DM Rifle Plan

[Maverick223]

I think a nice lightweight, compact, 2-10x optic with a relatively small objective (40-44mm) would be ideal. I would bump it back to 30mm tube for weight though (should still have adequate adjustment for moderate range engagements).

 

[pdd614]

with great glass you don't really need a large objective. i think a 30mm objective would be more than adequate, and probably shave some weight too.

 

[Maverick223]

I agree...but I consider a 72mm a large objective...40 or 44mm would suit me just fine, and gather a good bit more light at 10x. 36mm would probably be large enough, but I think I would find myself wanting a bit more with only 30mm.

 

[LoneRider]

I'd say the ACOG while it isn't an SPR scope still has good magnification for 600 meter and at times even 800 meter targets and also has good carbine value. When I was in Iraq two guys from our battalion sniper section were going on about their modified rack grade M4s sporting ACOGs, heavy barrels, and match grade triggers and their great accuracy out to 800 meters.

That series of war stories put the ACOG as one of the optics I might put on my soon to be modified stock varmint rifle that will become a Designated Marksman Rifle type weapon in time.

So for SPR operations I assume the larger mag scopes are desired because of the extreme ranges (for a 5.56 mm round) of engagement?

I've also heard good things about the Night Force scopes as well. A recent 3-Gun shooter who wrote a review on the AK-47 for the Guns and Ammo Special Edition issue stated that his own AR was topped with a Night Force.

Also I assume these SPR optics are quite sturdy as well?

 

[otrman]

now if i could only find my perfect type III scope. 9-10 inches total length. 10x top power. small capped windage knob. 8-10 mil elevation knob with zero stop. and ffp illuminated mil reticle

pdd614, check out the Nightforce 2.5x10x NSX Compact. Except for ffp it is very close to your specs. A friend has one on his DMR, WOA DMR upper Spikes lower, and it groups 1/2" at 100 yds. and has no problems hitting 5" square steel plates at 400 yds. Although it has a small obj. I can't see any difference in brightness between it and my NF 3.5x15x50.

 

[Zak Smith]

Whether or not an ACOG is "good for" 600 yards will depend on the target size and your expectations for first/second round hits. For huge E-tyle military silhouettes, you can get away with a lot. For smaller, 12-14" targets, you might not. Also, just saying that someone has made hits at a certain distance with a combination does not make it a great choice. I've hit approx 14x18" steel at 700 with my 12" SBR with a TA11 on top: doable yes; great choice heck no.

 

[pdd614]

otrman, I realize the nsx is very close to my specs, but the sfp is a real deal breaker for me. I find sfp scopes to be nothing but frustrating, because I never dial windage. The wind is constantly changing, and I don't want to try to keep up with it by dialing.
With the ffp scope I simply use holdoff, and I don't have to worry if I'm on max power or not. Call me spoiled I guess.

 

[P.B.Walsh]

Yea, I wish NF would use FFP in all of thier scopes..

 

[Maverick223]

Yea, I wish NF would use FFP in all of thier scopes..

$$$, but hopefuly the new PRH will fit the bill.

 

[pdd614]

you and me both P.B.

 

[Maverick223]

It would be nice to have FFP as an option on all of there optics...but having it standard would drive the cost up considerably.

 

[LoneRider]

I guess I should realize that the person talking to me was a sniper. A shooter of great skill. I typically qual expert or sharpshooter on our ranges so I'd say I'm an above average shooter.

I'm hoping for first round hits between 400-600 meters on man sized targets at those ranges.

I've also heard of 4x ACOGs as well from Trijicon. What are your thoughts on those higher resolution ACOGs.