nickn10
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What would be a good mid to 400 yd range rifle for home, property and hunting that is not a semi automatic action? All I own are 9mm pistols and 22lr rifles. Thank you, Nick
Defensive rifle, not AR
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1942bull
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I agree with the Scout Rifle suggestion. You can see the options and msrps here: https://ruger.com/products/scoutRifle/models.html
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Steer Scout:
Jeff Cooper designed the perfect all around rifle for self defense, hunting, and wilderness survival.
Jeff Cooper designed the perfect all around rifle for self defense, hunting, and wilderness survival.
WestKentucky
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Marlin 336. Probably the handiest and fastest action gun I have ever used that’s not a semiauto. People give the 30-30 grief but it’s not a slouch. Next option would be a Remington pump rifle in a light caliber like 223 or 243.
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One of the Ruger American rifles with the shorter barrel (the American predator I think). Significantly cheaper than the Gunsite Scout as mentioned here.
Would you consider one of the lever action rifles? The Henry Long Ranger will deal with your 400 yard range criteria and it is a removable box lever gun in a wide range of calibers. The box magazine allows for .223, .308 and other spitzer bullets.
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Remington 7615
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Awwww, I was all set to suggest a Springfield M1A, but I guess I'll jump on the Ruger GSR bandwagon. 400 yards means I'd be wanting a traditionally mounted scope, though.
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I feel like an M-249B could work here...
If not, a pump rifle will have the long reach cartridge advantage.
And their fun!
But, so are lever guns. And if one were a true rifleman, 400 yards could easily be done with a 45/70.
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Kalashnikov.
Garandimal
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1. Springfield Model 1903-A3 chambered in .30-06.
2. Swedish Mauser Model 1938 Short Rifle chambered in 6.5x55mm.
Pick'em.
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Ditto.
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If you are really wanting it for home defense, my preference would be for a pump or lever action over a bolt action. Both require much more of a gross motor movement than a fine motor one a bolt action requires.
I think a Henry Long Ranger in .243, .308, or 6.5 Creedmoor topped with a 1-6x or 1-8x scope would just about tick all of your boxes in a non-semi format. With the scope dialed all the way down, it could be usable, albeit overpowered for home defense and dialed up you should be able to reach out. If you went with 223 which is also available, it would be a better home defense option but not sure how well you'd be able to hunt out to 400 yards.
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/
I think a Henry Long Ranger in .243, .308, or 6.5 Creedmoor topped with a 1-6x or 1-8x scope would just about tick all of your boxes in a non-semi format. With the scope dialed all the way down, it could be usable, albeit overpowered for home defense and dialed up you should be able to reach out. If you went with 223 which is also available, it would be a better home defense option but not sure how well you'd be able to hunt out to 400 yards.
https://www.henryusa.com/rifles/the-long-ranger/
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Henry long ranger or savage 99 would meet all of your requirements. 760 game master and other pump rifles would as well. A Schmidt Rubin, or any other of those straight pull rifles (Savage is about to hit the shelves with one any day now) would be easier than other standard bolt rifles as well. There is a lot out there. I don't know that any of it is cheap, but you did not ask for cheap. Pretending that you had, though, you can find savage axis rifles and others in that world for really cheap now and then. Anything more complex (internally) making a less complex operation (manually) than a typical bolt action will be more costly.
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If not being semi auto is an absolute, then a scout rifle like the Steyr, Tikka Arctic, or similar would be my choice. If those are to expensive I'd go with a bolt action carbine in a reasonable caliber.
Since semi auto was an option for me I picked the Steyr AUG with a 16" barrel.
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Since semi auto was an option for me I picked the Steyr AUG with a 16" barrel.
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Robbins290
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Ruger american. Can get them in a 16" barrel that takes detachable mags. I have a ranch that filled that role. 762x39 and has a flash hider on it.
I just wished they made those with iron sights like there scout does.
I just wished they made those with iron sights like there scout does.
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Remington Model 7600 Pump Action Carbine - 18.5" Bbl. chambered in .308.
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A short compact bolt rifle in a short action cartridge. 223 or 308 are obvious choices but any will work. The scout rifle is certainly an option, but really any compact bolt gun with irons or preferably a low powered scope will work too. A detachable magazine is a plus, but not a requirement.
Despite what we've all seen in all TV and on the silver screen cowboy movies lever guns simply aren't that much faster for repeat shots. They are heavier, slower to reload, less accurate, less reliable and the traditional guns shoot cartridges that are less potent than available in bolt guns. Pump guns suffer from most of the same negatives as levers although they are a bit faster for repeat shots.
While it is theoretically possible to shoot pumps and levers a tiny bit faster that is only true if you're shooting offhand. Exposed to return fire. Both are nearly impossible to get off repeat shots when fired from a supported position or from behind cover. That is a huge part of the reason neither pumps nor levers were ever seriously considered for military use.
Despite what we've all seen in all TV and on the silver screen cowboy movies lever guns simply aren't that much faster for repeat shots. They are heavier, slower to reload, less accurate, less reliable and the traditional guns shoot cartridges that are less potent than available in bolt guns. Pump guns suffer from most of the same negatives as levers although they are a bit faster for repeat shots.
While it is theoretically possible to shoot pumps and levers a tiny bit faster that is only true if you're shooting offhand. Exposed to return fire. Both are nearly impossible to get off repeat shots when fired from a supported position or from behind cover. That is a huge part of the reason neither pumps nor levers were ever seriously considered for military use.
When contemplating the use of a rifle for home defense, it's important to think about what else besides the target might be in the line of fire. I've kept a .22 with 25-round magazines, and a bolt-action .30.06 with a 7-round internal magazine, among other weapons. Fortunately for me and for the bad guys, I've never had to discharge a firearm at anyone. You might think about a semi auto 12 gauge shotgun with alternating 00 shot and slug loads. You might also consider a handgun. If you decide to keep a firearm, it's important to have some training in its use. Please be sure you're aware of the laws regarding the associated matters.
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Ruger American in 223, using 10- 20 round AR mags.
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Firearm selection is one thing but probably even more important is bullet selection.
In my case I live in a urban area and the AUG mentioned above is loaded with 50gr varmint cartridges. The thin jacketed bullets just fall apart when they hit literally anything and are, for me, the safest option as they penetrate less than shotgun pellets, much less than shotgun slugs, and even less than pistol bullets.
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