"Do you give notice to homeowners before you concealed carry in their home?"
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I won't carry in someones home unless I'm 100% positive they are cool with it.
It's just a matter of being respectful.
It's just a matter of being respectful.
Voted for the last option. I have a permit. I assume that my rights are unrestricted on personal property until notified otherwise. Guests in my home may assume the same. If told that guns are not welcome, either the gun gets stashed outside, or I seek my entertainment elsewhere.
Even with the above, if I get the hint that guns aren't welcome and my carrying hasn't been disclosed, I'll still be discreet in taking my leave or stashing the gun in the car. No reason to make an issue of it, since we're talking about something on equal footing with pro or anti gun (property rights, which I do, in the end, try to respect).
Even with the above, if I get the hint that guns aren't welcome and my carrying hasn't been disclosed, I'll still be discreet in taking my leave or stashing the gun in the car. No reason to make an issue of it, since we're talking about something on equal footing with pro or anti gun (property rights, which I do, in the end, try to respect).
HM2PAC
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As a general rule, I don't normally tell anyone that I'm carrying. Most people that know me ccw as well, and expect that I am carrying.
Carl N. Brown
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Do you give ask guests if they concealed carry in your home?
No. Dont ask, dont care.
Really, leaving your gun in the car or asking armed guests to leave their guns in their car leaves the gun vulnerable to theft. I think it's safer to carry the gun concealed.
When we visited my wife's uncle in Baltimore, I watched as he moved his revolver from his holster to the glove box when exiting his car, and retrieved it when he got back in. It would have been a lot safer just to carry concealed, but he was a corrections officers and followed the rules on where and how to carry. It seemed like a bother to me.
No. Dont ask, dont care.
Really, leaving your gun in the car or asking armed guests to leave their guns in their car leaves the gun vulnerable to theft. I think it's safer to carry the gun concealed.
When we visited my wife's uncle in Baltimore, I watched as he moved his revolver from his holster to the glove box when exiting his car, and retrieved it when he got back in. It would have been a lot safer just to carry concealed, but he was a corrections officers and followed the rules on where and how to carry. It seemed like a bother to me.
myrockfight
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My humble thoughts
My personal thoughts reside in the area of misANTHrope's and geekwitha.45's. I don't live in or frequent a state with a law stating differently. So with me it is a don't ask, don't tell policy.
If I happened to mention I had a permit or carried and someone asked me not to carry inside their home, I don't think I would. However, to be realistic, I probably wouldn't be visiting an anti household that often anyway. To me, it would be just like the courthouse, post office, school building, etc. It would be so infrequent, I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Ultimately, it is their house and I respect that. But there is also no law that states I must ask permission either. So I don't have a problem with a don't ask, don't tell policy. I would expect them to reciprocate and I have not problem with that.
The bottom line - I know that there have been fewer felonies with CWP permit holders than any other group of people that I know of. I would rather have a whole house full of armed permit holders than a house full of any other group (with or without guns) or random choice of the general public. That definitely includes my car too. So if everyone is all for CWP's and are extolling permit holder's virtues, why in the heck would I not trust someone who is actually carrying in my home. I wouldn't call someone a liar, if they called me a complete hypocrite in the same category as Rosie O'Donnell with her armed bodyguards. (After or precluding a civil discussion of course
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Police officer's are easily the most nervous bunch when it comes to potential weapons in reach, etc. Often, I will show my permit when pulled over, just to put the officer at ease. Do I have to? No. But I can see them relax when I do. If I can make another person's day a little less stressful, I'm happy to do it - especially if I don't perceive any cost to me. I know others would not make that choice - that is absolutely fine and I respect that. Incidently, I have not received a ticket after doing so. Honestly, I do not know exactly why. It is an awfully odd coincidence.
When I invite someone into my home, I am taking a calculated risk and am under the obvious assumption, they will not commit a felony or any heinous act or have one under way. I feel that is a risk I take. I don't care if they have a gun, knife, can of pepper spray, taser, or any other legal object on their persons. I'm assuming they are a sane and responsible individual. Otherwise, they are not coming in. Period. I think most people make the same assumption - consciously or not.
If there are any questionable characters coming across my threshold, either someone is vouching for them, and I am carrying concealed myself and keeping a sharp eye on them or I invite them in, carry myself, and keep constant supervision of them. This happens often in my townhouse as they are doing electrical work and having inspectors come in. Fortunately, I work at home and I can keep an eye on them.
