Arizonagunrunner
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Sure do. I drop the gun in the hand, and go to the backup.
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Do you practice weapons malfunctions? How do you deal with failure to fire?
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Arizonagunrunner
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Yep, I drop the gun in hand, and go to the back up.
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PJSprog
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"What exactly is a FTF / FTE?" ... said the revolver guys. 
Smith357
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I pull the trigger again.
My drill
My agency teaches TAP (pushing up on the bottom of the mag)-RACK (racking the slide to clear the jam and reload)-BANG and TAP-RACK-LOCK OPEN (locking open the slide)-RIP (pulling out the mag, not simply ejecting it)-RELOAD-BANG.
After doing it a lot, I just start with a RIP-RACK-RELOAD. It is faster and it works almost every time.
I usually shoot a BERETTA or SIG and sometimes a WALTHER PPK, so this has worked for me.
Jim
My agency teaches TAP (pushing up on the bottom of the mag)-RACK (racking the slide to clear the jam and reload)-BANG and TAP-RACK-LOCK OPEN (locking open the slide)-RIP (pulling out the mag, not simply ejecting it)-RELOAD-BANG.
After doing it a lot, I just start with a RIP-RACK-RELOAD. It is faster and it works almost every time.
I usually shoot a BERETTA or SIG and sometimes a WALTHER PPK, so this has worked for me.
Jim
Sam1911
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So you drop the mag regardless of what's wrong with the gun?
I think the argument for NOT doing that would be that a "TRB" done properly takes only about 1 second -- and gets your gun functional again probably 95% of the time.
Wheras the RIP-RACK-RELOAD is going to take at least 3 seconds* and will only be useful in some portion of that last 5% of malfunctions.
* - It would take about 3 seconds IF there is actually not a serious "Type III" malfunction. But if it isn't a serious "Type III" malfunction, the R-R-R isn't needed at all! So there's an extra couple of seconds added, so long as you didn't need to do that step anyway.
At least that's how I view it based on my experiences.
I think the argument for NOT doing that would be that a "TRB" done properly takes only about 1 second -- and gets your gun functional again probably 95% of the time.
Wheras the RIP-RACK-RELOAD is going to take at least 3 seconds* and will only be useful in some portion of that last 5% of malfunctions.
* - It would take about 3 seconds IF there is actually not a serious "Type III" malfunction. But if it isn't a serious "Type III" malfunction, the R-R-R isn't needed at all! So there's an extra couple of seconds added, so long as you didn't need to do that step anyway.
At least that's how I view it based on my experiences.
RetiredUSNChief
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You train like you fight and you fight like you train.
Words (and actions) to live by.
ArkieVol
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Yep...
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Not a lot of practice required.
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Not a lot of practice required.
rodinal220
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Yes,magazines from Triple-K,Promag,gun show mystery mags are great for autoloader training.
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