WALKERs210
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Maybe Biden has a plan to just shoot througuht a door , might take out a liberla police officer, mayor coming over to visit, Would love Biden to tell me where he took training that you shoot thru a door.
Does More Than ONE Firearm make you a Possible Threat
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Better not come to my house then ... they will NOT be happy! Been a gun owner for 58 of my 68 years and have collected for most all of those 58 years!
BemidjiDweller
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Why do they call it an arsenal? He didn't manufacture the firearms nor the ammunition. Guess it's just more of the media not knowing the definition of the words they make a living by.
12131
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+1.
We are a threat...........to tyranny, as far as I'm concerned.
This is what I was thinking??? I haven't read the latest reports, Last I recall it was 5 guns and some ammo, and that equaled an arsenal?
I think I have more than that in my sock drawer. maybe an entire armory? Cache? heck I dont know..
These fools are trying to frame and define what 'normal' is. Then go after people who don't fit their mold. It's like the Supertramp 'Logical Song', but the liberals are the ones who are trying to make everybody conform and fit into a mold like 'good little citizens'. And if you don't fit that mold, you get turned into Soylent Green.
See, even old songs and movies predicted this kind of human behavior. It's nothing new, we just have to keep fighting it and remain vigilant.
See, even old songs and movies predicted this kind of human behavior. It's nothing new, we just have to keep fighting it and remain vigilant.
OilyPablo
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I actually know THE handguns I own. In the sense I know how to strip them down, etc. But ask me HOW MANY I own and I actually would need to count. That is really scary. I just stood up, turned around opened the safe, counted, adding the Mak I need to clean and my upstairs gun, I have 23 handguns. 9 rifles and 3 shotguns. No I'm not unlocking the munition locker and counting my ammo. Tens of thousands of rounds.
You will have to take my word on the rest of this as well. I am easy going, stable, but busy. I have a full time job and run two businesses. I support my local police, law abiding and generally conforming. I am NOT a prepper, yet we have the basics in case of a winter storm outage or an earthquake (the .gov tells us to do these things!). I pay large amounts of money in taxes. My family is stable. We attend church but we are not religious or extreme.
How am I exactly a threat Mr. Obama and company?
Perhaps only because we don't have the same world view?
I ask, is this what America has become?
I just stood up, turned around opened the safe, counted, adding the Mak I need to clean and my upstairs gun, I have 23 handguns. 9 rifles and 3 shotguns. No I'm not unlocking the munition locker and counting my ammo. Tens of thousands of rounds. You will have to take my word on the rest of this as well. I am easy going, stable, but busy. I have a full time job and run two businesses. I support my local police, law abiding and generally conforming. I am NOT a prepper, yet we have the basics in case of a winter storm outage or an earthquake (the .gov tells us to do these things!). I pay large amounts of money in taxes. My family is stable. We attend church but we are not religious or extreme.
How am I exactly a threat Mr. Obama and company?
Perhaps only because we don't have the same world view?
I ask, is this what America has become?
stonecutter2
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Double plus ungoodnew reports are making it pretty obvious that owning a gun makes you a bad person and actually using them makes you double plus bad.
1k rounds of ammo is an arsenal? really? Someone who goes to the range 5 times a year can go through that easily.
(or should that be double plus ungood, been a while
Double plus bad? Reported for thoughtcrime!
stonecutter2
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Yeah, there's this idea being pushed by the media, and even law enforcement, that owning several guns and rounds of ammo somehow makes one evil, or ready to commit murder or massacres, it's totally ridiculous.
There is no "too many." The only way I could see telling someone they have "too many" guns is when they have to declare bankruptcy by buying guns instead of paying bills or something.
The media keeps presenting people who buy multiple guns and lots of ammo as freaks of nature, hellbent on destruction as evidenced by what they have at their homes. When in reality, it can be the same inventory many have (and even small by comparison!) but THAT doesn't make for sensational reporting.