I definitely respect everyone's thoughts and feelings on the subject. If you deem it necessary to ask every single person who walks into your home if they are carrying - and I happen to be a person in question while armed - I'd be happy to tell you the truth. If you wanted me to leave my gun in the truck, that would be fine too. But I would definitely be discussing the finer points of the issue at length - especially if you are a permit holder yourself.
Thanks to everyone who is taking part in the poll and typing out there thoughts. I was honestly curious about this and everyone's opinion has shed a lot of light on all sides of the discussion. That is appreciated no matter where you stand. I'm glad most of the comments have been civil and respectful. I would expect nothing less of you fine fellows!
Does anyone think any of the poll choices contradict the POLL question? (Not the title of the thread?! Please let me know.
My personal thoughts reside in the area of misANTHrope's and geekwitha.45's. I don't live in or frequent a state with a law stating differently. So with me it is a don't ask, don't tell policy.
If I happened to mention I had a permit or carried and someone asked me not to carry inside their home, I don't think I would. However, to be realistic, I probably wouldn't be visiting an anti household that often anyway. To me, it would be just like the courthouse, post office, school building, etc. It would be so infrequent, I wouldn't have an issue with it.
Ultimately, it is their house and I respect that. But there is also no law that states I must ask permission either. So I don't have a problem with a don't ask, don't tell policy. I would expect them to reciprocate and I have not problem with that.
The bottom line - I know that there have been fewer felonies with CWP permit holders than any other group of people that I know of. I would rather have a whole house full of armed permit holders than a house full of any other group (with or without guns) or random choice of the general public. That definitely includes my car too. So if everyone is all for CWP's and are extolling permit holder's virtues, why in the heck would I not trust someone who is actually carrying in my home. I wouldn't call someone a liar, if they called me a complete hypocrite in the same category as Rosie O'Donnell with her armed bodyguards. (After or precluding a civil discussion of course
)Police officer's are easily the most nervous bunch when it comes to potential weapons in reach, etc. Often, I will show my permit when pulled over, just to put the officer at ease. Do I have to? No. But I can see them relax when I do. If I can make another person's day a little less stressful, I'm happy to do it - especially if I don't perceive any cost to me. I know others would not make that choice - that is absolutely fine and I respect that. Incidently, I have not received a ticket after doing so. Honestly, I do not know exactly why. It is an awfully odd coincidence.
When I invite someone into my home, I am taking a calculated risk and am under the obvious assumption, they will not commit a felony or any heinous act or have one under way. I feel that is a risk I take. I don't care if they have a gun, knife, can of pepper spray, taser, or any other legal object on their persons. I'm assuming they are a sane and responsible individual. Otherwise, they are not coming in. Period. I think most people make the same assumption - consciously or not.
If there are any questionable characters coming across my threshold, either someone is vouching for them, and I am carrying concealed myself and keeping a sharp eye on them or I invite them in, carry myself, and keep constant supervision of them. This happens often in my townhouse as they are doing electrical work and having inspectors come in. Fortunately, I work at home and I can keep an eye on them.
I definitely respect everyone's thoughts and feelings on the subject. If you deem it necessary to ask every single person who walks into your home if they are carrying - and I happen to be a person in question while armed - I'd be happy to tell you the truth. If you wanted me to leave my gun in the truck, that would be fine too. But I would definitely be discussing the finer points of the issue at length - especially if you are a permit holder yourself.
Thanks to everyone who is taking part in the poll and typing out there thoughts. I was honestly curious about this and everyone's opinion has shed a lot of light on all sides of the discussion. That is appreciated no matter where you stand. I'm glad most of the comments have been civil and respectful. I would expect nothing less of you fine fellows!
Does anyone think any of the poll choices contradict the POLL question? (Not the title of the thread?! Please let me know.
mrsavage93
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No... I dont give notice. Dont ask.. dont tell....
romma
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A difference of 273 currently.
rainbowbob
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You are referring to the vote count, I presume. I can't make much sense of the numbers because it is multiple choice. That kind of screws it up for me.
The percentages add up to more than 100%. Maybe a statistics wiz or the OP can help out with what the results mean.
In general, my suggestion for polls is to keep them simple, i.e., questions with yes/no answers.
This poll could have easily been set up as a yes/no choice and would have provided a much clearer result.
deanf
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Your poll is defective. I voted for all 6.
the_right_reverend
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everyone I know well enough packs and they know I pack
In 35 years I never had a problem, if someone comes in my house, I don't ask them what they have in their pockets. It's none of my business, nor should it be theirs. If you want to go that route, you are opening the door for a debate. If they say come on over and leave your gun home, then you need to make a decision, but that 's never happened. So I guess my way works just fine for the last 35 years, I have no doubt that it will do the same for the next 20-30yrs.
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