Dedicated Deer Gun?

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I've also heard that the new Redfield's POI changes when you switch power.
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Been reading quite a few positive reviews on the Redfields from various sites from people that are actually using them an not just speculating. Haven't read any such thing about them changing point of impact and so far I've read they're tracking very well.

Whatever you do, just match the scope to the rifle. There are some hideously ugly mounts these days and you certainly don't need a hubble telescope on a nice trim lightweight.
 
I'm sorry to hear about the Redfield problems. Initial reports I had read were all positive.

The copy in the Kimber ad has to be a misprint. No way they are making aluminum barrels. The Kimber is over his budget, but I have been extremely pleased with my Kimber Montana in 308. Mine comes in at under 6 lbs with scope and mounts. The barrel on mine is steel. It is the 2nd most accurate rifle in my safe.
 
Well I am another satisfied Redfield customer. Mine works great at all powers. Of course I knew I was a guinea pig when I bought it but I couldn't be happier for that price.

I debated the Gloss/Matte scope decision too and even thought about shelling out the extra cash for a VX3 to get gloss. But when I compared scope finishes at the store I found that the gloss scope was shinier than the rifle itself which I did not like. I think the matte Leupolds looked better. The Featherweights are pretty but they dont have a real glossy finish, not enough to wear a glossy scope in my opinion. An A-bolt Medallion or something like that looks better with a Gloss scope. Of course this is purely a cosmetic and personal decision.

Another thing to consider is the Bushnell matte scopes have their rainguard finish which is semi-glossy and would match well. I just didnt want a Bushnell.
 
I'm sure that the text on the Kimber website was supposed to say aluminum bedded or something like that. They just added it as the 84L was not on their website last week. The article I read mentioned nothing about an aluminum barrel. You can google it. Its supposed to be exactly like the 84M, just in a long action. Also, no .280AI like I had heard. But, I also read somewhere about a lack of factory loaded proof rounds for development. Maybe with Nosler loading .280AI and supplying brass, they will produce it in .280AI next year.
 
Here is a pretty in-depth review that didn't show any POI shift and specifically mentions how well the Redfield tracks.
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The first thing that I always ask is does it appear (or is it blatantly obvious) that the writer was paid (advertising, company rep., or otherwise), or received free merchandise for the review. If so I discount the review. I am not saying that is the case with that review (but it could be, and seems to indicate that), but that is often the case with "best thing ever" reviews. The worst is gun rag reviews...often with an add on the following page for the item "reviewed".

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...so far I've read they're tracking very well.
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Most has come from 24hourcampfire, not knocking this site as it has it's merits but a lot more people over there have a lot more knowledge as a whole when it comes to optics & guns. Those reviews are from just everyday people with nothing to gain and I also question magazine reviews and what not when someone has a lot to gain by fluffing things up and maybe a lot to loose if they tell the whole truth.


And lets face it, a 150.00 scope in all likelihood isn't going to track as consistently as one costing 10x as much. More than anything else in life you tend to get what you pay for when it comes to optics.

Even the mid-lower end Leupolds aren't known for their consistent tracking. But once you get something sighted in, it really isn't all that important if it does track perfectly as long as it holds its zero.

I have 8-10 older Leupold friction adjust models that have never failed and have also never changed their point of aim. Several of them have scene countless miles in a four-wheeler scabbard or in a rifle scabbard on a horse.
 
For flat shooting, I guess, while I think it's a bit much for poor little whitetail around here, my 7 mag is sighted for a 250 yard zero and never tops 3" either way until it hits something just past 300. That's a pretty good point blank range in my mind. I prefer my .308 or my .257 Roberts for whitetail, though. Don't need no stinkin' magnum when I can't see more'n 150 yards, anyway. I've shot a few out west in the desert an mountains with that big 7, though. It gits 'er dun.
 
A. I would just download or use reduced recoil 30-06 loads (but I'm cheap that way). There are several fine bullets in the 130-140gr range, and would be very flat shooters out to 200 yards.

B. The .243, 25-06, .257 Roberts, .260, 6.5x55 will all do the job

C. The 7mm-08 is a great cartridge, and I certainly don't want to dissuage you from choosing the cartridge, but in a Featherweight might not be the reduced recoil gun you're looking for. I can't say (no first hand experience with the Featherweight in 7mm-08).

D. Burris Fullfield is a fine scope.
 
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Those reviews are from just everyday people with nothing to gain and I also question magazine reviews and what not when someone has a lot to gain by fluffing things up and maybe a lot to loose if they tell the whole truth.
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That is the only thing that I trust (at least somewhat).

But once you get something sighted in, it really isn't all that important if it does track perfectly as long as it holds its zero.
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That depends upon the use and/or quarry, but many times you're right. IMO a fraction of an inch is acceptable for a hunting scope, but several inches is not. Of course every scope won't be the same, so I don't doubt that there are some good ones out there.

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That depends upon the use and/or quarry, but many times you're right. IMO a fraction of an inch is acceptable for a hunting scope, but several inches is not. Of course every scope won't be the same, so I don't doubt that there are some good ones out there.
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Guess I didn't say what I implied doesn't apply to turret twisters, but most people twisting turrets aren't looking a scopes costing 200.00 or less.

I've been hunting for about 25 years and I'm just getting into a few scopes with turrets. First one is a Kahles with their multi turret and today just received a Leupold VX3 4.5-14 LR (30mm). It'll be on it's way to Leupold for their CDS turrets sometime in the near future. Both scopes are in a different class than what's being discussed.
 
First one is a Kahles with their multi turret and today just received a Leupold VX3 4.5-14 LR (30mm).
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Sorry to hear about your infliction...you can't go with a Redfield now...not after buying a Kahles. Nothing compares to Kahles glass save for even more costly Zeiss Victory, Swarovski Z6, Premier Reticles, Schmidt & Bender, and Hensoldt.

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Well, I may have found a cheaper source for the rifle. Guess the only thing to do is wait.
 
I thought I'd report back with the final word on this one and let you all know that I ended up being able to get one of the new FN model 70's in 7mm-08 with a Leupold VX-3 2.5-8x36mm on Leupold dual dovetail mounts for under $1,200 tax included.

I haven't gotten it out to the range yet, but stay tuned for a range report in the next couple of weeks. Thanks everyone for the great advice!
 
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One of the only misgivings I have about the model 70 is that none of my local shops have got one in 7-08, and the only place that will order one for me is Gander Mtn, which I've never dealt with before.
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None of your local gunshops will special order a rifle? I am amazed to hear that. Most gunshops love special orders, where you get to make a sale using the customer's money.
 
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SquegeeBob.... That is a very pretty rifle. I havent handled the new M70s yet but from the pictures they sure do look nice.
 
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None of your local gunshops will special order a rifle? I am amazed to hear that. Most gunshops love special orders, where you get to make a sale using the customer's money.
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Yup, the only local place that would order one was Gander Mountain, and they wanted about $100 more than anybody else. The locally owned places just told me to come back in a month or two and check then.
 
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