Did three CCW renewals and exploding Bryco

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Today, I did three CCW renewals and saw some interesting stuff.

In Arkansas, permits are good for four years and then you must renew by visiting a licensed instructor and demonstrating safe gun handling and proficiency in hitting a target.

First pair was a married couple--both into black powder competition.

They displayed a mindset I've found common amongst gun enthusiasts around here in the Ozark Mountains.

They pour thousands of dollars into their reproduction and original black powder competition guns.

The guns they trust their lives to every single day as CCW pieces???? Bryco .380 automatics.

Same thing with local deer hunters. Lots of them pour obscene amounts into a .300 Win mag with finest optics, trigger jobs, Shilen barrels, etc. They shoot those rifles maybe 25 times a year, sighting in and hunting combined.

For CCW, they get the greasiest, cheapest, lousiest handgun they can buy from somebody dealing out of an old van in an alley.

Anway, one of the Brycos didn't survive qualification as the CHAMBER CRACKED IN HALF!!!!!!!!! Thank goodness it was only in a .380.

Third renewal was a local Espicopal minister.

Don't mess with that minister. He was an oustanding shot with his Star 9mm. The Star is his truck gun, and he carries a Kahr 9mm on his person.

In fact, when I found out that he and another guy practice the Tueller Drill with plastic training guns and rubber knives with the county sheriff (who is an old buddy of their's from way back) I started asking him for tips and advice about my renewal training program.

He also hosts weekly Bible study classes at his church which always end with a prayer and a trip to the local range afterwards. Sounds like maybe I need to go to his Bible studies in the future.

Great afternoon, met some new folks, and I made some more gun cash.

The married couple are going shopping for new CCW pieces tomorrow. I gave them some suggestions.

hillbilly
 
I'm near Rudy, about 18 miles north of Fort Smith, in Crawford County.

We are about 3 hours driving time apart from each other.

hillbilly
 
I'm not from Moutain Home, but I spend alot of time there. Norfork River has some of the best trout fishing waters in the south. Probably my favorite part of the country.


Oh yeah, and Bryco's are no good.:D
 
I majored in kayaking when I went to college in Batesville. I sure miss the Eleven Point river.

I saw a guy last week who traded out of a perfectly good Taurus 99 with a defective magazine and finish wear plus some cash into a Bryco. Some folks just don't get it...

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
I live on Lick Fork Creek, about 10 miles south of Mountain View, in the triangle formed by highways 9, 66 and 263. Right smack in the middle of some of the best hunting and fishing country in the world, and only a couple of hours from some of the best duck and geese hunting.

And there are lots of riding and biking trails, canoe rivers, you name it.:D
 
hillbilly,

I'm a CCW instructor in Arizona and have noticed some of the same thing you have. The variation on that the offends me the most is the guy who shows up with his (insert name of custom gunsmith) 38 Super/40 S&W race gun or even a highly customized 45 ACP for concealed carry, and his wife has an out of the box Taurus 85 or a Bersa 380 he bought used at a gunshow. Even worse are the wives who show up with some kind of 25 Auto, which often doesn't make it through the 15 shot course of fire.

Kind of tells you how important those ladies are to their husbands.
 
Hey Vern, I sent you a private message regarding the deer hunting.

You like to do any big river catfishing?

hillbilly
 
Dave T--while I have not yet encountered the situation you speak of in the classroom, I do know several guys who have done what you described as far a wives' CCW guns.

Shoot, one of them was a dearly departed relative of mine.

Had all kinds of whiz bang expensive guns for all sorts of hunting or competition purposes.

What did he buy his wife and adult daughter for self defense? Jennings in .25 auto and some sort of pot metal .38 special revolver that you had to remove the cylinder pin and cylinder to reload.....paid $75 for it, I think.

The horror, the horror........

I had one military vet show up with a Hi-Point 9 mm that the slide literally fell off of during his qualification shoot.

I let him finish with my Browning Hi-Power, and told him to go find something better to bet his life on.

hillbilly
 
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Hillbilly:

I didn't get the email -- we have a smart guy who's trying to install an AI spam blocker on the server, and that may have blocked it. Try again.

I like catfishing, but don't have much time now that I'm running for Congress (First District.)
 
The variation on that the offends me the most is the guy who shows up with his (insert name of custom gunsmith) 38 Super/40 S&W race gun or even a highly customized 45 ACP for concealed carry, and his wife has an out of the box Taurus 85 or a Bersa 380 he bought used at a gunshow. Even worse are the wives who show up with some kind of 25 Auto, which often doesn't make it through the 15 shot course of fire.

A Taurus 85 isn't that bad of a handgun. They're decent .38 Special revolvers that are light years ahead of a Bryco .380 or RG potmetal revolver in quality and reliability.

I've heard good things about the Bersa .380's as well.

Of course, .380 is the minimum caliber I'd go with for self-defense for my wife if I were married.

I carry either a Glock 19, Smith Centennial, or a Taurus PT-22 depending upon the situation, but it's my life I'm betting on when I carry the PT-22, not my spouse's.

Good self defense handguns aren't always $500 and up.
 
