Sergeant Bob
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Perhaps people are looking for a Bogeyman where there is none? The post by Rusher might be a plausible explaination.
Did I mention I hate Wal-Mart's policies?
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Zundfolge
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I think Rusher (since he actually works there!) is probably closest to the truth.
The thing that kills me is how so many guys here complain about the minor annoyances of buying ammo from Walmart and because of those annoyances lump them into the same category as the VPC and Brady bunch when they are the closest thing us shooter have to a friend in big retail.
Other then national "sporting goods" stores like Galens, what other big nation wide retailer sells guns and/or ammo? Not K-Mart, not Target, not JCPenney, not Sears, not any other retailer I can think of. Do we boycott them because of it? (well, I'll admit I don't shop at K-Mart in part because they dropped their pants and bent over for Michael Moore and other antis and dropped guns).
If we want guns to not be seen as in the same category as porn and cigarettes we need them to have a presence in as many mainstream retailers as possible.
The thing that kills me is how so many guys here complain about the minor annoyances of buying ammo from Walmart and because of those annoyances lump them into the same category as the VPC and Brady bunch when they are the closest thing us shooter have to a friend in big retail.
Other then national "sporting goods" stores like Galens, what other big nation wide retailer sells guns and/or ammo? Not K-Mart, not Target, not JCPenney, not Sears, not any other retailer I can think of. Do we boycott them because of it? (well, I'll admit I don't shop at K-Mart in part because they dropped their pants and bent over for Michael Moore and other antis and dropped guns).
If we want guns to not be seen as in the same category as porn and cigarettes we need them to have a presence in as many mainstream retailers as possible.
Pilgrim
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When can we get one of these things at Wal-Mart?
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Mike Irwin
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Show me a major retailer that DOESN'T have ties to China.
Welcome to the global economy, folks!
Welcome to the global economy, folks!
Waitone
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Big difference between have products manufactured in PRC and having a relationship with the PRC as a preferential supplier.
Zundfolge
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In addition to what Mr. Irwin said, why would I want to spend money with Walmarts unionized competition?
At least if the Chinese ever attack I can shoot back. I can't shoot at the communists who run organized labor and the DNC here in the US ... and just where do you think the money you spend in Union shops like Albertson's goes? Right into the pockets of the communist unions, DNC, VPC, Brady et al.
At least if the Chinese ever attack I can shoot back. I can't shoot at the communists who run organized labor and the DNC here in the US ... and just where do you think the money you spend in Union shops like Albertson's goes? Right into the pockets of the communist unions, DNC, VPC, Brady et al.
Quintin Likely
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At the Wally World's around here, it's not a matter of when you can buy ammo, the main difficulty is actually finding a spook staffing the counter at the time.
All things equal though, unless it's the value pack shotguns shells, I don't buy ammo from them anymore. Hopefully before the end of the year, I'll be rolling my own.
All things equal though, unless it's the value pack shotguns shells, I don't buy ammo from them anymore. Hopefully before the end of the year, I'll be rolling my own.
Mike Irwin
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"Big difference between have products manufactured in PRC and having a relationship with the PRC as a preferential supplier."
Hum...
Would that be like China's "Most Favored Nation" trading status with the United States?
Hum...
Would that be like China's "Most Favored Nation" trading status with the United States?
Waitone
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Yep!
Although what we call trade this day and time is different than in the past.
Noodle this one around. The US has a $100 billion trade deficit with PRC. PRC is the only country that can jerk on North Korea's chain. You'd think our $100 billion in trade could be used to convince PRC to modify NK's behavior, but for some reason our trade imbalance is singularly ineffective in promoting US interests.
Is it possible we are part of trade treaties were we are losing control of access to our markets? Its either that or we have another example of republican spinelessness in action. Either answer suck for sovereign nations.
At the risk of contributing to a thread highjacking...
I mention this:
In the thirties we sent scrap metal to Japan. In the forties Japan sent it back - in various forms.
We, I believe, just funded the first Chinese in space - among other things.
For me, I will never forget them taking over the Long Beach Naval Station area (giving them, no doubt, a dedicated port), and being handed the "management" of the Panama Canal (with all THAT could mean).
There is in nature, a law. "Every action begets a reaction".
As far as Walmart is concerned, that door was opened for all (most?) companies to do business - cheaper? - with Washington's blessing. I suppose for many of us it is useful. For those who lost jobs, I hope they've found better fields.
Next time I'm in our Walmart, I'll ask about the "ammo hour".
-Andy
I mention this:
In the thirties we sent scrap metal to Japan. In the forties Japan sent it back - in various forms.
We, I believe, just funded the first Chinese in space - among other things.
For me, I will never forget them taking over the Long Beach Naval Station area (giving them, no doubt, a dedicated port), and being handed the "management" of the Panama Canal (with all THAT could mean).
