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Detachable mag on a bolt-action: good or bad? Which rifles have them?

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Drjones, Oct 4, 2004.

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  1. 454c

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    Most bolt guns I've seen with feeding problems have a detachable mag. After noticing this I've shied away from this set up since I'm not concerned with fast loading.If you only want fast unloading look at a hinged floorplate model.
     
  2. Ogre

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    HI
    Have 2 tikka 595's (whitetails) mags are great.
    Means that I can have the mag out and the bolt back and drive in the car without breaking too many laws.

    Works even better when we are doing culling work for farmers and have alot of targets in the spotlight.
    Also means that I can have one up the spout and a full mag behind it (6 in 223) with another 5 in my pocket ready to go.

    later
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  3. Ash

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    My Savage 111C has a detachable magazine (30-06) which works nicely.

    Ash
     
  4. Langenator

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    The Schmidt-Rubin 1911 and K-31s have detachable mags, although they're designed to be loaded from chargers.

    My Browning A-bolt has a detachable mag, and I've had some issues with it. It doesnt like to feed with 3 rounds remaining in the mag. It'll work with 1, 2, or 4, but not 3. Don't know why.
     
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    my tikka has 6 round detatchable mags in 223.

    Great rifle btw.

    atek3
     
  6. Drjones

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    Though far from being a statistically significant sample, almost everyone who has replied here with experience with rifles with detachable mags has had problems with them.

    Although they are probably in the minority (no offense of course, guys, just simple statistics), the chances seem greater that I would have a problem with a detachable mag than with a rifle without one.

    That and I have been thinking and can't really come up with a situation (save for the most incredible and fanciful SHTF scenarios) where I'd need to shoot THAT many rounds through a bolt gun THAT quickly.

    I guess I'll stick with the standard mag. :)

    Thanks!
     
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    I never had problems with the Steyr Mannlicher, but they were designed for the detachable mag. The older ones have a snail configuration. My Scout has a conventional double stack config.

    in all fairness, most of the ones like Rem 700s mentioned are aftermarket conversions. I somehow get the impression of teenage boys with Honda Civics, ground effects body parts, and loud exhaust systems when I see some conversions. :D

    But you got to pay for the Steyr, usu. about 2X a Rem 700 so the quality costs.
     
  8. MrMurphy

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    The Lee-enfield is probably the most-used bolt with a detachable mag, and it was designed to load through stripper clips (through the action).


    Most modern hunting rifles with DM's do reasonably well, but a fixed mag is generally more practical. I know people who've had detachable mags suddenly detach on them midhunt..... unlike military rifles, civilian hunting rifles don't always have the best placement of mag releases. The Savage works well and you have to WANT to detach it for it to come free. I've heard the Tikka's is good too.
     
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    It always seemed to me that most rifles with box mags had shorter and steeper feedramps than those with integral magazines, and therefore were much more ammo- and follower-sensitive as a result.

    It's probably not so much that there's a hard ligature there as much as it may be a view into differing design goals - rifles without box magazines aren't being designed with uber-short receiver lengths in mind, while rifles with box magazines may be more commonly designed to also be as light/short as possible.
     
  10. Doug S

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    I think you're on to something there. I know that is how my CZ 527 Carbine was designed. Also, I've not had any feeding problems with it, although I've not shot it much (about 40 rounds).
     
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    The British Government actually went with the stripper clip design so they wouldn't have to pay as much in royalties to the magazine designer. Only one magazine per soldier as opposed to 4 or 5, plus clips were less bulky and generally faster to reload.
     
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    Although my expirience isn't with a bolt gun (Remmy 7600 in .308), there is one advantage that hasn't been presented yet. I could carry a mag with deer ammo and another with elk ammo.

    I have since sold it and got a 700 in 300 WM, but I have considered switching mine over for this same reason. I am not sure about other states, but here our seasons overlap a bit.
     
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