sloop but they just sold the sloop.
Not sure what we'll do with it.
Breech face needs to be bushed before I'd try any restorations.