Dick's doubles down and hires lobbyists for gun control

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fjblair said:
most people buying guns don't care-they will buy them where it's convenient and competitive.
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Yep. While it's obvious some folks are 'up in arms' over Dicks, there are plenty more that simply don't care enough to change their habits, including myself.

Here in Houston, selection and 'options in where you purchase' are plenty. If Dicks has the best deal, (which isn't very often) that's where I go.

If someone else doesn't want to go to a particular store, for whatever reason, that's fine by me.
 
boom boom said:
Dick's doubles down--hires lobbyists to lobby for gun control.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/02...rat-gun-control-lobbyists-april-records-show/

So much for businesses are not ideological but merely responding to their customers.

It's one thing not to sell firearms, but quite another to actively try to prevent others from doing so.
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NOW they can kiss ALL my business and my dollars goodbye !!!.

And I will be donating to NYSR&PA as well as the NRA !
 
boom boom said:
I suggest that you read the full WaPO article--personally I do not care if Dicks does or does not sell any firearms but realize that he will use some of your money to lobby Congress to take away your right to own "assault weapons" or to sell without government permit to someone else.
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Bingo.
 
The two Dick';s near me are bracketed by three Academy stores, a Bass Pro and two high end gun ranges with nice attached gun stores. Plus a few WalMarts (limited guns though). Then there are Academies and LGS all around the city. So who cares!
 
They spent a lot of money opening a Dick's not far from my house, and while their corporate approach has hurt several of the local shops that specialize in things like athletic gear and equipment, I'm happy to say that it seems they've made very little impact on the local gun community - either customers or businesses. In fact, I actually feel kind of sorry for Dick's gun sales personnel. They have very few people to wait on, and look kind of bored and forlorn. The gun dept. at Dick's is definitely not a hopping place. I bought some cleaning patches there, but I think I'll buy them elsewhere from now on. Besides, no handguns, so the place is of little interest to me.
 
stchman said:
Agreed, but a lot of local gun shops in my area are severely lacking in CS as well. Gun shop employees seem to think they are doing you a favor by selling you a gun and you should be thankful that they even allow you to buy a gun from them.
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From Florida to Tennessee, I've never had trouble finding a good LGS.
 
Skgreen said:
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Yep. While it's obvious some folks are 'up in arms' over Dicks, there are plenty more that simply don't care enough to change their habits, including myself.

Here in Houston, selection and 'options in where you purchase' are plenty. If Dicks has the best deal, (which isn't very often) that's where I go.

If someone else doesn't want to go to a particular store, for whatever reason, that's fine by me.
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First they took the guns from felons and I did not speak out because I was not a felon.


Then they took the guns from those 21 and younger and I did not speak out because I was not that young.


Then they took the guns from those with mental illness and I did not speak out because I was not mentally ill.


Then they took the guns from those who opposed reasonable gun control and I did not speak out because I was not unreasonable.


Then they took the guns away from me and there was no one left to speak for me.
 
BSA1 said:
First they took the guns from felons and I did not speak out because I was not a felon.


Then they took the guns from those 21 and younger and I did not speak out because I was not that young.


Then they took the guns from those with mental illness and I did not speak out because I was not mentally ill.


Then they took the guns from those who opposed reasonable gun control and I did not speak out because I was not unreasonable.


Then they took the guns away from me and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Even if you do speak out, and speak out loud and strong, it may very well end up that way anyway due to changing times and simple majorities.

I am of the opinion America currently has (3) basic 'positions' in the matter. 'Dyed in the Wool' 2A folks, "Antifa's" and a majority of America stuck in the middle who can relate to at least parts of each of the other 2 opposing positions.

That majority leaves neither the 2A folks or the Antifa's in ~full control~(?), so each group feels compelled to woo the 'middle' to have their lifestyle/beliefs accepted. Easily understood,,,

I fear nothing will be accomplished in this matter with out something resembling 'Arbitration', and if you've been through arbitration, you know neither side gets everything it wants and you always feel 'the other side' got too much,,,.

Myself ? I honestly don't ~fear~, (worst case scenario), that all guns will eventually be outlawed as I shoot primarily as a hobby. If they are, I'll find myself another hobby and get on with life..

Folks with other attractions / intimate personal relationships with firearms will obviously feel different about that, while folks who have had or seek to avoid 'negative/tragic' involvement with firearms would be quite pleased.

NRA is having it's big pow wow in TX as we speak, while Dicks appears to be hiring lobbyists to (almost certainly) try and initiate (additional) gun control.

Each has an equal right to address the issue as they see fit. Folks who end up with a raging case of chap - ass over either groups actions are certainly not representative of the 'middle', and would therefore, purely by definition, be closer to being considered an Extremist.

At the end of the day, when you look in that mirror, you have to admit,,, The only thing constant in this world is change.

Your willingness to accept change typically decreases over the years as you withdraw into your 'comfort zone', but at any age, acceptance of / willingness to fully understand change play's a big part in you overall happiness.

My ass certainly isn't chapped. Hope everyone else can find a way to keep theirs 'chap free' as well!
 
Skgreen said:
Even if you do speak out, and speak out loud and strong, it may very well end up that way anyway due to changing times and simple majorities.

I am of the opinion America currently has (3) basic 'positions' in the matter. 'Dyed in the Wool' 2A folks, "Antifa's" and a majority of America stuck in the middle who can relate to at least parts of each of the other 2 opposing positions.

