Does Anyone Here Still Carry or Shoot DA/SA?

[JR24]

Yet once again, you do not answer the question or make any suggestion of why I should put in any effort to adapt to a Glock!

But the topic is whether there is anyone still shooting DA/SA pistols and the answer there is simple. Yes there is!

I was never making that argument, I don’t care what you put effort in. Just pointing out the difference between can’t and won’t.

It’s quite similar to those who say they can’t shoot a DA trigger (they can, with practice and effort unless they can’t physically reach the trigger) but really mean they don’t want to put the effort in to learn it.

Either way, you do you.

edit: I guess I can suggest a reason you might want to learn to shoot a Glock. It’s a new and different skill that can help widen your horizon on firearms. Spend the time with all of them and the “grip angle” doesn’t adversely affect your other guns, your brain and hands can figure it out. I can and have laid out a Glock, Sig, 1911, and HK out on a table and run drills one after another with no issue. Swapping triggers is more detrimental to first shot accuracy to me than the grip. YMMV

 

[Ethan Verity]

Yes, my Walther PPK which I pocket carry in the summer time. I like the DA/SA for a pocket pistol, the DA is a nice passive safety in the pocket, and the SA is great for fast accurate follow up shots.

 

[JR24]

Got this one on my hip today

 

[trackskippy]

No one is telling you to adapt to anything, and there's really no adapting necessary, as they all are pretty much the same.

There really is no effort here either, but if you care in the least about being well educated and well rounded, you would think you'd be willing to put in the little bit of effort needed, to at least know what they "really" are, and to know what to expect when you shoot them, just like anything else.

I just think it funny how people get all crazy about things they readily admit they know nothing about, but its "bad" simply because they say so, and usually based on basically nothing.

Kind of reminds me about how Jeff Cooper always was bad mouthing the DA guns, calling them things like "crunchentickers" and saying stupid stuff like "use the DA trigger to "cock" the gun". All BS, for anyone who knows how to shoot a DA gun, but he liked SA guns, and youre an idiot if you use a DA gun.

If you cant shoot anything you might happen to have to pick up, reasonably well, its "still" not the guns fault. All the excuses and complaints are entirely on you.

 

[WVRJ]

I still carry and shoot my S&W Shorty 40,and of all the pistols I have,I still like it the best for carrying.It's very compact but still big enough to be an easy pistol to shoot well.I have 9 and 11 round magazines for it's a Performance Center pistol and they did a great job with the trigger in both modes of fire.I have striker guns and SAO guns,but that little Smith is the one I grab the most when going out into the world.

 

[upptick]

I have a Sig p229 and an HK p2000sk but they are the double-action-only models (DAK and LEM). I like having a consistent trigger pull and the added safety of being able to block the hammer when re-holstering. And then there's the psychological benefit of not carrying a firearm with a charged striker that's always ready to mysteriously break loose on its own volition (suddenly getting some side-eye from the Sig p320)....

 

[Old Dog]

The primary home-defense handgun.

 

[Tallball]

I'm a revolver guy. If I did keep a semiauto instead of a revolver for my nightstand gun, it would definitely be my CZ75. I have plenty of striker pistols and like most of them fine, but I like the CZ75 better. (It's made of steel, it has a hammer, pretty good bludgeon, etc.)

 

[Zaydok Allen]

I carry DA/SA in the woods. CC is a SAO P938.

 

[InTheSwamp]

I carry DA/SA in the woods

My woods carry pistols are also DA/SA: HK45 or CZ P09.

 

[cfullgraf]

For those that hate the DA/SA first shot trigger HK makes a pistol for you. LEM or law enforcement mod gives you the same trigger tension every shot. The only difference is the take up on the first shot is considerably longer. There's even a light LEM trigger. I'd say my P-30 is about 5 lbs. every shot.

Some people hate those triggers, and HK's, but I find them to be the DA/SA first shot fix.

While currently I prefer my P30SK-V3 (DA/SA), I have a P30SK-LEM trigger. I’m not completely convinced it meets my safety goals but it is a bunch safer than a striker fired gun in my opinion.

So, what floats your boat may not float mine. I can respect that but respect my choices as well.

 

[WheelGunMan]

I carried an HK P30SK for a time. For concealability I replaced it with a Micro pistol. It is pretty much relegated to a shoulder harness carry now and it goes with me on long trips.

 

[tuckerdog1]

Yep.

 

[Doorstopper]

No one is telling you to adapt to anything, and there's really no adapting necessary, as they all are pretty much the same.

There really is no effort here either, but if you care in the least about being well educated and well rounded, you would think you'd be willing to put in the little bit of effort needed, to at least know what they "really" are, and to know what to expect when you shoot them, just like anything else.

I just think it funny how people get all crazy about things they readily admit they know nothing about, but its "bad" simply because they say so, and usually based on basically nothing.

Kind of reminds me about how Jeff Cooper always was bad mouthing the DA guns, calling them things like "crunchentickers" and saying stupid stuff like "use the DA trigger to "cock" the gun". All BS, for anyone who knows how to shoot a DA gun, but he liked SA guns, and youre an idiot if you use a DA gun.

