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Do you think this vehicle has to stop for traffic jams?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Oleg Volk, Jun 20, 2003.

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  1. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    90mm self-propelled cannon. Anyone got history on these?
     
  2. TallPine

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    Hey, the perfect rig for road hunting!

    Do you suppose there could be a saboted bullet for mulies and whitetails?

    Something like 180 grains at 25,000 fps ....?

    :)
     
  3. QuarterBoreGunner

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    Oleg-

    I've no idea what traffic is like in Nashville... but here in the San Francisco Bay Area... oh baby. Sign me up. Slap some turn signals and brake lights on that sucker.
     
  4. Art Eatman

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    Aw, that cannon's too noisy! Gimme a late model D-6 with a tilt blade...

    :D, Art
     
  5. BlackJack

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    Turn signals and brake lights?????

    We don' NEED no stinking turn signals and brake lights!!!!!!!
     
  6. Byron Quick

    Byron Quick Moderator In Memoriam

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    All your traffic jams are belong to us!
     
  7. 280PLUS

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    i'd say,,,

    if it stops for traffic jams, it would only be long enough to reload...

    :eek:
     
  8. gun-fucious

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    http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/selfpropelledguns/selfpropelledguns.html

    thats a pretty light carriage for a 90mm

     
  9. Tamara

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    It's probably a low-recoil 90mm, like the Cockerill or something similar.
     
  10. MLH

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    Tamara?

    You mean you don't own one(or two) of those?:D
     
  11. Pward

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    90mm Self-propelled Gun M56 Scorpion1-3 M56: General
    Date of first acceptance 1953
    Manufacturer Cadillac Motor Car Division of General Motors Corp. Crew 4 men:
    Commander on hull left rear
    Gunner on hull right center
    Driver on hull left center
    Loader on hull right center

    M56: Dimensions
    Combat weight 15,750lbs
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    7144kg Height over blast shield 78.9"
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    200cm
    Length without gun 179.4"
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    455.7cm Gun overhang forward 50.4"
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    128cm
    Width over fenders 101.3"
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    257.3cm Tread 78.0"
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    198cm
    Ground clearance 12.8"
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    32.5cm Fire height 66.0"
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    170cm
    Ground pressure, zero penetration 4.2psi
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    .29kg/cm²
    M56: Armament
    Type Mount Ammunition Traverse Elevation
    90mm Gun M54 M88 on hull center 29 rounds 60°
    (30° left and right
    manual) +15° to -10°
    (manual)
    M56: Armor
    None
    M56: Automotive
    Engine Continental AOI-402-5; 6 cylinder, 4 cycle, opposed, fuel injected gasoline
    Horsepower Net: 165@3000rpm
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    Gross: 200@3000rpm Torque Net: 325 ft-lb@2200rpm
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    Gross: 347 ft-lb@2800 Fuel capacity 55gal
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    210L
    Transmission Allison CD-150-4, 2 ranges forward, 1 reverse
    Steering Mechanical, steering wheel
    Brakes Multiple disc
    M56: Suspension
    Type Road wheels Track return rollers
    Torsion tube over bar at wheels 1 and 4, torsion bar at wheels 2 and 3 4 individually sprung/track with pneumatic tires Flat track
    Drive sprockets Idlers Shock absorbers
    15-tooth front drive Compensating at rear of track On first and last road wheels/track
    M56: Track
    Outside guide band type
    Width 20"
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    51cm Pitch 44†long sections;
    4†cross bar pitch
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    110cm long sections;
    10cm crossbar pitch Shoes/track 8 sections/track;
    88 cross bars/track Ground contact length 94"
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    240cm
    M56: Performance
    Max level road speed 28mph
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    45kph Max trench 48"
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    120cm
    Max grade 60% Max vertical obstacle 30"
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    76cm
    Min turning diameter Pivot Max fording depth 42"
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    110cm
    Cruising range ~140mi, roads
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    ~230km, roads




    The M56, also known as SPAT for Self-Propelled Anti-Tank, was designed as an airborne anti-tank gun. The 90mm gun M54 was ballistically identical to and used the same ammunition as the M36 90mm gun in the M47 tank, and it was fitted with a blast deflector. The M56 was unarmored, and consisted of little more than a gun mounted on a tracked aluminum alloy carrier. There was a small blast shield fitted to the weapon, and this had a windscreen in the left side for the driver to look through. Creature comforts were nonexistent as the vehicle was completely open. The commander sat on top of the radio, and the loader's seat was on top of the right fender stowage box, leaving the gunner and driver as the only crewmen "in" the vehicle. The tires on the M56 could run flat up to 15mi (24km) at up to 15mph (24kph). The ammunition rack was located in the lower rear hull, and the loader was provided with a folding platform from which to feed the gun.


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    Hunnicutt, R.P. Sheridan: A History of the American Light Tank, volume 2. Navato, CA: Presidio Press, 1995.
    Reprinted with permission from Sheridan, R.P. Hunnicutt ©1995, available from Presidio Press, 505B San Martin Drive, Suite 160, Navato, CA 94945.

    Crismon, Fred W. U.S. Military Tracked Vehicles. Osceola, WI: Motorbooks International, 1992.

    next:) :D
     
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    It looks like the perfect vehicle for the 405FWY in LA, at 5pm on a Friday afternoon.

    90mm huh? So I can shoot through what, 10 lowered honda civics with one shot?:D
     
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    Looks like the perfect vehicle for someone who is trying to compensate for shortcomings elsewhere. Where do I get one?
     
  15. glockten

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    Oleg,

    Is that the one in front of the American Legion post in Donelson?
     
  16. Kinda looks like my Blazer.
    Now if I could only get that gun on top.:evil:
     
  17. makdaddy03

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    To answer your question.

    NOPE.;)
     
  18. Darrin

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    Are those surefire's on the front or just headlights? :confused:
     
  19. Moparmike

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    Why is the first thing I think of the movie "Goldeneye' where Q is telling 007 that he "has a license to kill, not to break the traffic laws...":D

    Looks like the perfect ride for downtown Fayettenam. Like to see some socialist snotrag tell me what I cant do with that... :neener: (J/k, i would never do something like that while it was illegal...)
     
  20. garrettwc

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    Hey cool!

    Runt got some new wheels!!:D:D
     
  21. El Tejon

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    I don't think that would work here in Orange Barrel City. The rap music and dust could still get to the crew.

    I'll stick to my surplus Iraqi T-72. Never been fired and only driven to Syria in reverse.:D
     
  22. Oleg Volk

    Oleg Volk Moderator Emeritus

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    Yes, that's it.
     
  23. 4v50 Gary

    4v50 Gary Moderator Staff Member

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    Pward's got it right. The M36 utilized the chasis of the M10 which itself was based on the Sherman (but w/out the armor).

    BTW, if you really want firepower, how about the Vespa motorscooter with the recoil-less rifle mounted on it? The ultimate for in/out drive bys.
     
  24. Sven

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    MUCH more pimpin that an Escalade!
     
  25. 280PLUS

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    this thread kind reminds me of,,,

    when i was in the nav they had a frigate which they had mounted an 8" gun on the bow of this otherwise lightweight ship

    no matter what they did to reinforce the bow, every time they shot it off, the ship had to go in for repairs and get all the cracks welded up again,,,

    wish i could remember the name of the boat,,,oh well

    m
     
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