That majority leaves neither the 2A folks or the Antifa's in ~full control~(?), so each group feels compelled to woo the 'middle' to have their lifestyle/beliefs accepted. Easily understood,,,

I fear nothing will be accomplished in this matter with out something resembling 'Arbitration', and if you've been through arbitration, you know neither side gets everything it wants and you always feel 'the other side' got too much,,,.

Myself ? I honestly don't ~fear~, (worst case scenario), that all guns will eventually be outlawed as I shoot primarily as a hobby. If they are, I'll find myself another hobby and get on with life..

Folks with other attractions / intimate personal relationships with firearms will obviously feel different about that, while folks who have had or seek to avoid 'negative/tragic' involvement with firearms would be quite pleased.

NRA is having it's big pow wow in TX as we speak, while Dicks appears to be hiring lobbyists to (almost certainly) try and initiate (additional) gun control.

Each has an equal right to address the issue as they see fit. Folks who end up with a raging case of chap - ass over either groups actions are certainly not representative of the 'middle', and would therefore, purely by definition, be closer to being considered an Extremist.

At the end of the day, when you look in that mirror, you have to admit,,, The only thing constant in this world is change.

Your willingness to accept change typically decreases over the years as you withdraw into your 'comfort zone', but at any age, acceptance of / willingness to fully understand change play's a big part in you overall happiness.

My ass certainly isn't chapped. Hope everyone else can find a way to keep theirs 'chap free' as well!
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Umm, constitutional rights are beyond majorities what you are terming as privileges (a right established by ordinary law)--I have no right to eliminate your first amendment rights any more than you do mine despite whether a majority favors silencing you versus me. It is no different for the 2nd Amendment. They are natural rights that predate government and are superior to any attempt by transient majorities to terminate them.

The idea that change requires these natural rights to be terminate because a certain percentage of the populace has the feelbads and the lie is packaged well enough that average Joe goes along with it, it is still tyranny, albeit of the majority if the natural rights of the minority (if actually such) are terminated. Bad things usually happen in such countries when the government becomes a tyranny whether or not a "majority" support it.

BTW, polling indicates rising support for the 2nd Amendment among the populace since the 1960's rather than falling which is why those seeking to terminate them hide in the shadows and use subterfuge instead of open action. If the left wants to terminate these rights--let them move openly and profess what they believe--e.g. a constitutional amendment which require overwhelming consensus. Instead, many of these activists skulk in the darkness, mask their actions in administrative tyranny, delight in demonization of opponents who simply want to be left alone, and attempt to elicit allies to do by stealth what cannot be done directly. Regardless of how you feel, 2nd Amendment advocates have acted openly through the legislative system, using actual votes reflecting real voters instead of campaign contributions of fatcat donors, and boldly went to court to require government to live up to its bargain.

There is a reason that Anti-Fa types wear masks--it is to hide their ugliness of their deeds from the world. There is a reason that gun-controllers work in the shadows--it is because their true agenda if known would cause them to lose. These people are also allied with others that seek to undo every institutional barrier to exercising raw power with the result looking something like the horror show in Venezuela which by the way has very strict gun control laws and about 25,000 murders per year with a much smaller population.

It took bloody wars to create our current constitutional republic with its ensuing protection of rights. If ever lost, it will require similar actions to restore them. Thus, James Madison cautioned that these rights are paper barriers if the citizens lack virtue in defending them and it turns out a lot of people miss constitutional rights when they are gone.
 
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Dick's appears to believe that they have cemented themselves as the "go to" for sport equipment for the upper middle class. And, that said group will keep them afloat buying T-ball, Little League, Pop Warner, etc. gear for suburban sports.

Their markup on football stuff for the 8-13 y/o set would certainly suggest that. However, Academy is certainly willing to undercut them in that market. And to sell guns and ammo as well.

If that's the bed they wish to make, then they'll have to sleep in it.
 
If you have one nearby,, go to Dunham’s. they always give discounts, and if you get to know the staff , they will knock themselves out to help
 
Danoobie said:
What I wouldn't do to be a fly on the wall at their investor's meetings. "Last year, we bought AR15s, with your capitol, and cut them up into little pieces.
This year, we are pissing your capitol away, lobbying to make it hard for folks to enjoy all the other firearms we sell. NEXT year we want to use your
capitol for..."...
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Strangely, their stock price hasn't really responded to any of this nonsense so far. It's down a lot from where it was in 2017, but the post-Parkland gun nonsense seems to have had little impact on it. I'm hoping it plummets in the long run.
 
coloradokevin said:
Strangely, their stock price hasn't really responded to any of this nonsense so far. It's down a lot from where it was in 2017, but the post-Parkland gun nonsense seems to have had little impact on it. I'm hoping it plummets in the long run.
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It usually takes awhile. First, there are things that management can do to prop up profit reports--e.g. cutting personnel, moving inventory and expenses from one quarter to another, and so forth. Second, it is a lagging indicator--Walmart removed firearms from a lot of stores a few years back--then restored them in a lot of places because they found some customers did not go as frequently and did not spend as much time in the stores which means less in sales overall.

Walmart made very little money directly off of firearms sales from what I remember but it was found to be a draw to bring customers (e.g. mostly males) in who bought other things that Walmart did make good profits from like tires, fishing equipment, tools, etc. I suspect that Dick's will soon find the same thing.

Brick and mortar broad based aka department and discount stores increasingly must have something to draw customers to them as online sales continue to grow. I suspect that firearms sales (buying firearms on the internet is a pain for most casual buyers due to the paperwork and shipping) is one of those draws where the whole family goes to somewhere like Academy because it has quite a lot for the whole family to shop. Sears used its toy store and sporting goods departments as a similar draw in the day.
 
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