The recent goofball at the University of Florida who pulled a fire alarm to begin his murder spree, but then retreated into his room and offed himself (thank God), had 1,000 rounds of ammo or so. The cop (UCF Chief Richard Beary) giving a press conference said "I don't think ... you purchase 1,000 rounds of ammunition" without a plan, Beary said. "I don't think you do that as a joke." I don't even know what that's supposed to mean. As if anyone who buys a quantity of ammo is preparing for mass murder. Sickening and ignorant.
Quite frankly, I'm getting utterly exhausted as being painted in the media as a potential mass murderer or social freak for owning firearms and ammo. It's completely irresponsible.
I ordered 500 rounds for my Nagant revolver, what the hell does it matter? Ammo is hard to find for the Nagant, and I want to stock up for spring/summer/fall plinking so I'm not constantly scrounging when i want to hit the range. It's not a hard concept to grasp.
For one who is living in an area where there is small game, varmints, preditors, large game, upland bird, and waterfoul can one get by with ten firearms? I think not. Should someone or animal put me or my family in harms way the sporting firearms use would change.
Carl N. Brown
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My public library had an extensive bound magazine archive and I took the Readers Guide to Periodical Literature, subject: Firearms Legislation, and extensively researched gun control in the 1960s. The bogus arguments and outright lies, the smears of the character and nature of the typical gun, the misrepresentation of causes of crime and sources of criminal guns spraed today are the same as then. Nothing new has been offered, just the same old big city Sullivan Act dogma and disparagement of "gunnuts" and the "gunlobby" recycled from the 1960s.
SharpsDressedMan
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I am not shooting competitively at this time, but for a short while I tried to duplicate one local combat shooter's regimen, which was a thousand rounds a week. I loaded 2500 rounds of .45 and practiced for 2 1/2 weeks before a shoot, and came in second to him. Not having a lot of money (back then, if you loaded your own, that was something like $60-$75/1000 for .45 reloading components per week), I only did it to see how good I might be if I practiced like he did. That is, conservatively, 50 thousand rounds a year to shoot competitively at the national level. For people not familiar with guns and the shooting sports, they have no idea what a large amount of ammunition is, or that it doesn't really matter, and is no indicator of evil.
fehhkk
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The media refuses to believe that guns can be a hobby. So anyone stockpiling ammo, must be up to no good. They don't know the gun culture, basically.
Just remember, when reported in the media, if it's more than a single gun and an 'ammunition clip' worth of ammo, it's an 'arsenal'.
I pointed out to a friend of my wife's, who was screeching about some dude they caught near her in NYC with an 'arsenal' of 3 guns and 500 rounds of ammo, that that was a slow day at the range in most of America, that if it was .22 it could be a single box of ammo, and that I knew shotgunners that bought ammo by the pallet and were harmless to anything other than flying orange disks.
A) She's active duty military, so you'd think she knew better, without me saying anything.
B) Still screeched for more gun control.
At a certain point it's beyond trying to reason with people.
I pointed out to a friend of my wife's, who was screeching about some dude they caught near her in NYC with an 'arsenal' of 3 guns and 500 rounds of ammo, that that was a slow day at the range in most of America, that if it was .22 it could be a single box of ammo, and that I knew shotgunners that bought ammo by the pallet and were harmless to anything other than flying orange disks.
A) She's active duty military, so you'd think she knew better, without me saying anything.
B) Still screeched for more gun control.
At a certain point it's beyond trying to reason with people.
This is exactly what is going on. They look at a few of their liberal friends and one may have a gun and enough ammo for it so they can say they hunt, but for those of us that actually hunt, we know that because of all the regulations we can't own one gun. You have to have a shotgun for bird, a rim-fire for small game and a rifle for small game. Heck if you are trying to use a shotgun for everything you need more than 20 shells because you cant shoot turkey and deer with the same thing. Then if you start talking about self defense then the liberal have to move the argument from real world to their tiny view so that they can claim that government will protect us all and therefore you don't need to protect yourself. (Come to think about it isn't that what hunting is about? Providing for ourselves rather than relying on government.) The key to defeating liberals is to move the argument back to reality. Defeat the premise of their argument, don't argue in their terms. Unfortunately many people have these ideas ingrained in them at a young age and are not capable of thinking logically. In school kids are taught to fear guns, and that guns are evil. When these kids grow up we can't convince them logically that a gun it a tool, just like a screwdriver or hammer, that can be used to build or tear down. All they can think is evil gun.
