Deaf Smith
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Once bullets fly you will find out no one ever wished for less ammo nor smaller gun.
Like the NAA revolvers, they are last ditch weapons. Very last ditch.
Deaf
Derringer discussions?
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Once bullets fly you will find out no one ever wished for less ammo nor smaller gun.
Like the NAA revolvers, they are last ditch weapons. Very last ditch.
Deaf
il.bill
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Huh?
rcmodel
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A derringer would be the last gun in the world I would use for that!!
It might just wing you, and you would be sucking soup through a straw the rest of your life!!!
Anyway here's my Mauser.
No, it's an EIG I bought for $5.00 about 50 years ago.
It is a mouser though.
Deadly on meese with CCI rat shot!!
rc
It might just wing you, and you would be sucking soup through a straw the rest of your life!!!
Anyway here's my Mauser.
No, it's an EIG I bought for $5.00 about 50 years ago.
It is a mouser though.
Deadly on meese with CCI rat shot!!
rc
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Gordon
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I got one too RC 
rcmodel
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I'm really glad this subject came up.
My old EIG derringer was suffering from neglect in the back of the pistol display cabinet.
Almost stuck shut with old dried oil.
It will get a good going over tomorrow.
For the first time in many years!
rc
My old EIG derringer was suffering from neglect in the back of the pistol display cabinet.
Almost stuck shut with old dried oil.
It will get a good going over tomorrow.
For the first time in many years!
rc
Grumulkin
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Bond Arms and 454 Casull
My cousin-in-law shooting a Bond Arms derringer loaded with 454 Casull cartriges (not a factory recommendation). Recoil was stout but no skin was lost.
The Bond Arms derringer is very well made and would be very effective if you were VERY close but I prefer other concealed carry options.
My cousin-in-law shooting a Bond Arms derringer loaded with 454 Casull cartriges (not a factory recommendation). Recoil was stout but no skin was lost.
The Bond Arms derringer is very well made and would be very effective if you were VERY close but I prefer other concealed carry options.
Lord Teapot
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closed thing i have to one of those is a doubletap .45
i hate it lol, most painful thing to shoot that i own.
i hate it lol, most painful thing to shoot that i own.
kBob
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rc,
That is a little "QT" of an instant snake removal device. Thanks for sharing. Is that screw in the slot near the breech the extractor?
Still waiting for a .41RF Remmie I once "earned" I was about 13 and one of Dad's buddies had one. My father tried to cock it one handed and commented that one had to be a man to cock that thing. Naturally like any 13 year old boy I piped up that I could cock it one handed for sure.
Dad smirked and his buddy laughed and said, "Tell you what kid, you cock it one handed and it is yours."
He handed it over and I looked at it for a second then flipped it barrel in my palm muzzle down, gripped with last three fingers on barrel and index between the trigger and grip and pushed the hammer back with my thumb. Half a century and I am still waiting for Dad's buddy to deliver that Derringer.
-kBob
That is a little "QT" of an instant snake removal device. Thanks for sharing. Is that screw in the slot near the breech the extractor?
Still waiting for a .41RF Remmie I once "earned" I was about 13 and one of Dad's buddies had one. My father tried to cock it one handed and commented that one had to be a man to cock that thing. Naturally like any 13 year old boy I piped up that I could cock it one handed for sure.
Dad smirked and his buddy laughed and said, "Tell you what kid, you cock it one handed and it is yours."
He handed it over and I looked at it for a second then flipped it barrel in my palm muzzle down, gripped with last three fingers on barrel and index between the trigger and grip and pushed the hammer back with my thumb. Half a century and I am still waiting for Dad's buddy to deliver that Derringer.
-kBob
rcmodel
Member in memoriam
Yes, that is the extractor.
Matching screw on the other side opens it.
rc
Matching screw on the other side opens it.
rc
Monac
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Thanks for putting up the link about the Signal9 Reliant 4-barrel pistol, weregunner. I like novelty in firearms, so I would buy one, unless it was very expensive (that's why I don't have a Boberg).
Yeah that DoubleTap is NOT fun to shoot. The square design of the grip is really painful as stated. I have the rubber cover for the grip but it still hurts. I'd sell it but for the fact that they cut the MSRP roughly in half, probably due to sagging sales, and I'd lose too much on it. I've lost so much in selling stuff in a panic in the past that I won't do that anymore.
weregunner
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You're welcome. Saw that in a recent gun periodical. The COP was always unreachable for me in numbers manufactured or in price at the time.
I'm looking at this one with a great deal of curiosity. They have the right idea that maybe large bore in a flyweight gun is NOT user friendly but their ideas of what is are. I agree in principal. I'm into or near geezerhood.
Something a bit more genteel is called for here.
Monac
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I don't think you missed much besides novelty with the COP, weregunner. Back when they were still for sale, they were legendarily terrible guns. I still have an ancient issue of "Handgun Tests" (the 1980's one) or "Pistolero" that drags them over the coals.
