tark
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I do. Try that stunt with a blistering hot bolt carrier and see what happens to you!Does anybody else perceive this to be a potential finger safety issue when covering the vent holes?
I do. Try that stunt with a blistering hot bolt carrier and see what happens to you!Does anybody else perceive this to be a potential finger safety issue when covering the vent holes?
.... If you were the RO in the 2nd video that doesn’t stop the shooter even after the mag blows out the bottom of the rifle, you shouldn’t be an RO.
I do. Try that stunt with a blistering hot bolt carrier and see what happens to you!
One had to be there, I guess. The round did not enter the chamber fully. Hence the butt stoke. Then that specific round fired normally and the arm cycled properly.Sounds like you didn’t need it in that instance either. Whatever problem you had that required you to mortor it into the ground to get the bolt open would probably not have been solved by trying to beat the bolt shut. Had you been successful it getting it into battery you might have torn the rim off trying to get it back out, and had you been unsuccessful you might have had it so hopelessly jammed as to require removing the barrel.
Why would someone due that? If my gun is blistering hot then I am no longer worried about a quiet close. The thumb in the cover detent recess on the bolt carrier is a trick for pushing a bolt closed quietly not in the middle of a heated firefight be that against carboard or for real.I do. Try that stunt with a blistering hot bolt carrier and see what happens to you!
For a range gun it is more of a convenience thing than anything. Though the guys talking about quiet chambering for hunting make a good point.
On a fighting rifle they are definitely needed. On a new rifle you are not likely to see a problem. But if you're on a mountain top in Afghanistan, you havent been to an actual FOB in weeks, it's dusty, and your recoil spring is getting up there in age..... or you are driving around in a Humvee/MRAP/whatever for hours and your rifle has been bouncing around...... or you are in a mutli hour fire fight and you are down to using partial mags, reinforcements are still a ways away, you load up a new 1/4 full mag and when you sling the charging handle it slightly catches on your gear as it slams forward...... In those situations a light tap on the forward assist to move the bolt that last couple mm for lockup, is a great idea.
if he had noticed he had a dead trigger with the bolt carrier partially forward, that would mean the hammer had dropped, and pushing the forward assist will not help you because you will then need to cycle the bolt to reset the trigger anyway,
Alternative to the scenario you mentioned, when we have the hammer fall on an unlocked bolt, if it fails to fire, which it usually does then we do have to manually cycle to reset…
but…
In some cases (in my experience, MOST cases, unless poorly reloaded ammo is used), that failure to close, and resulting failure to fire, is caused because the extractor doesn’t clip over the rim. Which then means if you do NOT drive the FA, when you reset the action, you’ll leave a round in the chamber and cycling creates a double feed.
Out of curiosity I just went and tried on all my ARs with snaps caps. The only AR I could not snap over the rim was my 30 RAR. All my 556 guns, 300 BO, 450 Bushmaster and can-cannon, I could snap over. Interestingly the two that were the hardest of those I could do was my first AR an old Rock River and my newest AR a 5-inch 300 BO I built.I know I can’t push hard enough on the dust cover scallop in the BCG to force the extractor to clip over the rim of a cartridge. I know I CAN push hard enough on an FA button to clip the extractor onto the rim. Those two methods are NOT equal.
I do find that I like FA’s on any of my semiautos - as I mentioned here, I have FA’s on all of my personal AR’s, but I also noticed how uncomfortable I am when function testing Winchester 63’s which only have a “one way” operating rod - it pushes the action open, but is disconnected such it can’t be used to pull the bolt closed. Same discomfort I feel when using non-reciprocating side chargers - one-way opening, but no assist in closure… I’m just not a fan.
Out of curiosity I just went and tried on all my ARs with snaps caps. The only AR I could not snap over the rim was my 30 RAR. All my 556 guns, 300 BO, 450 Bushmaster and can-cannon, I could snap over. Interestingly the two that were the hardest of those I could do was my first AR an old Rock River and my newest AR a 5-inch 300 BO I built.
On one hand I don't foresee ever needing to use the FA. I've even read that many U.S. military members aren't even taught how to use the FA in basic, which tells me it's probably an unnecessary add on if they don't bother to teach about it's use. I habitually leave my ejection port closed when using it in a non-range environment, so I don't think much foreign material will make it into the action.
In the middle of excitement, calm reflection and problem analysis get short listed.
...tried on all my ARs...
...and can-cannon...
Not sure where you read that. But using the FA in Infantry school was certainly taught. Especially when it should be used vs not used. Maybe in non combat jobs the lesson is omitted, but in my training it wasn't.