Does anybody make a nice, METAL, CO2 BB/pellet pistol?

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I need something to scratch that itch when I've just got to pull the trigger. I've already got a few BB guns I've had since I was a kid, but they're all lightweight plastic. I do have a 1911 copy made out of metal but it is still very light and very weak.

What I'm looking for is a BB/pellet pistol that FEELS like a real gun in the hand. Is there such a thing? Maybe one strong enough to scare off the racoons?
 
This isn't the answer you are looking for. However.

I keep a Daisy Powerline Model 93 CO2 BB pistol around.

It is partly potmetal, partly plastic, but..........

Is physically the size and style of a 1911, fits my hand,

And is pretty damn accurate.

By accurate, I mean that I use it to shoot

Horned rabbits in the butt whenever they make another assault

On my shrubbery and landscape plants,

Up to about 50 yards.

Very effective.

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I sold an old Crosman single-shot target pistol. It was a bolt-action CO2 pellet pistol that looked like a Ruger .22, but had a thumbrest grip.

That thing was a tackdriver. I used to bet my roommates for lunch: 5 cans, 5 pellets, the length of the side yard. Generally, I knocked down all the cans. After they bought me too many lunches, they wouldn't bet any more.

Scroll to the bottom. If we buy this house we're looking at, with tall fences, I might just buy one again.:)

http://www.airgunsbbguns.com/crosman_air_pistols_pellet_s/51.htm
 
In a fit of silliness I bought a Walther PPK BB clone. I must admit that it has the feel since it's a full on blowback and made from heavy enough metal that it is close to feeling real. I thought it would be a good house practice "toy" for when that itch strikes.

However BB's just do not do it for accuracy Even at around 10 feet the groupings are around 1.5 to 2 inches with NO consistency at all. And given that I can shoot that sort of grouping or tighter at around 3 times that distance with a 9mm when I settle down and concentrate I found this a little frustrating.

However if you just want something to go POP! and make a hole in some paper then it fits the hand wonderfully and the slide coming back and recocking the hammer is shear fun.

But I'd look for a "blowback" pellet gun instead. I've found one that is around $100 and is a copy of the Beretta PX-4 that shoots .177 pellets. The pellets will get distorted even hitting soft stuff so they can't be re-used (as often?) but at least the groupings will be of a decent size and as a result better practice.

EDIT- for links

Beretta PX-4 pellet pistol http://www.umarexusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=130

The Walther PPK I've got - http://www.umarexusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=123 It really is fun to shoot but the accuracy issue ticks me off.

For more accuracy and better grouping I think this would be nice... http://www.umarexusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=141
 
I have a RWS C225 which is an awesome Sig replica, unforunately I don't think they're made anymore..

Almost all metal, it's DA/SA, and even has a functional decocker :)

Edit: Is RWS now called Umarex? I had trouble finding info about my pistol online..
 
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Wanna spend a little more on it? Look for a Beeman P-1 pistol. These were sold a lot in the eighties, and went for about $200 then. Looked and felt like a 1911, and would even take aftermarket '11 grips. They were in .177 caliber. Maybe some still out there in the used airgun market..
I used to have a Crosman Python 357. Looked and felt much like the Colt. These, like the 38 already mentioned, broke open Webley-style to load, and the tab that holds it closed broke after a while on mine. But, it was fun to pop with, and quite accurate.
 
I would tecommend you a RWS C225, great Gun with acceptable Accurary and exemplary Service from Umarex. I damaged the Gun while I tried to improve the trigger. I brought it back to my Gunshop, the forwarded it to Umarex and they repaired and leaned the whole Gun for Free.
 
Co2 .177

I've got a Crosman .38T. .177 Co2, Have it in the original box in the bottom of my gun cabinet. (been there for 25 years or so). It's a copy of my 2 Colts, Officer police match pistols 6" barrel. Hell, until this thread i forgot i still had that thing. It holds 8 shots, again 6" barrel, and is made of steel, adjustable rear sights, accurate as hell. My father tought me proper target revolver techniques, it's SA and DA. practiced with it when i was younger, before i came to age and fired the above said revolvers in .22 and .38 calibers (still shot both on a weekly basis). And almost the same weight. i bought the Crosman about 1980, back then it was about $45.00. Still got some boxes of Co2 and boxes of pells, I need to get it out and play some. And yes, Crosman made a .38C, .38T and later a Python version with a vent ribbed 6" barrel. Back then Crosman was the top tier in Co2 pistols. Flawless and Fantastic shooting .

PS> Bigblock, Money has it your 1911 copy is Daisy, Spring cocked isn't it. good for about 10 feet? Used to have one, till i got the Crosman.
 
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I have a 100th Anniversary Colt .45 replica, made in Germany for Daisy. It weights 40 oz, is all steel (but the grips), has an 8 rounds clip, has the same controls as a .45 and is CO2 opperated. It's a sweet little pistol. I have never seen another one like it.
 
