depressing :(

[JohnnyK]

looking at midway's website at 22lr... they used to give estimated in stock dates... now all I've seen are out of stock, no backorder unknown when more will be in stock...

then you look at listings like Blazer and you see rebate available... :banghead: I just want the ammo... I couldn't care less about a rebate... :banghead:

 

[CharlieDeltaJuliet]

It is sad... I always try to keep 5-8k rounds of .22lr on hand. I have not bought .22's since sandy hook. I used to go through 300-500 rounds a week, not counting what my wife shoots. I now only shoot my .22's every few weeks and 100 or so rounds at a time. I am down to under 4k rounds and am starting to worry. I cannot see paying $80 a brick or more but I am afraid this might be the new price for quite a while.
The last I bought were CCI Blazer bulk 525 round boxes for $14.95 and Mini-Mags for $4 a hundred... I have seen people in my area SELL the Blazers for $80+ a box.... It is sad.

 

[wgaynor]

When I see them for sale around here (at whittakers), they go for the normal price. Usual limit is one brick per person, but they usually have them in stock every 2 or 3 days.

Prices will come down. Might require some to change their shooting habits, but it will come down.

 

[RugerBob]

I was at Cabelas in Maine last week and all they allowed was a box of 100 or 2 boxes of 50 per customer in 22s.
5 box maximum of any other caliber.

 

[pat701]

A sign of the lean times

 

[PabloJ]

looking at midway's website at 22lr... they used to give estimated in stock dates... now all I've seen are out of stock, no backorder unknown when more will be in stock...

then you look at listings like Blazer and you see rebate available... :banghead: I just want the ammo... I couldn't care less about a rebate... :banghead:

When people stop hoarding ammo or buying to sell at higher price the problem will go away.

 

[Zane]

I've had CCI subsonics on backorder from Midway since July. That is well before Sandy Hook.

 

[X-Rap]

I know it's been beaten into the ground but the thought of anyone but a new shooter running out of 22lr still amazes me.
It takes so little to stock 10-20K for your personal use for pennies a day.
I recently found a couple ammo cans full bought from Cabelas that were marked 2100 for $69.00. In normal times there are still great bargains. Skip buying lunch, a movie night, or quit the Starbucks habit and just prepare a little.

 

[rdhood]

It takes so little to stock 10-20K for your personal use for pennies a day.

What a silly ( I have better adjectives here, but this is THR) comment.

At 4 "pennies a day", it would take 10k days to stock 10k rounds.

At 342 "pennies a day", it would take the better part of a year to stock 20k rounds.

Heck, at 80,000 "pennies a day", you could stock it all in one day!


But most real readings of "pennies a day" is the first, and there is no way in Hades you could stock 10-20k for "pennies a day".

 

[Batty67]

Ammunition is becoming widely available if you want to pay 2-10x the "normal" price. Of course, even when things subside the new normal will 1.5-2x what it was in early December 2012...

In addition to what I can pick up these days for reasonable prices, I plan on doing some major stocking-up when prices come down so the next time, and their will be a next time, I'll have 3-5k of 9mm, 45acp, 30 carbine, and 12-15k 22LR.

 

[x_wrench]

and their will be a next time

and a next, and a next, and a next. if ANYONE thinks this gun control thing is going to go away without a MAJOR FIGHT, they are dead wrong.

 

[KimberUltra]

As long as people are worried about the 2a being torn apart there will be ammo and gun shortages. Either that or when it finally catches up to people that they spent their kids college fund in ammo and the wife freaks out. I can imagine a little of both.

I saw some .223 rem at canbelas the other day. Signs clearly say 5 box max. People were sweeping arms across the shelf shoveling dozens and dozens of boxes into their baskets.

I counted one guy, he took 50 boxes at 10 bucks a pop. The cashier was like uuuh you can't do that

 

[Oklacoyotekiller]

Im still trying to figure out how the only ones with ammo pf any quantity are on gunbroker. Ive had people on here say there is no way a "few" people can keep the stock low but when i see a handful of sellers on gunbroker with cases of new ammo, you have to wonder. One had 10 different auctions of new cases of cci22lr. Same one had cases of 9mm and 223. How are certain people able to get cases of ammo to put on gunbroker and the rest of us struggle to find a few boxes. Sounds like some insider dealing or dealers that are actually getting ammo, but not selling on store shelves but keeping supply artificially low. Dont have a problem with anyone making a buck but come on!

 

[mdauben]

I know it's been beaten into the ground but the thought of anyone but a new shooter running out of 22lr still amazes me.

You know, I'm really get tired of being beaten over the head about how foolish I am for not stockpiling ammo. Yes, I agree I should have more ammo on hand than I do but every single time someone posts here or on any other firearms related forum about the ammo shortage, we get to multiple examples of these sorts of responses and its really getting old.

