Do you support special training for 50 cal purchasers?

[JohnKSa]

After reading the currently active thread on firearm training, something became obvious to me. I wanted to post this thread to see if it also revealed the same thing. I want to make it clear that I support the right of people to purchase .50 caliber airguns but I wonder if they should have to submit to special training. After all, these are not at all like a typical firearm and there is no specific protection under the constitution or the second amendment and they can be much more dangerous than most people would expect.

Thank you in advance for your responses.

 

[CZ 75 BD]

Nope

 

[hillbilly]

What the heck are ".50 caliber airguns?"

Doesn't sound like an actual firearm, even.

hillbilly

 

[Bear Gulch]

Nope. Most 50 cal shooters aren't newbies. So, they either know a bit, or are beyond teaching!

 

[SkyDaver]

Heck yes! If they're a .50 cal shooter, they need investment training!

 

[HighVelocity]

They need weight training so they don't get fatigued carrying it around under their coats.

 

[RooK]

It's a slippery slope. If you set a precedent for training before owning .50cals, how long before it will spread to assault rifles, high power rifles, handguns, or even .22s? Think how your plan can be abused before you truly consider it viable.

 

[Daemon688]

To serve what purpose? The only people buying those weapons are not new shooters. For anyone to devote that much $$$ into a weapon they have to be part of the gun culture.

 

[bbrins]

Absolutely not. I think RooK summed it up best.

 

[Bear Gulch]

"Gee, which will I get for my first rifle? I could get the Marlin model 60 in .22 or this Barrett .50 cal."

 

[fjolnirsson]

After all, these are not at all like a typical firearm

Really? They operate using different laws of physics, then?

there is no specific protection under the constitution or the second amendment

Does The right to keep and bear arms ring a bell?

they can be much more dangerous than most people would expect.

There are no dangerous tools, only dangerous men.

Sorry, I don't buy it. No special training is needed. If we give in on this one, what's next? It's yet another opportunity for the grabbers to slowly restrict our rights.
No way, man.

 

[RoyG]

Does The right to keep and bear arms ring a bell?

+1!!!

 

[Parallax]

I wonder if they should have to submit to special training.

NO! :banghead:

 

[jefnvk]

No, nein, niet.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

I want to make it clear that I support the right of people to purchase .50 caliber airguns but I wonder if they should have to submit to special training.

I've heard of the old AR15 style airguns, such as the Airrow A-8S Stealth, that would shoot normal hunting arrows, but what exactly are you talking about?

Pictures or links would be extremely helpful...

 

[lwsimon]

I think there should be a special test for anyone purchasing a gun.

1) Are you currently breathing?
2) Do you have a pulse?
3) Are you currently incarcerated?
4) Do you intend to unlawfully kill someone with this weapon?

The last question is the kicker. OBVIOUSLY, no one who plans to kill can buy a gun now! Problem solved.

 

[Third_Rail]

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=486


That's the one. Kill a deer with it, no problem. Think of it as a smoke-free muzzleloader.

 

[Standing Wolf]

...I wonder if they should have to submit to special training.

As soon as I see that provision in the Second Amendment, I'll consider it; until then, no way in @#$%^&!

 

[SMMAssociates]

To be really honest about the .50's, perhaps the serious answer is yes - there are some things about this sort of gun that the dealer or a qualified shooter should pass along to the new buyer.

But we're talking a couple minutes across the sales counter, not ten hours of classroom time and a Saturday on the range.

(This would apply to somebody buying their first semi, or first revolver, too. "Read the manual and don't....")

Actually requiring classroom time for a specific type of firearm is just going to give the folks who invent the training the ability to change it. There's a big difference between being asked to point to "the extractor" on those standard "this is a semi-auto" charts and being asked how to program the CNC tool that makes one.... Never tempt 'em to do that....

Regards,

 

[Stand_Watie]

I support it. In fact, I support special training requirements for all calibers. Tax monies currently levied against ammunition and firearms purchases should be redirected into required firearms training for all Americans of majority age (who are not concientious objectors, traitors or felons) regardless of whether or not they are gunowners, as the founding fathers envisioned. Then again, perhaps I'd be a little more liberal than them and only require it of Americans who actually want to vote.

It shouldn't have anything to do with purchasing a firearm though. It should just be a requirement.

 

[hillbilly]

Again, I want to know exactly what is meant by "50 caliber airguns."

Is the weird thing on the link posted by Third-Rail what a "50 caliber airgun" is?

And based on what I've read, I think a lot of the respondents to this thread have posted their answers without carefully reading what JohnKSA wrote in his question.

It seems that most of the respondents are talking about .50 BMG firearms.

But I'm still not sure what a "50 caliber airgun" is yet....

hillbilly

 

[hrb02]

To be really honest about the .50's, perhaps the serious answer is yes - there are some things about this sort of gun that the dealer or a qualified shooter should pass along to the new buyer.

But we're talking a couple minutes across the sales counter, not ten hours of classroom time and a Saturday on the range.

+1

 

[Stand_Watie]

all, these are not at all like a typical firearm and there is no specific protection under the constitution or the second amendment and they can be much more dangerous than most people would expect.

I do have a couple of problems with this statement however. First of all they function exactly like a "typical" firearm. Secondly no firearm enjoys a specific protection under the second amendment - the 2nd is broader than just firearms- but the founding fathers of course had no concept of even a breech loading rifle, much less a revolver or semi-automatic, and lastly they are quite a bit less dangerous than any but informed gunners "would expect" if they get their information from the mainstream media.

 

[rem]

But I'm still not sure what a "50 caliber airgun" is yet....

It is pretty self-explanatory. Which part are you having trouble with?

In regard to the original question, the answer is no.

By the way, here is a review for the Career Dragon .50
http://www.pyramydair.com/site/articles/career-dragon/

 

[hillbilly]

Helloooooooo?

Any of y'all done bickering with each other enough to tell me what a "50 Caliber AIRGUN" is yet?



Again, I think a lot of y'all are chasing your tails about .50 BMG Firearms.

JohnKSA is not asking about .50 BMG Firearms here.

I think the words are "50 Caliber AIRGUN" if you will actually take the time to read the post instead of offering up your opinions first.


And, I am still not exactly sure what one of those things is.

To be honest, I had never, ever heard of a "50 caliber airgun" until I read the first post on this thread several minutes ago.

Can you actually kill deer with these things?

Are they basically pellet guns that sling .50 caliber chunks of lead using compressed air or CO2?

Dang.......talk about a complete revolution in coke can shooting....a .50 AIRGUN????

FOR REAL??!?!?!?!?!?!?

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What kind of Feet-per-second are we talkinga bout here? Where does one get .50 caliber airgun projectiles? Are they just .50 cal lead balls for muzzleloaders?

I think I just might want one.....if somebody will tell me exactly what one is for sure.

hillbilly