Do I need an intermediate rifle?

[tramp116]

I own several hunting rifles but the three I use the most are: 1. Savage 110 in 7mm Mag, 2. Winchester 94 (top eject) in 30-30 & 3: SMLE Mk4#1 in .303 (in military issue configuration).

Been thinking a .308 might be a better choice for medium range than the 7mm. But do I REALLY need another rifle? Would it make that much of a difference?

Actually I like the .303 but try to find that in a new rifle.

 

[THE DARK KNIGHT]

You don't NEED any rifle

Sounds like your collection would be filled in nicely with a military intermediate like a 7.62x39 or a 5.56

 

[cat_IT_guy]

need it, nope. but if you want a .308, sounds like a good enough excuse

 

[bpl]

Yeah, I'd say you definitely need another rifle! A compact 308 would work, or even better, a 7mm-08. Especially if you reload, you could share bullets with the 7mm mag.

 

[litman252]

OH my!! no .25's or .260's??? I don't think you even have a start yet, yup need more


Tony

 

[TMM]

I'd venture to say that you "need" either a 7.62x39 or .30-06...or a .223 i guess....

you don't need more than one or two rifles, but you can want as many as you want.

TMM

 

[db_tanker]

a 308 would be a good one to go with, or a 7mm08. Can't forget the 243 either.

the 308 has an excellent ammo choice, the 7mm08 not as much but still good ammo out there.

the 243 can go from white tail and hog, down to p-dogs and the like.

All three can be found in many different brands of rifles. Cost is dependent on what you want to spend. Stevens and Savage, up to Kimber, Blaser or custom shop.

Good luck finding what you want.
D

 

[saturno_v]

This post makes me chuckle...I did not "need" the Rem 7600 30-06 I bought yesterday...

If i can resist to the temptation to buy, my colletion is almost done and well diversified...I only need an African rifle, an AR (I do nto onw any 223 or centerfire 22) and a 308 Assault type rifle....the last 3 to go...

 

[guntech59]

what about all these:

.17 Remington
.17 Remington Fireball (based on the wildcat .17 Mach IV)
.17-357 RG
.204 Ruger
.218 Bee
.219 Zipper
.20 Tactical
.20 VarTarg
.22 BR Remington
.22 Hornet
.22 PPC
.22 Spitfire (MMJ-5.7, 5.7mm MMJ)
.220 Russian
.220 Swift
.221 Fireball
.22-250 Remington (.22-250 Ackley Improved)
.22/30 (T65 Duplex)
.221 Remington Fireball
.222 Remington
.222 Remington Magnum
.223 Remington (.223 AI)
.223 WSSM
.224 Weatherby Magnum
.225 Winchester
.240 Weatherby Magnum
.243 Winchester (.243 AI)
.243 WSSM
.244 H&H Magnum
.244 Remington (6 mm Remington)
.250-3000 Savage
.256 Winchester Magnum
.256 Newton
.25-06 Remington
.25-20 Winchester
.25-35 Winchester (6.5 x 52R)
.25 Remington
.25 WSSM
.257 Roberts (.257 Roberts +P, .257 Roberts Ackley Improved)
.257 Weatherby Magnum
.260 Remington
.264 Winchester Magnum
.270 Weatherby Magnum
.270 Winchester
.270 Winchester Short Magnum
.270 Sabi
.276 Pedersen
.280 British
.280 Remington (a.k.a.7 mm Express Remington)
.280 Ross (a.k.a.280 Rimless Nitro Express)
.284 Winchester
.30 Carbine
.30 Newton
.30 Remington
.30 Remington AR
.30 TC
.30-30 Winchester
.30-06 Springfield
.30-40 Krag (.30 Army)
.30-378 Weatherby Magnum
.300 H&H Magnum
.300 Remington SA Ultra Mag
.300 Remington Ultra Magnum
.300 Ruger Compact Magnum
.300 Savage
.300 Weatherby Magnum
.300 Winchester Short Magnum
.300 Winchester Magnum
.303 British
.303 Savage
.307 Winchester
.308 Marlin Express
.308 Norma Magnum
.308 Winchester
.32-20 Winchester (.32 WCF, .32-20 Marlin, .32 Colt Lightning)
.32-40 Ballard
.32-40 Winchester
.32 Remington
.32 Winchester Self-Loading
.32 Winchester Special
.325 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum)
.33 Winchester (.33 WCF)
.338-378 Weatherby Magnum
.338 Federal
.338 Lapua Magnum
.338 Marlin express
.338 Remington Ultra Magnum
.338 Ruger Compact Magnum
.338 Sabi
.338 Winchester Magnum
.340 Weatherby Magnum
.348 Winchester
.35 Newton
.35 Remington
.35 Whelen
.35 Whelen Improved
.35 Winchester
.35 Winchester Self-Loading
.350 Remington Magnum
.351 Winchester Self-Loading
.356 Winchester
.358 Norma Magnum
.358 Winchester
.375 H&H Magnum
.375 Ruger
.375 Remington Ultra Magnum
.375 Weatherby Magnum
.375 Whelen (.375-06)
.375 Winchester
.376 Steyr
.378 Weatherby Magnum
.38-40 Winchester
.38-55 Winchester
.40-60 Remington
.400 H&H Magnum
.400 Tembo
.401 Winchester Self-Loading
.404 Jeffery (10.75 x 73)
.405 Winchester
.408 CheyTac
.416 Barrett
.416 Remington Magnum
.416 Rigby
.416 Weatherby Magnum
.417 (High velocity cartridge for the M82, M93, M95 and M107 Barrett Firearms Company rifles)
.43 Mauser
.44-40 Winchester
.44 Remington Magnum
.444 Marlin
.45-70 Government
.45-90 Sharps
.450 Bushmaster
.450 Marlin
.450 Rigby
.458 Express
.458 Lott
.458 Sabi
.458 SOCOM
.458 Winchester Magnum
.460 Weatherby Magnum
.465 H&H Magnum
.470 Nitro Express
.50 Browning Machine Gun
.500 Jeffery
.500 Nitro Express
.505 Gibbs
.50-110 Winchester
.50 Beowulf
.577/.500 Magnum Nitro Express
.577 Nitro-Express
.577 Tyrannosaur

