Do we get what we pay for in our psitols?

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Took my NEW pistol out to put it in the bed-side drawer for the night. The left face of the muzzle was all scratched up. I figured out that must have been rubbing the copper rivets on my jeans. They were only surface scratches but very obvious and easy to see.

Please tell me if I am wrong, but shouldn't a $560 pistol withstand a little more than that before it gets marked up?

Anybody else have a problem like this?

(sorry about the spelling in my thread title)
 
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no mention of what brand the pistol is, or any details about it.

I dont think anyone expects to carry a pistol all day long and have it be mint condition at the end of the day do we?

Everything else I use daily shows wear, I cant imagine why a pistol would be excluded from that.

Dont worry about it, a little 'use marks' are a good thing.


Its a pistol not a fancy watch.
 
Good thing you did not get a more expensive pistol because odds are it would have done the same thing.
 
I didn't want it to be a bash the manufacturers thread....

no mention of what brand the pistol is, or any details about it.

I dont think anyone expects to carry a pistol all day long and have it be mint condition at the end of the day do we?

Everything else I use daily shows wear, I cant imagine why a pistol would be excluded from that.

Dont worry about it, a little 'use marks' are a good thing.


Its a pistol not a fancy watch.
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Gotcha on the watch thing. Guess maybe I AM over reaching. I just thought it should have a tougher finish........
 
If you are Looking for a YES then you have One...

Just Remember that a Rolls-Royce will show and get Scratches the Same as a Geo Metro .....
 
Finish wear is like a paint job on a car. Drive the car and you are going to get some chips some dings and some wear. It does not mean that the car was not painted properly and that you have not gotten what you have paid for.

My les baer's blue is not a tough finish. It shows scratches and it shows wear more than my Glock 19 that does not mean the Glock is a better made gun or better value for my $$$.

Scratches are going to happen.
 
those little "Rivets" on jeans also ruined my brand new leather recliner; it scratched it to heck AND it costs alot more than 560$!!!
 
When I carry with an open holster, I put a tiny piece of scotch tape over the rivets. I can't tell ya how many times I had to scrub copper dust off of my S&W 1006 or 4506 slides. Didn't actually damage them, though.
 
There is nothing sexier (handgun wise!) IMO than a 1911 full size, blued with some good ol' fashioned holster wear. :D All of my handguns that I shoot or carry often show wear. If you use it, it won't stay pristine. Kydex will eventually mar a finish. Leather or nylon will catch dirt (especially if it is humid out) and mar your finish. It happens with any holster of any material unless you live in a bubble and never get exposed to the elements. :rolleyes:

That being said, I always hate to see that first new scratch on a brand new gun. I know there will be more, but I hate it nonetheless...even if it is my cheap, lowly, aesthetically displeasing glock.:(

It's really no different with anything built to perform. If you have a street/strip car...good luck keeping those rocker panels pristine. That new set of SnapOn tools you may pick up are gorgeous, but they will wear. It happens.

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with a $5000 safe queen, but if you show a little wear on a non-collector's piece who cares? I don't...I bought mine to shoot.
 
It is most likely that the "scratches" are deposits of the softer material (the rivets) onto the harder, coarser material (your finish). Try rubbing the "scratches" with a cloth with a touch of CLP and you may be surprised to see those "scratches" disappear.
 
Here's the thing. Those "copper" rivets likely aren't copper. Copper is soft, and no longer super cheap.

On the other hand you have a barrel, which can't be made too hard, or it would not work right as a barrel.

You r mystery metal rivets may be harder than the barrel. That's physics, and no amount of "quality" in the manufacture of the firearm will fix that.
 
A carried gun will have less value at resale no matter what. It will on the other hand gain character in your eyes over time. If you want a tough finish get a CZ. My CZ-75BD Police was the first handgun I bought when I turned 21. Its 6yrs old now and has been carried a lot and shot even more. The only wear is on the slide rails which isn't visible on the gun when assembled. I don't know what the coating is buts it tough as steel.
 
That's physics, and no amount of "quality" in the manufacture of the firearm will fix that.
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Indeed. Manufacturing quality isn't magic. Anything will deteriorate when subject to the right conditions.

As to the original question - in general, I abhor the outdated "you get what you pay for" phrase. The reason being is that for manufactured goods, it's vaguely accurate at best. It attempts to set a strict ratio of cost to quality, which just doesn't exist. Sure, a $100 pistol probably will probably not work as well as a $1000 one, but there are many $400 pistols out there that work just as good as $700 ones. A lot of times mere name brand recognition causes a value to change merely based on perception - not quality.

That aside though, were are increasingly moving into a digital era where many of the things we use don't really exist in the real world. Computer software for example. You can make a physical disk to hold it, but the value in software is not in the $0.10 disc it shipped on. It's a digital pattern. I've heard the "you get what you paid for" mantra applied to software where it absolutely doesn't apply. Software cost will vary by the number of perspective buyers, and by the level of compensation desired by the programmer (some programmers write software for free just because they like to, and much of it is of very high quality). Also, Microsoft can sell Office for a few hundred dollars because they have millions of buyers. A company who makes a pretty bad, buggy piece of software meant to process veterans benefits claims might charge $100,000 for their software in comparison, when it's obviously of lower quality, merely because there is a demand, but only from a very limited number of customers.

When combined with similar situations is it applies to digital music, movies, etc, "You get what you pay for" is quickly going the way of "the world is flat".
 
maybe i'm the only one unclear on this, but wouldn't your holster have protected your gun from the rivets?
why would you carry,what you consider an expensive gun, in a holster that wouldn't protect it?

i think the ultimate answer is no...i would expect rubbing one metal against another to leave a mark
 
maybe i'm the only one unclear on this, but wouldn't your holster have protected your gun from the rivets?
why would you carry,what you consider an expensive gun, in a holster that wouldn't protect it?

i think the ultimate answer is no...i would expect rubbing one metal against another to leave a mark
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The barrel and shroud of the gun peek down below the holster ever so slightly.
 
Umm, a lot of holsters are designed that way.:scrutiny: I have one for my .45 that only covers about 3 inches. Not every holster is some big, hulking, full coverage one
 
I find it kind of annoying that the OP is witholding the type of pistol, type of holster etc.

Just intellectually annoying.

My guess is it is a Ctac / crossbreed Iwb type, that leaves a lot of the gun exposed to the pant.

But since we dont have that info I am pulling that out of the air.
 
rivets...

I carry a P239, 40 nitron when wearing jeans because of the rivets and switch to a P239, 9 SAS when wearing khakis all because of the copper sheen, besides the 40 already had a bit of holster wear so it's okay. I usually use a belt slide holster from "activepro" cause when not carrying it's not easily noticed.
 
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