Solicitation for new semi-auto sniper rifle

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I can put 1000 rounds through my M1a without cleaning it. Do that with an AR and see what happens.

Already have and my experience mirrors Zak's. The M14 has better reliability than the AR is some specific environments; but it also suffers from lack of readily available parts, readily available armorers, and institutional knowledge base. Start complicating matters further by adding in rifles with tolerances more suited to matches (M21) and it becomes a difficult system to maintain.

I've heard some buzz that Mike Rock has done some pretty phenomenal things with the system though and updated a lot of the basic structure of the M14. Haven't yet had the chance to see one firsthand though.
 
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The army is currently issueing suppressed SR25's in Iraq, so I'd venture to guess this is what they'll be leaning to when they need to make a final decision.
 
Looks like the AR-10/SR-25 might finally come of age as a military issue weapon.

As far as reliability goes, I know of several ARs that have chugged through plenty of rounds without cleaning. Actually, I know of one that had to be kicked open to use it at the range once. The AR reputation for unreliablity is overblown IMO, and I used to be one of the AR-15 bashers. All it took was working with a quality example to change my mind.

FWIW, I have seen (as a percentage of the number of the type of rifles on the line) more issues with M-1/M14 based systems than AR-based systems at Highpower matches. Op-rods can and will jump at the most inopportune time, and it can be time consuming getting it back into action.
 
Off the cuff, I'd say go with a heavy-barreled version of the AR-10. There's no new design work needed and there are several manufacturers, so Uncle (i.e. all of us taxpayers) will have the advantage of competition to lower the price. However, sometimes it pays to think about solutions to a problem with a clean (or cleaner) piece of paper. Toward that end...

Does anyone know how accurate the XM8 system is? If it is accurate enough in 5.56 mm out to 600 yards or so with the longer barrels, then adapting it to shoot 7.62x51 shouldn't be too difficult - it is supposed to be a modular system. The rifle uses an op rod instead of a gas tube, so there will be no fouling problems (I think that I saw somewhere that it has run for 15,000 rounds without cleaning and without any jams).

Further "clean sheet of paper" thinking leads one to a round firing a 6.5mm bullet. These have about the highest BC's out there, and I know that ballistics data for the 6.5 Grendel round show that it retains more energy to dump into a target than a 147 grain .308 out past about 500 yards (and about 95% of the M118's energy at that range). Take a look at the article at http://www.65grendel.com/ dealing with using the 6.5 Grendel in the M249 as a LMG cartridge. Also, with the high sectional density of the 6.5mm bullets vs. just about anything else, it makes a good round for penetrating cover (which is certainly needed on the battlefield, as opposed to punching holes in paper targets at the range).

Here are a couple more interesting articles discussing the 6.5 Grendel:

http://www.65grendel.com/faq.htm Check out the ballistics chart there (it is a downloadable .pdf), which shows that the 6.5 Grendel stays supersonic out to at least 1,000 meters in all of the 108, 123 or 147 grain loadings tested, while the M118 is only supersonic to 950 meters. You want your bullets to stay supersonic up to the target, as coming back below the barrier disturbs the flight path (i.e. it degrades accuracy, not a good thing when shooting at someone who can shoot back).

http://www.65grendel.com/art005newdevs.htm

http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=600

By the way, I'm not associated with any company or individual that makes the 6.5 Grendel rifle or ammunition. I just think it is a better round than anything out there for nearly every purpose imaginable, and if adopted for both the everyday infantryman, the designated marksmen and the sniper crowd, logistics would be enormously simplified. Further, I'd love to see the round adopted, so as to make it and the associated rifles/uppers cheaper for us in the general public to obtain.
 
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What? Not a single suggestion for a FAL variant? Reliable, world combat proven, and would even have some mag compatiblity with some other NATO nations..
 
What? Not a single suggestion for a FAL variant? Reliable, world combat proven, and would even have some mag compatiblity with some other NATO nations..
The spec is for a "precision" rifle. The FAL is the wrong platform for that.
 
Fals can be pretty darn precise. Aside from the crazy things people are building in the US today, FN built some amazing 50.00 "sniper" variants back in the day. No idea how they got the trigger to where they did.


This whole need, for company-level or better organic snipers is not at all new. Very WW2. But we like to forget things and have to rediscover them at the last moment.


I am all for a larger caliber, but to speed fielding, what about just upping the percentage of M16-based DMRs? We are buying enough ACOGs, so just designate and arm your chosen men, train them and train the line officers to use them the right way.

"Sniper front!"
 
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