If you cant shoot anything you might happen to have to pick up, reasonably well, its "still" not the guns fault. All the excuses and complaints are entirely on you.

 

[Doorstopper]

I dry fire all da sa guns in da mode easy Peasy with laser. No problem. On target easy.
That’s My way. Safe easy and no big deal. Shooting target easy. And I’m no expert .

 

[J-Bar]

CZ 2075 RAMI P by my bed.

I sleep just fine.

 

[AntiSpin]

I have a beautiful Astra Constable (just like James Bond's carry gun : - ) in .380 that I keep where I can get it easily at 3 a.m. if necessary.

I really like the DA/SA feature and the decock lever.

It's also very nice that they added a truly gorgeous dark-blue finish.

(I only pack it if I'm going to a black-tie affair. James would be pleased. ( : - )

Ordinarily carry my faithful .45 cal. 1911.

 

[worker]

I went to Glocks when Sig stopped supporting the DA/SA guns I had, such as the P224 and P239. They claim they still support those models. But if they won't sell me magazines or recoil springs, I'd call that a creative use of the word "support".

Or the barrels.
Sig's support for guns they do not mass-produce anymore, sucks. It is as if they do not really care about folks who bought their stuff from 20 years ago.

 

[Brutus54]

My everyday carry is a FNX40 in 357 Sig. I also carry a Walther PPK/s in .380. Some days I carry both with me. Long time revolver shooter and they both feel comfortable to me.

 

[fastbolt]

Yep, I still own, carry and use my assortment of traditional double action (DA/SA) pistols. They're mostly S&W 3rd gen compact models chambered in 9, .40 & .45ACP, but I also have an older Ruger KP90DC and a couple SW99's (in original AS action).

I used to hear TDA guns sometimes called 'the thinking man's working gun', and having grown up being a SA & DA revolver and SA pistol shooter, that resonated with me. I carried one or another TDA duty weapon from '90 until '16, so I had plenty of opportunity to put many tens of thousands of rounds downrange in the course of serving as a LE firearms instructor and armorer. I regretted the passing of the venerable DA revolver, and then the TDA pistol, in general LE work ... but ... the striker-fired, 1-type of trigger pull weapons make it easier to train large groups of men and women who may not be interested in handguns or shooting more than is minimally required for work.

 

[fastbolt]

Or the barrels.
Sig's support for guns they do not mass-produce anymore, sucks. It is as if they do not really care about folks who bought their stuff from 20 years ago.

S&W is much the same. Once they drop a model from both their Commercial and LE/Gov catalog production, and declare it 'obsolete', they don't seem interested in investing much money to continue either producing parts, or ordering them produced by their various vendors. More's the pity, but there it is.

 

[halfmoonclip]

A popular gun on the Walther board is the P5. The decocker is right under the right thumb, so it is really easy to return to DA without shifting the grip. It also has an easy DA stroke.
Have to wonder if thumbing the hammer on the draw stroke doesn't make more sense than struggling with the long DA pull?
Moon

 

[JR24]

Have to wonder if thumbing the hammer on the draw stroke doesn't make more sense than struggling with the long DA pull?

In my opinion? No. It introduces a higher margin for error when working under stress and at speed, and also takes longer to get into your firing grip since you have to work the thumb back again.

Struggling with a DA pull can be resolved with dry fire and time, unless you can’t reach or don’t have the finger strength.

In that case, I suppose thumbing the hammer is more beneficial.

 

[docbrown]

Hunting, I carry either a Colt Model 357 6" or a 4" Security 6 in 357 and occasionally an EAA Witness in 9mm. Backpacking or hiking it is a M&P 40C (or 357 Sig or 9mm - conversion barrels for both). I think it is a good idea to practice with anything you can, but particularly what you plan on carrying.

 

[MikeInOr]

When I decided to start carrying a gun the only auto pistol I owned was a Ruger P944 (40 caliber P94). I spent a lot of time working to become proficient with it. Working on grip & stance, dry & live fire to learn the 2 different triggers. Probably not the easiest gun to learn on but it worked. Then I decided since striker fired pistols were the rage that must be the way to go. I bought a XD & went from there. I'm on my fourth or fifth carry gun since then. Kind of interesting anytime I pull that old Ruger out it seems to be a lot better than I remember. It must have improved over the years.

Then last weekend I was hanging out with some friends & one of them had a S&W 669. It shot really nice. I need to get back out with the old Ruger. I'm about half tempted to go back to carrying it but I will probably stick with my strikers. I guess I just find myself missing the old DA/SA guns. If you still carry & shoot one regularly what is it?

If you are proficient with DA/SA pistols then striker fired pistols are a piece of cake. Those that learn to shoot with striker fired pistols seem to turn out to be the ones that are trigger snobs because they never became proficient with a DA trigger pull. It is the first shot that counts most so you better be able to make an accurate first shot with a DA pull if you are going to own one.