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Difference between AOW and zip gun?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Gingerbreadman, Jan 22, 2008.

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  1. Gingerbreadman

    Gingerbreadman Member

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    Is there a difference between certain AOW's (pen gun, for example) and a zip gun? (Thinking NFA here)
     
  2. taliv

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    10 years?
     
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    Nope. If it does not look like a conventional firearm, it is an AOW.
     
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    Aren't homebuilt firearms not intended for resale (zip guns) not subject to classification or tax?
     
  5. M2 Carbine

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    Zip guns are what we made when I was a young teen.

    Pen guns, etc, are more or less decent factory quality guns.
     
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    When you are haggling, it's "just a zip gun" and when you sell it, it's an "AOW," maybe? Like the distinction between fiddle and violin. ;)
     
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    Nope. They are still subject to NFA specifications. To make an NFA firearm, even from scratch, you need to get a FORM 1 approval first.
     
  8. Zoogster

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    Considering some gun manufacturers have little more than a room with some hand tools, lathes, and drill presses, items little different than you find in some garages, what exactly is "factory quality"?

    It is entirely subjective.

    The main difference is craftmanship. Are you supporting superficial laws based on appearances?
    That is little different than some firearms being called "assault weapons" that have cosmetic differences, and others being called "sporting arms" or some other nonsense.

    If it chambers a round, fires, and does not unintentionaly subject anyone not targeted to harm it is a firearm to me.

    Many single shot .22 pen guns are little more than a steel pen with a mechanism that hits the rim. The mechanisms are extremely simple and could be made by someone with hand tools in a short time.

    The "zip gun" legal terminology was done by some well meaning ( I will assume) but naive people.

    Many firearms of the past were made with "gun metal". Gun metal is a bronze of less strength than most unhardened steels of equal thickness.

    The laws on zip guns should have been better thought out and included criteria for what is and what is not a zip gun. As it stands now it is essentialy the "saturday night special" law of personaly built firearms.
     
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