There is in nature, a law. "Every action begets a reaction".
As far as Walmart is concerned, that door was opened for all (most?) companies to do business - cheaper? - with Washington's blessing. I suppose for many of us it is useful. For those who lost jobs, I hope they've found better fields.
Next time I'm in our Walmart, I'll ask about the "ammo hour".
-Andy
BluesBear
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Try to find something that isn't made in china nowadays. Most everyday stuff we use has some sort of chinese tie-in.
What some of you fail to realize is that's just the way the economy runs. When I was a kid everyone was badmouthing all of the Japanese junk being imported. So nothing has really changed.
It's very simple really.
If you don't want a chinese made widget, then don't buy it.
If you don't want a Norinco 97 Trench gun then don't buy it.
But remember even though it is made in China it was unloaded from the container ship by Americans.
An American truck driver and/or railroad engineer transported it across the country.
At the distributor, several Americans put it in inventory, catalogued it and then took it out of inventory again.
An American at the distributor took the order from the dealer.
An American freight/parcel driver (from an American company employing thousands of other Americans) delivered it to the dealer.
And last but not least an American dealer sold it to YOU.
Sure, somebody in china made a few bucks on it, but considering the near slave wages paid to them, very little of the purchase price actually went to anyone in china.
Many more Americans made more money on the same product than china did.
I would gladly pay a little more (not a lot but a little) for a US made Win97 replica but guess what? I CAN'T!
Of course Wal-Mart sells a lot of chinese stuff. They also sell a lot of American made crap too. Remember your beloved Win-White-Box is mostly an American product.
The fact is, Wal-Mart is the largest single employer in America!
More people depend on Wal-Mart to put food on their table than any other company in the WORLD!
Wal-Mart is the only large chainstore that is even remotely still pro-gun and that is the very reason we sould still buy from them. Let k-mart with their Rosie O'Doughnut loving board of defectors fall into the swamp.
I buy my cheap practice ammo at Wal-Mart. That leaves me enough money left over to be able to AFFORD Gold-Dots and Hydra-Shoks (and even GUNS!) from my local gunshops.
As my dear departed mamma used to say "Don't cut off your nose just to spite your face."
As for buying ammo "after hours" at Wally World.
My suggestion would be to do just what I did about buying Deli Products at my local big-name-grocery.
I found out who the regular night shift people were and made friends with them. Now, if I want 2 pounds of shaved ham at midnight, I know who to ask for and I can get it, even though the deli is "closed".
Just my tuppence.
What some of you fail to realize is that's just the way the economy runs. When I was a kid everyone was badmouthing all of the Japanese junk being imported. So nothing has really changed.
It's very simple really.
If you don't want a chinese made widget, then don't buy it.
If you don't want a Norinco 97 Trench gun then don't buy it.
But remember even though it is made in China it was unloaded from the container ship by Americans.
An American truck driver and/or railroad engineer transported it across the country.
At the distributor, several Americans put it in inventory, catalogued it and then took it out of inventory again.
An American at the distributor took the order from the dealer.
An American freight/parcel driver (from an American company employing thousands of other Americans) delivered it to the dealer.
And last but not least an American dealer sold it to YOU.
Sure, somebody in china made a few bucks on it, but considering the near slave wages paid to them, very little of the purchase price actually went to anyone in china.
Many more Americans made more money on the same product than china did.
I would gladly pay a little more (not a lot but a little) for a US made Win97 replica but guess what? I CAN'T!
Of course Wal-Mart sells a lot of chinese stuff. They also sell a lot of American made crap too. Remember your beloved Win-White-Box is mostly an American product.
The fact is, Wal-Mart is the largest single employer in America!
More people depend on Wal-Mart to put food on their table than any other company in the WORLD!
Wal-Mart is the only large chainstore that is even remotely still pro-gun and that is the very reason we sould still buy from them. Let k-mart with their Rosie O'Doughnut loving board of defectors fall into the swamp.
I buy my cheap practice ammo at Wal-Mart. That leaves me enough money left over to be able to AFFORD Gold-Dots and Hydra-Shoks (and even GUNS!) from my local gunshops.
As my dear departed mamma used to say "Don't cut off your nose just to spite your face."
As for buying ammo "after hours" at Wally World.
My suggestion would be to do just what I did about buying Deli Products at my local big-name-grocery.
I found out who the regular night shift people were and made friends with them. Now, if I want 2 pounds of shaved ham at midnight, I know who to ask for and I can get it, even though the deli is "closed".
Just my tuppence.
ChickenHawk
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Well said, BluesBear!
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Hot brass
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At my local Wol-Mokt, ammo sales are halted at 21:00.