Carl N. Brown
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No joke. I shoot modern military, vintage military at the local club, and have learned (years before the current panic) that supply of, say, new factory .30 carbine ammo, is seasonal, and this years production may be based on last years sales so there will be periodic shortages. So you buy and stockpile when the ammo is available at reasonable prices. Now, the match season is 7 months, matches in each discipline, modern pistol and rifle and vintage pistol and rifle, 3 targets, ten rounds each, for score. That's 30 x 4 x 7 = 840 rounds just for score, not counting practice and sight checks. Then a trip to the mountains to meet up with the cousins for hiking, ATVing, BBQ, listening to the NASCAR race over a battery-powered radio, and target practice, usually lots of .22 LR (easy to go through a brick of 500 rounds). What a lot of us do with a bulk buy of ammo is probably not in Chief Beary's radar.
22-rimfire
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Clandestine ammunition manufacturer.
Skylerbone
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I purchased and took possession of 2,900 rounds this week alone in a single caliber, one of two I own that I can't reload for. I wouldn't care to inventory ammo boxes for the other dozen or so calibers I do load for, suffice it to say I qualify as an "arsenal". Listing everything I own in a sig. line would violate THR rules on length.
No question some entity has us all on a watch list for exercising our 1A and 2A Rights, just the sort of entity those Rights were written in opposition to. It's disheartening to see any percentage of our fellow Citizens supporting a stance in direct opposition to our Constitution. I cannot fathom that any large number support the hidden agenda of populace control knowingly, which leaves ignorance to describe the lion's share. That should give us hope that they may be enlightened if we do our part.
No question some entity has us all on a watch list for exercising our 1A and 2A Rights, just the sort of entity those Rights were written in opposition to. It's disheartening to see any percentage of our fellow Citizens supporting a stance in direct opposition to our Constitution. I cannot fathom that any large number support the hidden agenda of populace control knowingly, which leaves ignorance to describe the lion's share. That should give us hope that they may be enlightened if we do our part.
+1.
The whole 'arsenal' thing just goes right along with playing on people's ignorance by the anti's. The latest headlines about the CT shooter firing 154 rounds in 5 minutes is just such an example. They play that number like it's huge or something, but a bolt action operator can sustain that rate of fire, with aimed shots (about 1 every two seconds). Obviously your average bolt gun doesn't have a 30 round mag, but one or two do. They make it sound like a machine gun, and make it sound scary. Emotional effect. Our only counter is education.
OptimusPrime
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He didn't use it but yes he did, he had one in his car. He was pulled over because he had no plates on his car and the trooper saw the pistol in the vehicle. He did not have a valid carry license in that state. That reason and that reason alone is why he was arrested, and therefore already in the jail cell when the pictures of John Doe #1 went on the screens.
I bring it up because it is an EXCELLENT example of enforcing the laws that we already have rather than creating new ones.
I think they're just trying to paint a picture of an 'unhealthy interest in firearms'.
A normal person can have one gun, but if you have multiple guns, you're clearly obsessed with them, and thus are a massacre waiting to happen.
They think guns = violence, so if you own a lot of guns you must be a violent person.
No 'sane' person would 'need' more than one gun and so forth.
A normal person can have one gun, but if you have multiple guns, you're clearly obsessed with them, and thus are a massacre waiting to happen.
They think guns = violence, so if you own a lot of guns you must be a violent person.
No 'sane' person would 'need' more than one gun and so forth.
Well the president of North Korea, said he is getting ready to kill all of us, and launch missiles into the U.S..
I am hoping he sees us as a threat, and those Mid eastern countries like Iran who keep threatening to launch missiles into our country. The Koreans showed a target map of the US. including Texas.
I am hoping he sees us as a threat, and those Mid eastern countries like Iran who keep threatening to launch missiles into our country. The Koreans showed a target map of the US. including Texas.
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