 

[pikid89]

I recently bought .22 at the Scholastic Pistol Program National Championship at Ft. Benning. Winchester gave us 1000rnd boxes for $25. So its not costing the manufacturers any more to make the ammo. Stop buying it for stupid prices, and IT WILL COME DOWN

 

[Oklacoyotekiller]

I understand mdauben. Not everyone has the money to stock up thousands of rnds even at normal prices.

 

[BADUNAME30]

Sounds like some insider dealing or dealers that are actually getting ammo, but not selling on store shelves but keeping supply artificially low.

This is EXACTLY what is happening at a local gun store here.
The owner of the store gives all his incoming inventory to a person that sells it at greedy prices on gun broker. The manager of the store told me that their dealer prices have not gone up.

 

[allaroundhunter]

What's depressing is that right now, according to gunbot, cheaper than dirt has the cheapest .22lr available.... at the great price of $0.30/round...

 

[baz]

What's depressing is that right now, according to gunbot, cheaper than dirt has the cheapest .22lr available.... at the great price of $0.30/round...

These are mostly 40 and 50 round lots, and of various specialty loads, not the more common bulk products. Sure, there are a couple of "brick" products listed -- at $150 per 500 -- but they are "match" loads, not the normal commodity products. So it will be interesting to see when the commodity products become more widely available, and what the prices will be. I think we will be lucky if the market settles out at about $20 -$25 per 500, once supply returns.

 

[X-Rap]

Not everyone can stock up on 2 yrs supply of 223, 308, 9mm, or .40 as a hedge against these panic shortages but being of the underemployed I can attest to the ability to adjust my lifestyle some and still have the things I need.
Few of us with time and ability to be sitting at a computer screen can't make a few adjustments in their families daily lives to sock away some extra.
My point isn't to be critical but more to promote a message of needed change from our instant gratification way of life to that of a more pay as you go look ahead lifestyle. Shooting and related activities are just part of it, I am making the change a way of life and it's working for me. Sorry if some are offended but in hard times we all will go without, I am just pointing out the we have a choice in the things that we will be without.

 

[BADUNAME30]

My point isn't to be critical but more to promote a message of needed change from our instant gratification way of life to that of a more pay as you go look ahead lifestyle. Shooting and related activities are just part of it, I am making the change a way of life and it's working for me. Sorry if some are offended but in hard times we all will go without, I am just pointing out the we have a choice in the things that we will be without.

Good points X-Rap. Some things just aren't as 'important' as we make them.

 

[blakeci]

Good points X-Rap. Some things just aren't as 'important' as we make them.

yup, "un-important" things like mortgage, car payment, taxes, insurance, food, baby diapers, baby food, baby clothes, medical bills, student loans, paying off credit card balances.......
you know, those "un-important" things that a 28 year old has to deal with, or maybe I should have told my wife that my hobby was more important....

plus at the time I was stuck in a crappy job...now I have a better one, but the bigger paychecks didn't start coming in until AFTER Sandy Hook.

And we weren't buying tons of fancy clothes, going to the movies, going to the bars, buying frivolous crap....none of that.

I drive a 10 year old POS car...

So tell me again about how I should of stocked up thousands and thousands and thousands of rounds to avoid a situation that may or may not have taken place that year or 5 years or 10 years down the road???

 

[mdauben]

I understand mdauben. Not everyone has the money to stock up thousands of rnds even at normal prices.

No, in my case at least I take full responsibility. I could have easily afforded to stockpile more ammo than I have so my current shortage is my own fault. I just kept putting it off and in the end I got caught without a safety net. I just wish people would stop reminding me of my own mistakes.

 

[BADUNAME30]

Take it easy blakeci. We're talkin about hobbies here. Not neccessities.

 

[X-Rap]

We have all been or will be 28. I have 3 kids that I try to help in any way I can and when they comment on their lives and upbringing many of my "lessons" come up and though they don't or haven't always followed they do have that understanding that there is another way.
My oldest probably married and had kids before he should have and there is no doubt that it has set him back but they are slowly getting out of the hole they found themselves in.
If you are 28 and have a mortgage, car payment on a 10 year old POS, student loans and credit card debt then you have made some choices that worked counter to you and your families best interest. I'm no Dave Ramsey but I know few of us have done enough to suck it up and really tighten their belts.
This is drifting off the gun topic and I don't know of your specifics so I'll just speak from experience and say that personally at my peak of personal consumption it wasn't hard to save $10 or more a day. Add up your coffee, tobacco, beer or other habits along with fast food breakfast, lunch or dinner, cable or dish, multiple phones or premium services and it's amazing how we are nickled and dimed. Personally I haven't had a car payment for 20 yrs and my house payment is lower than any rental I see in the area. Our situation don't just happen.
Minimize your lifestyle, avoid credit and save money. That's how people lived before the 1970's, back when the money you had in the bank trumped your credit score.