Zach S
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I think they stop selling at 22:00 here in Asheville, and start again at 7:00. Not sure though, I work from 22:00 to 6:30 and wally world is about 45 mins away from there.
ysr_racer
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Easy fix, shop somewhere else.
alan
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Wal-Mart "contractors" hire, without knowledge of Wal-Mart, ILLEGAL ALIENS.
If you believe the bit about Wal-Mart not knowing, then please send me your e-mail address, so that I can let you know when I hold my next bridge auction.
If you believe the bit about Wal-Mart not knowing, then please send me your e-mail address, so that I can let you know when I hold my next bridge auction.
Stevie-Ray
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We stopped at the local Wally World to pick up some white box value-paks of 9mm on the way to the range the other day. As I was about to pay for mine, the woman asked, "Is this for a handgun?" I leaned close to her and said "Yes" with an evil grin. My buddy did the same. Strange policies there, I agree, but good prices none the less. Saving about 4 bucks a box over the range.
Detritus
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I live in texas, i've bout ammo at all hours. i get teh impression too many folks would get pissy if the ammo sales ended after a certain time... now as was noted earlier finding a floor-critter witha key at times like that is kinda iffy.
as for buying from them, on .22 and 12ga non-specialty (ie everything i'll ever need, EXCEPT Win featherlites) bulk ammo i can't find a better price. and when i went price shopping last month, I found they beat the bejeezus out of just about everyone else out there on the Savage i have planned as my next purchase.
as for buying from them, on .22 and 12ga non-specialty (ie everything i'll ever need, EXCEPT Win featherlites) bulk ammo i can't find a better price. and when i went price shopping last month, I found they beat the bejeezus out of just about everyone else out there on the Savage i have planned as my next purchase.
Zach S
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I dont buy 9 anymore, but I used to say SMG.
twoblink
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At least the walmart there sells ammo..
The PRK walmarts have all been spayed and neutered..
The PRK walmarts have all been spayed and neutered..
ysr_racer
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Not true. I buy handgun and shotgun ammo all the time at local WalMarts here in So. Cal.
I think they have stopped sell guns however.
Dorrin79
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hmm - I've bought ammo at WalMarts in the Austin area as late as 2 AM.
Had to find the manager to get the keys, of course, but other than that no problems.
Had to find the manager to get the keys, of course, but other than that no problems.
Mike Irwin
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Alan,
It's not Wal Mart's responsibility to vet the employees that its contractors hire.
It's the contractor's responsibility.
The same at the company I work for.
When we sub part of a contract out, it's the responsibility of the sub to check the educational and professional backgrounds of the people they send to us -- not ours.
If it later turns out that the person's credentials are hinky, the sub can be held to some pretty nasty penalties.
It's not Wal Mart's responsibility to vet the employees that its contractors hire.
It's the contractor's responsibility.
The same at the company I work for.
When we sub part of a contract out, it's the responsibility of the sub to check the educational and professional backgrounds of the people they send to us -- not ours.
If it later turns out that the person's credentials are hinky, the sub can be held to some pretty nasty penalties.
TonyB
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1)I like Wal-mart...although I don't agree with all of their methods and standards
2)At least they're still selling ammo and guns(unlike k-mart and Target)
3)I'll buy cheap ammo anywhere.......lots of times gun shops over price their ammo......
4)if we stopped shopping where they sold foreign goods or hired illegals we'd all live on farms and sew our own clothes........maybe that's not such a bad idea.................................
2)At least they're still selling ammo and guns(unlike k-mart and Target)
3)I'll buy cheap ammo anywhere.......lots of times gun shops over price their ammo......
4)if we stopped shopping where they sold foreign goods or hired illegals we'd all live on farms and sew our own clothes........maybe that's not such a bad idea.................................
Cosmoline
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It never ceases to amaze me. I hear constant complaints about Wal Mart, both re. their ammo policy and other matters. I've even heard that they inspect customer bags on the way out! Yet the second anyone suggest that we should all simply stop shopping there, I'm called a communist!
FOr the record, you do not have to reject the 20th century if you want to buy ammunition and firearms from someplace other than Wally world. You just have to go to that strage little place owned by local people called "a gun store." Remember that? Hopefully you still have yours. Better go there while you still can.
Otherwise, your RKBA is only one manager's decision away from destruction. If you rely on Wal-Mart to supply your firearms and ammo, you're trusting satan to keep you supplied with Bibles. Don't fall for it.
STOP
SHOPPING
AT
WAL-MART!
FOr the record, you do not have to reject the 20th century if you want to buy ammunition and firearms from someplace other than Wally world. You just have to go to that strage little place owned by local people called "a gun store." Remember that? Hopefully you still have yours. Better go there while you still can.
Otherwise, your RKBA is only one manager's decision away from destruction. If you rely on Wal-Mart to supply your firearms and ammo, you're trusting satan to keep you supplied with Bibles. Don't fall for it.
STOP
SHOPPING
AT
WAL-MART!
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