Well, not to be a smart aleck, but I carry a Glock 22 and my wife has a Rossi 971 .357. Think I don't care about my wife? you'd be wrong. She prefers a revolver, and this Rossi shoots as well as any I have ever had. In fact, she shoots it BETTER than a Bereta 96 I just tradedin for the Glock! She doesn't like autos, or the lighter single action trigger. She prefers the double action mode. Now, I have noticed the phenomanon y'all have mentioned to the extreme! I help out a lot in my friends gun store and see it all the time! The guy wants a Glock, or a 1911, but he wants to buy a Bryco or Jennings for the wife. I always recomend the same for a Lady that isn't familiar with firearms. A GOOD revolver in .357, loaded with .38s for practice and .38 +Ps or .357s for defence. But a lot or #@%& heads go cheap on the wife or girlfriend. A few months back a man an wife were in with their daughter. She was about 20, about to be 21, and needed a pistol for self defence. Did he buy the good Tarus .38 we had? No, he bought the .25 Tarus that was a little cheaper. They wouldn't even look at the revolvers!
 
I own(ed) a Taurus 85 that I believe my ex may still be in posession of. It was a nice little snubbie. Despite my love for BHP's and Sigs, I wouldn't feel unarmed with one. Sometimes cheap is good and at the time it was a much better Smith than Smith was making.

At least it wasn't zinc.

Regards,
Rabbit.
 
I remember when I was a kid, my Dad bought my Mom a Beretta .25 auto and told her that if she ever needed to use it, to empty the mag. His reasoning was that she was to small of a woman to handle anything bigger. But then again, his SD pistol was a High Standard .22, so it wan't like he was skimping on her to spend on him.

Years later, there was a coyote trying to break through her window in the middle of the night to eat the cat. Mom grabbed her 25 and accidently sent a round into the carpet. The noise scared off the coyote, but on further inspection of the carpet, we found the spent bullet had not even penetrated through. This was even cheap carpet:eek:

Next day I took her to the gunstore and she traded that Beretta in for a Taurus 85. Best little revolver that I have shot so far. They may be inexpensive, but they are well made.
 
We have some friends at our church, the husband owns and carries a Beretta 92, and his wife has a little cheapo davis or lorcin.

We were talking about how we should go shooting together when his wife spoke up excitedly saying, "XXXXX bought me a Davis/Lorcin .380 for my home defense, maybe I should bring it out and actually shoot it". :what: She had yet to put a single round of ammo through it.

As for me, I currently carry a Bersa .380, and am switching to a XD subcompact in 9mm. My wife shoots the Bersa well, and it is a good firearm that I have trusted with my life, so I am going to try to keep it around in case she needs it. I keep a 12ga under the bed that she can use, but its a little heavy for her, and I know that it probably kicks too much.

At one point she was intrested in purchasing a pistol, but she has no intention of doing so anymore :( . I am thinking of saving up a couple hundred so I can get her a Sub-2000 or something easy for her to shoot in 9mm or up.

Ofcourse, our best home defense assest is our German Shepard Dog who has become quite protective of my wife. :D

I.G.B.
 
I have often posited that you need to carry a hammer as a backup to the .25 auto in order to perform a follow-up hit on the bullet to ensure penetration. When I was young I tried shooting beer bottles with one and they would seldom break. Not a ringing endorsement.
 
Actually, carrying a roofing hammer as a non-lethal option in your car is not a bad idea. They are pretty effective, especially the type with the hatchet type handle.
 
My Grandfather was a ship's pilot on the Intracoastal Waterway, mostly between Orange, Texan and Lake Charles, Louisiana. My Grandmother would often have to drive him to Orange to catch a ship, or drive there to pick him up. She carried just such a hammer on the seat -- a roofing hammer with an ax blade.

One time someone tried to open the car door while she was stopped at a light, and she whacked him with it.
 
I understand about Bryco, Jennings, RG, and a couple of cheapies out there. I heard from a lot of people about Rossi, and Taurus quaility control. Do you know what they pay workers down there? My company moved down there to Brazil, because they pay their workers $65.00 a MONTH!!! I would rather buy a Smith any day, I don't care that a former owner did a anti-gun deal. At least these workers have 20, 30 years of making guns and they are made in the USA. I do have a couple of Stars and HK's. But they are quaility guns, made with experienced workers.
I think we should imform the public on how cheaply made these guns are. Years ago, I bought a Jennings 22, and am waiting for a gun buyback from the Anti's. They can have it for $50!!!!
 
I'm not trying to start a fight, but Tarus has been making revolvers since the 1930s. Rossi has been around nearly as long. As a comparison, Ruger didn't start till 1948, Star dates from around the 1920s, I think, And I don't belive HK is any older. True, their pay sucks. But I think the cost of living is WAY lower. Brazil is going through some troubles right now on account of their economy, but I don't see as how this neccicarily affects their pride in their workmanship. I have owned about five Tarus and a couple of Rossi firearms. I have owned three Smiths. Finish might have been a bit better on the S&W, but the Taruses quality was first rate. BTW, Tarus now owns Rossi.
 
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