Gordon
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had a cop for about 3 years and just tried to like it but was real glad when some one bought it because it looked so kewl. It was a crummy defense piece of the first order. If someone backed away 50 foot with a .38 snub and used the sights you would be toast and I didn't hang out at poker tables
kBob
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Didn't some out fit make .32 cal inserts for the COP for a bit? Full length rifled ones?
It always reminded me of the Sharps four barrel or about four of them as far as size goes.
Surely someone around here MUST have one of the Sharps repros if not an original. Stop holding out on us!
Briefly someone offered a HS DA on steroids in .38 Special or .357 Mag, it was huge by derringer standards......but not as big as the COP.
-kBob
It always reminded me of the Sharps four barrel or about four of them as far as size goes.
Surely someone around here MUST have one of the Sharps repros if not an original. Stop holding out on us!
Briefly someone offered a HS DA on steroids in .38 Special or .357 Mag, it was huge by derringer standards......but not as big as the COP.
-kBob
Monac
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I had one of High Standard-like 38 Special derringers. Mine was made by BJT (Bellmore-Johnson Tools) but I think later it was made by others, maybe the American Derringer Company. I think it was later offered in 9mm Parabellum as well as 38; IDK about 357 Magnum.
It was very heavy for a derringer, so it was not too bad to shoot with 38 wadcutters. (Or Remington 38 Special "Multiball", which was a thing at the time.) It was well made and functioned reliably. It was also much flatter than a COP.
But I could never figure out why someone who really needed a carry gun would chose a BJT over an S&W Airweight J-frame in 38 Special, which had 150% more ammo and and SA fire capability for less weight and a little more bulk. Also, it was hard to get a good grip on the BJT in a hurry; you had to hold it so you could pull the trigger without the thing pointing at the sky. Practice would have helped with that, I suppose, but CC wasn't legal in my state back then.
It was very heavy for a derringer, so it was not too bad to shoot with 38 wadcutters. (Or Remington 38 Special "Multiball", which was a thing at the time.) It was well made and functioned reliably. It was also much flatter than a COP.
But I could never figure out why someone who really needed a carry gun would chose a BJT over an S&W Airweight J-frame in 38 Special, which had 150% more ammo and and SA fire capability for less weight and a little more bulk. Also, it was hard to get a good grip on the BJT in a hurry; you had to hold it so you could pull the trigger without the thing pointing at the sky. Practice would have helped with that, I suppose, but CC wasn't legal in my state back then.
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weregunner
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Here's to hoping the Signal 9 version of their gun works better than the COP.
weregunner
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Lord Teapot. How do you like that Double Tap .45?
I've seen nothing but some online reviews and magazine articles but seen little from actual owners.
The reviews and articles were all positive for the most part. Never fired one.
Just kind of curious.
I've seen nothing but some online reviews and magazine articles but seen little from actual owners.
The reviews and articles were all positive for the most part. Never fired one.
Just kind of curious.
The DoubleTap Defense derringers have dropped in price dramatically, I see them going for $175~ish, cheaper if you really search.
I don't know about the quality of the Cobra derringers, but they going for $99.00 right now.
I wish someone would make a .50 cal derringer, thats like a 36 gauge shotgun, that would hold a good amount of shot
I don't know about the quality of the Cobra derringers, but they going for $99.00 right now.
I wish someone would make a .50 cal derringer, thats like a 36 gauge shotgun, that would hold a good amount of shot
The Bondhus CL380
http://www.bondhusarms.com/
The gun has changed since this original picture was released. Some neat pictures on the site.
I would think this would be the very last - last ditch firearm since it seems to take time to unfold. But it still seems very neato.
http://www.bondhusarms.com/
The gun has changed since this original picture was released. Some neat pictures on the site.
I would think this would be the very last - last ditch firearm since it seems to take time to unfold. But it still seems very neato.
I have a Bond .410/.45 Colt I carry in the desert. A shotgun in your pocket is nothing to sneeze at in snake country.
My Davis .22 mag only fires on one barrel even after a visit to the factory (the factory, Cobra, is just 15 miles from my house or I wouldn't have spent the effort). Just waiting for a gun buyback(I'd swap it for $50 walmart gift card, but there hasn't yet been a buyback in my area) so I can get rid of it; already been replaced by a NAA .22 mag mini-revolver.
My Davis .22 mag only fires on one barrel even after a visit to the factory (the factory, Cobra, is just 15 miles from my house or I wouldn't have spent the effort). Just waiting for a gun buyback(I'd swap it for $50 walmart gift card, but there hasn't yet been a buyback in my area) so I can get rid of it; already been replaced by a NAA .22 mag mini-revolver.
Lord Teapot
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it works....but it's twice the pain of an airweight .38 snub loaded with the hottest load you can buy.
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