Do we need glenn beck on our side?

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I guess my point is, do we really want him babbling on every day about it, instead of maybe, hopefully,letting everyone move on to something besides gun control. I would rather their be no new gun control laws for the Senate to vote on, instead of us having to squeak out a victory every few years..Its like when global warming was on the agenda, we didnt hear anything about gun control. thats all im sayin...im just wanting it to die down..i know the two dont necessarily go hand in hand, i know its not all of glenn becks fault that its still in the news tho.....also, and i dont care what anybody says, im glad he supports the troops and 2a but ted nugent is near mentally challenged
 
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Who else has been better for talking points? No one. There has been VERY few things that he has been wrong on and when he was it was minor and he apologized for it. He sites where his info is coming from for Pete's sake.

Without Beck, 9/12, and the Tea Party we would have new gun laws going into motion on a National level right now.

9/12
Acorn
Van Jones
Benghazi
Saudi student that was released

Above are just some of the things that Beck was considered "out there" on but was proven to be true and action happened. When the Left have major party influences claiming to be Socialists or Communists openly on Sunday morning political news....I don't mind Becks crying (literally) enough to condemn.

WE NEED MORE BECKS before it will get better. His book Control will be good to inform the sheep.
 
colonel kernel said:
I like him and what he stands for but ive been wondering about this since the last 4 or 5 times ive heard his radio show lately, he was talking about guns, gun rights,etc (he is very pro gun/constitution) and he also has a book coming out about these topics also..You all will probably bash me on this since we need everyone we can get but he seems to be a lightning rod of sorts. i mean, its almost like the left are even more determined when someone like Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh are carrying the flag for a certain cause...i think i wish that he would just be quiet so the other side can just move on to the next thing..i feel more comfortable when all is quiet on the gun front i guess (can we get the global warming crap started back up again?)..what thinks ye?
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We don't need him.
 
Beck really only hit mainstream in the last 10 years or so. I believe his opinions are for the most part well researched. Much of what he has been preaching about the middle east has come to pass or is in the progress of coming to pass. He correctly identifies radical muslims/Islam as our enemy.
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agree..but thats not what im getting at..
 
Queen, are you about to post that you were joking about not needing him???
 
I intend to buy his latest book, Control. So I think we need more voices who are grounded in basic American values and less people who are unwilling to say it like it is or are so focused on a single issue that they are blind to the whole picture.
 
We can never be quiet. That's our problem. We are the quiet majority while the left eats, drinks and lives their agenda. We cannot be quite. Beck is just one voice amongst many. We need to be the millions of voices that stop the progressive agenda not only for guns but for our children, the climate, over regulation... And the bloombergs of the world who think they know better than you.
 
22-rimfire said:
I intend to buy his latest book, Control. So I think we need more voices who are grounded in basic American values and less people who are unwilling to say it like it is or are so focused on a single issue that they are blind to the whole picture.
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Well said... You're 100% right.
 
No matter how much time passes, no matter how many times are rights are threatened, there are still people who believe that if only we said the right things, if only we presented ourselves in such and such a way, if only we made the right concessions...................... the lefties would like us then.

I got news for you. They won't.

Yes, they really are out to get us.

And there is an endless variety of things they could use against us. If Glen Beck wasn't there, it would be someone else. I could spend a lifetime showing YouTube videos of people doing childish, dangerous, stereotypical hillbilly type stuff with guns posted by gun owners. Glen Beck is a non-issue.

Gun owners voting for anti-gun elected officals is out biggest problem.
 
Those who believe Beck is too far right are merely illustrating where they stand politically. Glenn is to the left of me as far as I can ascertain, but he is the first and so far only public figure that is explaining what the left is doing to destroy the republic and how they wish to revise history in order to erase the concept of individual liberty and freedom. I have bought a ton of books due to their being mentioned on his show (no, they were not written by him, most were out of print but accurately portray history) Those of you prefer to remain blissfully ignorant will cause the rest of us to bear the burden of your flaws.....
 
G Beck is our attack dog aka rottweiler and bulldog. We need attack dogs whatever background they are in . We need groundpounders like the US Marines. It s stand and fight and fight to win . G Beck has the persona and charisma to be our point man. Semper Fi.
 
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I also agree that Glenn Beck is not an issue, nor is Rush Linbaugh. The difference between the hard core conservative versus the hard core liberal is that the conservative actually would criticize their party publically where as the more liberal would not do it publically. The talking heads are always on topic and hitting hard with their cause.... They do not try to change to make people like them.