From left to right: .50 BMG, 300 Win Mag, .308 Winchester, 7.62 Soviet, 5.56 NATO, .22LR[edit] Metric
4.6x30mm
5.45x39mm
5.56x30mm
5.56x45mm NATO
5.6x50mm Magnum
5.6 x 52R (.22 Savage Hi-Power)
5.6x57mm
5.6x57Rmm
5.6 x 61 SE (5.6 x 61 Vom Hofe Super Express)
5.7x28mm
5.8x42mm DBP87
6 x 35 mm
6 mm BR Remington
6 mm PPC
6 mm Musgrave
6 mm Remington (.244 Remington)
6.5 Jonson
6.5-284
6.5 mm Creedmoor
6.5 mm Grendel
6.5 mm Remington Magnum
6.5x50mm Arisaka
6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano
6.5x53mmR Mannlicher
6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer
6.5x55mm
6.5x57mm Mauser
6.5x68mm (also known as the 6.5 x 68 RWS, 6.5 x 68 Schüler or the 6.5 x 68 Von Hofe Express)
6.8 mm Remington SPC
7 mm caliber
7 mm-08 Remington
7-30 Waters
7 mm BR Remington
7 mm Express Remington (a.k.a. .280 Remington)
7 mm Remington Magnum
7 mm Remington SA Ultra Mag
7 mm Remington Ultra Magnum
7 mm STW
7 mm Weatherby Magnum
7 mm WSM (Winchester Short Magnum)
7x33mm Sako
7x57mm Mauser (.275 Rigby)
7x61mm Sharpe & Hart
7x64mm Brenneke
7.5x55mm Schmidt Rubin
7.5x57mm MAS mod. 1924 7.5x54mm MAS mod. 1929
7.62 mm caliber
7.62x25mm Tokarev
7.62x38mmR
7.62x39mm
7.62x45mm vz. 52
7.62x51mm NATO
7.62 x 54R (rimmed) (7.62 Russian)
7.63x25mm Mauser
7.62 Jonson
7.65x22mm Parabellum
7.65x53mm Argentine (7.65x53mm Mauser)
7.65x53mmR
7.63x54mm Greek Mannlicher-Schoenauer
7.7x58mm Arisaka
7.92x33mm Kurz
7.92x57mm Mauser (8 mm Mauser or 8x57 JS)
8 mm Lebel
8 mm Remington Magnum
8x50mmR
8x56mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer
8x56mmR
8x58mm RD (rimmed danish)
8x60mm S
8x64mm S
8x68mm S
9x19mm NATO (Parabellum)
9x39mm
9x45mm
9x56mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer
9x57mm Mauser
9.3x57mm
9.3x62mm
9.3x64mm Brenneke
9.3x66mm Sako
9.3x72mmD
9.3x74mmR
9.5x57mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer (.375 Rimless Nitro Express x 2-1/4")
10.75x57mm
11x60mm Mauser
[edit] Wildcats - obscure - proprietary
[edit] Inches
.14/221
.14-222
.14 Walker Hornet
.17-223
.17 Ackley Bee
.17 CCM
.17 Hornet
.17 PMC/Aguila
.17 Mach IV (now commercialized as .17 Remington Fireball)
.17 PPC
.17/23 SMC
.17-357 RG (.172" Wildcat based on the 357 SIG)
.19 Calhoon Hornet
.19 Badger
.19-223
.20 VarTarg
.20 Tactical
.219 Donaldson Wasp
.22 Cheetah
.222 Rimmed
.22/303
.22-243 Middlestead
.223 AI
.240 Apex (.240 Belted Nitro Express and .240 Magnum Flanged)
.25/303
.275 H&H Magnum
.30 USA
.30-03
.309 jdj
.30-06 JDJ
.300 Dakota
.300 ICL Grizzly
.300 Lapua Magnum
.300 Whisper
.330 Dakota
.338-06 A-Square
.338 Whisper (Series 1)
.338 Whisper (Series 2)
.338 Voschol
.338 x 57 O'Connor
.375 Dakota
.375 Whisper (Series 2)
.40-65 Winchester
.40-70 Sharps
.408 Chey Tac
.416 Barrett
.416 Taylor
.416 Whisper (Series 2)
.425 Westley Richards
.44 Henry
.45-90 Sharps
.45-110 Sharps
.45-120 Sharps
.450 Watts Magnum
.458 SOCOM
.470 Capstick
.475 OKH
.475 Ackley
.500 Phantom
[edit] Metric
4.5mm mkr
5mm Craig
5mm/35 SMc
6-06
6-284
6 mm BRX
6 mm Dasher
6 mm XC
6x45 mm
6 x 47 Swiss Match (6mm/222 Mag)
6.5-06
6.5 Grendel
6.5 x 47 Lapua
6.5 x 57
7 mm Dakota
7.82 Lazzeroni Patriot
7.82 Lazzeroni Warbird
10,4 x 38 Vetterli (US: ".41 Swiss")
10,4 x 47 Italian Vetterli


