orienteeer
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or take it w/you every time you leave the car?
do you leave your carry pistol locked in the car???
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Mine gets locked in the car several times per day.
I have a small remodeling company in the Topeka area. I am not going to carry a loaded gun into a customers home without their blessing. I leave the holster in my waste band. When leaving I just slip it back into place otherwise its locked inside a small strong box. The strong box is cable locked to both the floor of the truck and the seat frame.
I have a small remodeling company in the Topeka area. I am not going to carry a loaded gun into a customers home without their blessing. I leave the holster in my waste band. When leaving I just slip it back into place otherwise its locked inside a small strong box. The strong box is cable locked to both the floor of the truck and the seat frame.
Old Dog
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Why would one leave one's carry pistol in the car?
ArchAngelCD
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A carry pistol is a carry pistol so there's practically no reason for it to be off your body.
If for some reason I have to leave it in the car (like going into a government building) it gets locked in a small handgun safe that's cabled to the trunk.
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Pretty simple....To go into places that forbid carrying a firearm.
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Like others have said - lock it in an strong box. I have a few of these nanovaults. I keep one under my driver's seat should I need to take my pistol off of me. It still could get stolen, but it going to take a little more effort and tools to bust the cable or box.
Kingcreek
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I drive a crossover that has several storage compartments accessable from the back seat or rear hatch. One of them has a lockbox permanently mounted in it for those times when I need it.
If I am going straight somewhere where I cannot carry and then straight back home, I don't even bother carrying. But if I'm going somewhere where I can't carry amidst other places, I'll leave it in the car in a gunvault nano. I'm not really seeing where the OPs question is coming from.
Stevie-Ray
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Mine goes with me every time I leave the car, as it's on me. In a CEZ situation, it gets locked in my nano-vault.
orienteeer
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ok, look. i have a gun near my bedside in the house. i have another one in my car; it's ready to go, as soon as i rack it & take safety off. i don't want to have a nanovault between me & it. i don't NEED to bring my car gun inside. i'm asking, is a locked car as good as having it inside my house? i live in an upscale suburb w/no history of breakins or burglaries.
if you guys can't focus on the ?, pls back off.
if you guys can't focus on the ?, pls back off.
Ala Dan
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I take mine with me [where applicable]~! In other law enforcement locals,I
seek out their "lock boxes" within the station; otherwise places that don't
allow licensed CCW holders, I DO NOT frequent - period~!
seek out their "lock boxes" within the station; otherwise places that don't
allow licensed CCW holders, I DO NOT frequent - period~!
bbuddtec
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yep mostly on occasion of having to enter a fed building, etc. Otherwise, never. Oddly enough, haven't seen a "no guns" establishment here in NY...
I leave mine in the car when I come in the house, but my car is locked in the garage. I would not leave it in the car if the car was just in the driveway. Even in a nanovault. An upscale suburb doesn't mean your stuff is safe. It just means you haven't been hit yet. If you're a crook, are you gonna rob the crack house (most likely your buddies) or are you gonna find an unprotected house in a nice, peaceful suburb? That's where the good stuff is until it gets stolen and sold to the guys in the crackhouse for an eightball.
I'm confused. I thought you started this thread to solicit the very feedback you're now not happy to be hearing. I'll keep playing, FWIW.
Having a gun in a locked car is not as secure as having it in the house, even if that home has guns but no safe. There's less risk to the criminal - a vehicle can be verified vacant, smashed, and gone through in the time it takes to jigger a window and enter a home. So, the crime is faster, easier, "cleaner," and less at risk of interruption than a home burglary. I used to a live in a neighborhood with no history of vehicle break-ins too... until the day it happened. I walked down the stairs of the apartment toward the door, then noticed a letter from the local PD hanging on it advising of the smash-and-grabs and telling residents to report missing items.
