Die Hard 4 -- McClane's new gun

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I loved the first and third. The second one sucked because Renny Harland directed it. He just Xeroxed the first one, removed half the intelligence, and slapped it up on the screen.

As for the new one, I was fully on board until the F-35 vs. 18-wheeler fight. Just too cartoonish.

And I don't think his original gun -- the one he first pulled in Justin Long's apartment -- was a SIG. Slide shape, grip shape, seemed wrong. But I'll take another look.
 
In the previews for the movie, Bruce holds his gun upwards while looking around a corner. It had a polymer frame with a cutout and a stainless-looking recessed plate with a serial no. on it. Just like an XD.

I got excited when I thought he had an XD in it. Now that I know (think?) it's a sig i'm not nearly as stoked for the movie.
 
Whatever it is it'll slip right through airport X-ray machines and costs more than I make in a month! :p
Hopefully I'll make it out to that movie this weekend and crank up my suspension of disbelief.
 
this movie was laughably bad, though I admit I went into it with my hopes being, "It can't be worse than II, right? Right??" I suppose the instant that I saw it was a PG-13 movie I realized it couldn't be a REAL Die-Hard movie. It just didn't get gritty enough... Plus, the Mac guy as a hacker was just too much... :p

I just wanted to say to him "well if you got a PC and had fun games to play, like Command and Conquer or CounterStrike, you wouldn't have been bored enough to figure out hacking and YOU WOULDNT BE IN THIS MESS!" :D

The action sequences were just plain ridiculous, and I did enjoy seeing stuff get blown up and shot. Still, the plot was trite and the villain looked more like he should be in a Crest commercial. Save it for the $1.99 rental :)
 
Yeah, I agree it's a kind of lame movie. It's a fine flick for free on USA in 2008, but for $$ I hate to spend that kind of coin to see formulaic plots, "suspend disbelief" action sequences, break-the-laws-of-physics shots over and over again, and obvious CGI elements sprinkled throughout every shot.

If you want to shut your brain off and watch explosions, it's fine.
 
I like bruce willis movies. They always have fight scenes. And I figure they can only fake so much, so he must get clocked really good a time or three.

Other reasons to hateses the bruce: demi moore and jane march...
 
Just watched 'shooter' off the subject, and I thought that movie had a very 'good plot'. I wish I had a sniper, or I wish I was that good. I especially liked the ending. :)



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Went and saw the movie yesterday. Didn't even think of trying to id his piece. I liked it best of the Die Hard series. Loads of action and special effects. McClane gets the crap knocked out (and shot out) of himself as usual and still manages to kill and maim countless BGs.

It's a hoot!
 
I think I've got it... SIG P250

I just saw the new SIG P250 on the cover of G&A, and I think that might be it. Looks very M&P-like from the front with that light rail, but has the SIG grip.

One last comment about the movies:

The first Die Hard was a religious experience. I saw it nine times in the theater. Aside from one scene (the airshaft) I walked out of the place believing it could have actually happened. All the FX were "practical" -- done with models and little-to-zero digital (hey, it was 1988.)

By contrast, examine this last one, Live Free:

Taking out a helicopter by ramping a Crown Vic up to it?
Detonating a powerplant by reversing the flow of gas pipelines?
An F-35 moving laterally on vectored thrust? With twin cannon? Being taken out by a falling chunk of concrete? Come on! (Anybody with real knowledge want to weigh in on the plane's armament and capabilities?)
 
I'm going to throw this out there, I think it could be a sig in the beginning, but McClane switches guns halfway through and the second one could be a cz 75 compact, it also looks a little like it might be the berreta px4. It's hard to tell without the ability to stop and rewind
 
As for the new one, I was fully on board until the F-35 vs. 18-wheeler fight. Just too cartoonish.
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I have only seen the trailers, but I would have to concur. Why would we think that Hollywood would care what prop firearms Bruce uses? I bet that they have a box full, and hand him a different one each scene.
 
He lost the bereta at the end of the third movie though. If you'll recall in the final scene he used a revolver.
 
I thought DH4 was pretty good myself, just saw it this evening. The F35 scene was the only thing I found lame. Of course the hacker stuff is hammed up but I was entertained overall. The gunfights were fun I thought (DH3 was lacking in the gunplay department).
 
"What is up with using the actor from the Apple commercials as a side kick for Bruce? I seriously dislike those ads."

really? those are the few ads i like. quite funny.
 
As far as I could see he had one of the classic Sigs (226/220 etc.) at the beginning. He picked up a Px4 later. Apart from that the movie was like an H&K ad:D They even had an Mp-7.
 
It was clearly one of the newer plastic "wonder nines", either the Walther P99, Beretta PX4 or the M&P, at least in a couple shots. The trailer itself shows him with what appears to me to be either a Sig or HK as well. And there are some shots where I can't even come close to telling what it is - and it's not one of the above. Beretta M9? Lady Smith? What the duce?

That said, I've not seen it yet (hell, I don't watch TV and just realized it was already out - and I'd been waiting with anticipation to see a trailer!), but having watched the trailer I'm not so sure I'm going to be pleased. It'll probably be a very good action film, I have no doubt in that. But from the little I've seen, I've got a couple questions and concerns:

1) What happened to John McClain, the self-loathing, smart-talking nobody underdog?
2) I'm not sure I like all the Matrix-like special effects, at least for this film. The first Die Hard was awesome because it, theoretically, could happen, and got by largely on the strength of the characters/actors and good writing. It might be something you'd hear about on the evening news. Even Die Hard 2 and 3 were tenable. I'm wondering if The Last Boy Scout might not be a better inclusion into the trilogy than this one.
 
As far as I could see he had one of the classic Sigs (226/220 etc.) at the beginning. He picked up a Px4 later. Apart from that the movie was like an H&K ad They even had an Mp-7.
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Jesus, that's what that thing was - an MP-7! :p I wouldn't be surprised as if John McClain has been taking pointers from Jack Bauer, who apparently based much of his badassness and career vision on the escapades of John McClain. Hmm...

As for the Hollywood types just handing the actor a prop gun? Nuh uh. Films like this have "hollywood armorers", and they deal in movie guns exclusively. It's probably whatever the film armorer wanted to use, not "grab bag" but more along the lines of, "I like the way this gun looks, use it" - quite the divergence from the relative realistic nature in which McClaine has an M9 in the first several - as you'd expect for a cop!
 
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