Take your pick!

 

[SwampWolf]

WOW guntech59! Welcome to The High Road.

 

[SwampWolf]

But do I REALLY need another rifle?

Nobody golfs with one club...

 

[tramp116]

Cabela's has the Marlin XL7 available in .243 Compact, .243 Win, .308, 270 Win, & .30-06. And the price is WAY under $300.

.30-06 is really more than I need around here. Deer are kinda small & a really big hog calls for the 7mm Mag. I don't know anything about the .243 Compact so I would probably got with the .243 or .270 Winchesters or the .308. I know several people who deer hunt with one these.

 

[litman252]

I would guess the .243 compact is the stock, not the caliber......


Tony

 

[tramp116]

Yes, I called about the .243 Compact. It is indeed a .243 Winchester with a compact stock. All the rest have regular full stocks.

 

[okierifleman]

I would say you need a 25-06 and a 7-08 in your collection.

 

[Redneck with a 40]

For general target shooting or p-dog hunting, a .223 is hard to beat. They are a blast to shoot and its an excellent varmint caliber. If you handload, .223 is pretty cheap to shoot too. As far as versatility goes, its tough to beat the .308.

My rifle collection consist's of an M-1 30 carbine, SKS, Ruger Mini-14, Remington 700 SPS Tactical .308 and a Marlin 22 magnum. That pretty well covers the bases for me.

 

[tramp116]

We don't have p-dogs in my neck of Texas. About the only varmints around here a rabbits & armadillo. A 22 LR handles both rather well. Feral hogs are beginning to become a big problem but given the wide range of sizes, I don't think a .223 is big enough for the larger ones.

My rifle collection, other than the ones list in my first posting, are: a Steven .22 LR semiauto, a Mannlicher Carcano, a Moisen Nagant, a M-95 Mannlicher, and a couple of blackpowder muzzle loaders.

 

[kanook]

Hey guntech59, thanks for not posting my serial numbers next to the caliber.

 

[guntech59]

That's quite a collection you got there, kanook!

 

[guntech59]

Tramp, You may not NEED another rifle but, your wants are obvious. I am a fan of the .257 and .264 bores myself.

As a serious suggestion, I would look for a rifle chambered in 6.5x55. Reasonable recoil, generally very accurate and can handle bullets from 100gr through 140gr easily (maybe up to 160 with the right twist). Anything from varmints to moose/elk.

 

[goon]

Why worry about a "new" rifle?
Sometimes I find that really old rifles are among the best!
If you like the .303, why not get another? I'd love to have an nice old No.4 some day when I can afford it.

And what is meant by "intermediate"? If you're talking military style I have no complaints about everyone having an AK/AR/SKS or something of that genre. But if you're talking about useful and just a generally good thing to have around... you already have the 30-30.