I'd left a gun under the seat the previous night, and as I walked from the apartment door to the vehicle to see if it had been broken into, my thoughts weren't on the value of the (potentially) missing gun. Instead I was thinking about the mayhem that could be caused by my complacency. Whether or not I was legally culpable, I didn't want my stupid mistake to be the reason a criminal shot someone else. I was lucky that time; my car and belongings were spared, but it wasn't because of a nanovault. It's because I had a non-descript vehicle that was a lot older than most of the others in the lot, and therefore not a worthy target. No more long-term storage of guns in cars for me. The only way a gun stays in the car is if I have no alternative, and even then not for very long.
You're welcome to poo-poo the rather sound advice you're getting in this thread to secure your guns. Leaving them vulnerable to theft is your prerogative; just don't expect the rest of us to condone that behavior.
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ArchAngelCD
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That's a little nasty of you considering no one seems to be bashing you!
BTW, caps and punctuation are a good thing when writing.
bergmen
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Yes.
Dan
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Not wasting my time here.
Something to consider is the place you need to park and the time frame the vehicle will be left unattended. Restaurant parking lot, broad day light, and a man and family went inside to be seated. There was a wait so the man went back outside after approx 5 minutes to grab a smoke only to find his car driver's side window smashed. Computer, cell phone, and other items were gone.
Smash and grab can happen anyplace.
Very upscale restaurant and the man had driven up from Mexico to celebrate a family members birthday with a special meal. Long story short I told him, "Welcome to America"!
Bolt cutters, long screw drivers that can be used as a crowbar, are all tools of the trade so, "do you feel lucky today"?
Smash and grab can happen anyplace.
Very upscale restaurant and the man had driven up from Mexico to celebrate a family members birthday with a special meal. Long story short I told him, "Welcome to America"!
Bolt cutters, long screw drivers that can be used as a crowbar, are all tools of the trade so, "do you feel lucky today"?
M2 Carbine
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I lock my carry gun in the car sometimes, like when going into a government building.
Makes no difference anyhow, since in all my vehicles there is a 24/7 spare handgun and rifle.
And all the handguns are where I can get them while I'm in the seat belt. It makes no sense having a car gun locked away where you can't instantly get to it if needed. By the time you get to a locked gun the shooting will probably already be over, one way or the other.
The gun may as well be at home in the safe.
Same goes for your carry gun, if it's all you have available. If you can't quickly draw it while in the seat belt, the car jacking or whatever, will probably be over before you manage to get your gun.
Makes no difference anyhow, since in all my vehicles there is a 24/7 spare handgun and rifle.
And all the handguns are where I can get them while I'm in the seat belt. It makes no sense having a car gun locked away where you can't instantly get to it if needed. By the time you get to a locked gun the shooting will probably already be over, one way or the other.
The gun may as well be at home in the safe.
Same goes for your carry gun, if it's all you have available. If you can't quickly draw it while in the seat belt, the car jacking or whatever, will probably be over before you manage to get your gun.
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If its one you leave in your car, it's not your carry gun. That's where most of us got confused. Your question wasn't "do you leave your carry gun in the car", it's "is a locked car secure enough for a pistol."
Breaking into a car is a fairly low-risk crime for the criminal, for reasons stated above. Granted, a nanovault isn't going to keep them from getting the gun, but it is going to keep them from being able to immediately use it. Either way, they're probably not going to use it on you when they're breaking into your car.
Personally, my car gun IS my carry gun. If I carry, there's one in the car with me, and then it goes with me when I go somewhere. Also, if you just leave it in the car, you need to remember to take it out and leave it at home before going on federal property, should you have reason to be on federal property.
Breaking into a car is a fairly low-risk crime for the criminal, for reasons stated above. Granted, a nanovault isn't going to keep them from getting the gun, but it is going to keep them from being able to immediately use it. Either way, they're probably not going to use it on you when they're breaking into your car.
Personally, my car gun IS my carry gun. If I carry, there's one in the car with me, and then it goes with me when I go somewhere. Also, if you just leave it in the car, you need to remember to take it out and leave it at home before going on federal property, should you have reason to be on federal property.
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