If you just want to shoot paper and don't need any real "power", take a look at the airsoft guns. I have an all metal G26 that looks and feels like my real one. Same size, weight, etc. Works perfectly with all my holsters. It uses "green gas" (propane, I think) instead of CO2. It's powerful enough to shoot through an empty soda can and it's very accurate in "garage distance" shooting. It's not realistic, but it has the "happy fun" G18 switch on the side. A full auto mag dump is quite fun!
 
If you dig up one of the old pump style pellet guns, look for the tiny little pin hole it uses to draw in air.
A drop or two of 3-in-1 oil in there will cause it to diesel on firing. :)

Kinda hard on the seals but it'll put a 22 to shame. :D
 
EAA used to import the Baikal
MP645k co2 pistol. It was made of ordnance steel and most of the parts were either the same as (or very similar to) actual Makarov pistol parts. They were so similar that ATF eventually made them stop bringing them in. The barrels are rifled. They now command a sort of collectors premium. That is assuming you want a CO2 semi-auto pistol.

Crosman used to make an 8 shot zinc CO2 semi-auto, with adjustable sights IIRC. Similar to a S&W 3rd gen semi-auto. I believe those are over $100 now.

If a single shot would work, you get way more options.
A few years ago, one of the milsurp dealers imported a bunch of Polish surplus Predom Lucznik training pistols from Poland. They were 1970s clones of Walther LP3 target pistols. All metal, pretty accurate and less than $40 at the time.

Crosman 1377- American Classic. Pumping it up is a pain, and it can be a difficult pistol to shoot, but it can be fun and accurate. Only $50 new at most sporting goods stores.

Compasseco carries some spring pistols that are imported from China that are wood+metal and not too expensive. I don't, however, have any personal experience with them.
 
Walther CP99 Compact!!!!

This co2 pistol feels super good in your hands! its almost all metal except for the plastic grips. its heavy and feels like you're holding a reall P99. it has ambi mag release, mag holds nineteen pellets! (not BBs, but i've sent many racoons flying with this thing). The fully metal slide blows back after every shot which kicks like a 22 pistol and also recocks the striker, so you have an extremely light SA trigger every time. just rack the slide before the first shot and you're good! oh yeah and the slide locks back after the last shot, flick the slide release and the metal slide clanks shut, trust me, you WILL feel retty hardcore with this thing :cool: . its got sights that are molded into the slide, so theyre not adjustable, but its ok cuz its pretty stinkin accurate. just expect to go through a little more co2 cuz of the blowback, but its really not that much.

out of all the bb guns ive handled, this one is as close to realistic as it gets: http://www.umarexusa.com/detail.aspx?ID=120

;)
 
I am partial to spring piston air guns. I have a Beeman P1 and Webley Tempest and am very happy. They've worked great for 20 years and still like new.
 
EAA used to import the Baikal
MP645k co2 pistol. It was made of ordnance steel and most of the parts were either the same as (or very similar to) actual Makarov pistol parts. They were so similar that ATF eventually made them stop bringing them in. The barrels are rifled. They now command a sort of collectors premium. That is assuming you want a CO2 semi-auto pistol.
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Well heck, I have one of those, but the model number on the box is model MP654K, Cal-BB.

Are you sure you got that model number right? This is a spittin' image of aa Makarov (I've got four EG guns also), in a brown cardboard box with a Baikal label. The gun is wrapped in brown wax paper and the whole package is in a plastic bag with an unopened package of looks like steel BB's with a lot of Russian text on it's label inside. The number "200" is all I can read so I guess that's how many BB's are in the littler baggie? A 'T' shaped screwdriver tool with a few o-rings - two black, two yellowish, Instruction manual.

Whole thing was opened once as I remember. Had it sitting in a drawer for years.

A collector's premium, eh? As in....how much?? (greed, greed)

Anybody want to trade this for a S&W 624 or 629 3" round butt? Straight across - I'll take the loss. :D
 
Beeman makes one (almost all metal) for ~$80.

I think the one I have is the series 2008. They apparently increase the # for each year, so now there's a 2009.

They look like a Beretta 92fs.
 
If your looking for something for realistic practice, that works and feels just like the gun you carry, check out KJW (K J Works) airsoft pistols.


I have a couple of their P229's and they pretty much mimic exactly the P229 in my holster(and fit all my holsters too). They function just like the real thing too. Gas and ammo go in the mags. Accurate enough to target shoot across a long room, and a raccoon at 15-25 yards wont be happy with your new toy either.
 
"Does anybody make a nice, METAL, CO2 BB/pellet pistol?"
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Yes. A Benjamin EB22.

http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/model.pl?model_id=425

All metal, built to last, and not too expensive. I've got one, and would buy another one tomorrow. Black brass, walnut grips. What's not to like? My other Benjamin is a model 132, predecessor of the of the current HB22. 40-years old, and still works fine. I've got the original box, and it has the price written on it -- $42. I think I got my money's worth out of it. I'm a huge fan of Benjamin/Sheridan air guns. Crosmans are OK, but not in the same league.
 
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