Gun owners voting for anti-gun elected officals is out biggest problem.
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THAT is the problem in a nutshell. Thoughtful citizens often view gun control issues as just another issue or they dismiss gun control legislation as likely not to pass through the legislative process. They are a little blind or have tunnel vision, but I can understand where they come from. Many of these people dislike what they consider the righteous far Right Republicans who want to control them and lean more toward what they think is a more freedom oriented approach (essentially left of center), but they are being used as these people want to control them even more than the righteous Right.

It is a difficult thing and most people don't pay attention to politics until the presidential election. Even then, only about 25% are well informed, and 50% simply vote D or R IF they vote.

There is a reason why the political parties want you registered to vote. My guess is that there is a 60-75% probablity that you will vote for the party you are registered in.
 
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sorry doc, didnt notice the first one
 
Beck's book on Guns is out...saw it in paperback at the grocery store, $12.99 or something like that. Looked decent, but a lot of it was a rehash of what I've already read (Kleck, Lott, etc) so I didn't buy it.

Sarah Palin and Judge Jeanine Perro brought them to their feet cheering at the NRA convention
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Sarah had me cheering before she said a word....:D
 
colonel kernel said:
I like him and what he stands for but ive been wondering about this since the last 4 or 5 times ive heard his radio show lately, he was talking about guns, gun rights,etc (he is very pro gun/constitution) and he also has a book coming out about these topics also..You all will probably bash me on this since we need everyone we can get but he seems to be a lightning rod of sorts. i mean, its almost like the left are even more determined when someone like Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh are carrying the flag for a certain cause...i think i wish that he would just be quiet so the other side can just move on to the next thing..i feel more comfortable when all is quiet on the gun front i guess (can we get the global warming crap started back up again?)..what thinks ye?
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Along the lines of what 444 said, there is no one who dares to speak to the non-gun owners about 2nd amendment freedom who is not, or will not become a "lightning rod". Anybody can make a one-time statement in support and be forgotten, but for anyone to consistently toe the line they will have to know that they will be continuously and mercilessly attacked with anything they think they can latch onto. If you think you have a spotless record and a common connection with everyday people, try singing the praises of the 2nd amendment consistently in a public forum and see if you can come out of it without being portrayed as an extremist wacko, not just on guns, but in everything you stand for and have ever stood for.

I'm glad there are people like Glenn willing to use their platform despite the abuse that will be heaped upon them.
 
Sarah Palin is sort of like Biden, you either like her or you totally dislike her. But she's good to have around.

The NRA convention should not be a political rally.... or should it?
 
G Beck 's history saw himself in utter financial despair in the past. He is a paid speaker who knows how to expound his thoughts with some of his weird ideas. He knows Americans want that extra
extra oomps to keep them in fear. That is his forte. We need him on our side to draw in the many who listens to his brand of thinking. We do not discriminate. This is the fight to defend our 2 A. Everyone is welcome. Common denominator is , we keep our rights and guns to bear.
 
No matter how much time passes, no matter how many times are rights are threatened, there are still people who believe that if only we said the right things, if only we presented ourselves in such and such a way, if only we made the right concessions...................... the lefties would like us then.

I got news for you. They won't.
Yes, they really are out to get us.


.444 is exactly right and its about time that we just up and say it. We are in a idealogical struggle between two diametrically opposed philosophys, those who believe that we as individuals are responsible for our own success or failure in life and that we are responsible for our own security as well, and those who believe that the "government" is responsible for those things and should provide them for us. And these two points of view can never find common ground. "We" will always pose a threat to "them" because of our individualistic attitude; therefore, "they" will never be satisfied as long as "we" exist.
 
Along the lines of what 444 said, there is no one who dares to speak to the non-gun owners about 2nd amendment freedom who is not, or will not become a "lightning rod". Anybody can make a one-time statement in support and be forgotten, but for anyone to consistently toe the line they will have to know that they will be continuously and mercilessly attacked with anything they think they can latch onto. If you think you have a spotless record and a common connection with everyday people, try singing the praises of the 2nd amendment consistently in a public forum and see if you can come out of it without being portrayed as an extremist wacko, not just on guns, but in everything you stand for and have ever stood for.
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true
 
Like WW1 , the doughboys dugged in the trenches and held the line. It was dirty nasty work and
lives were on the line. This time it is our gun rights thats on the line. We must dig in and fight no matter the cost.
 
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