Don't bring a gun to a sword fight....MN

[hillbilly]

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S18123.html?cat=1

Police are investigating reports of severed fingers, after a stabbing in the Uptown area overnight.

Police arrived at 31st and Lyndale Aves. S. in Minneapolis around 3 a.m., finding two victims that appeared to have been stabbed with a two-and-a-half foot Samurai-style sword. The two victims were taken to Hennepin County Medical Center.

Later, two more suspects then showed up at HCMC with stab wounds, and police took those people into custody. The suspects taken into custody were identified as Hossem Chalbi, 18, and Mohammed Khalil, 29.

"I saw the first guy rolling down the stairs at me completely on fire with blood," witness Matthew Tellfair told 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS. "I did see an EMT coming past with a bag of fingers in their hand saying 'we're going to try and match these up.'"

"And there was one guy with a bloody sword...No joke," added witness Martin Knotsmith. "It was over two feet long and of the Samurai-style, slightly curved, very sharp."

According to police reports, two armed men stormed the apartment with a gun, and a scuffle ensued. One of the victims had a Samurai sword in the apartment and the sword somehow became part of the conflict.

All people involved have non-life threatening injuries.

 

[tellner]

Good on the defender.

 

[Geno]

Sounds like my neighbor

Last year, a drug-addict broke into my neighbor's house while he was asleep. My neighbor, who does middle ages reanactments, drew his literally 4-foot long "sword" and went after the guy. The doper looked at him and said (with crowbar in hand):

"Ooops, looks like I got the wrong house!"

The neighbor responds while pointing the sword:

"You have no idea how wrong!"

A chase ensues and he pursues the BG across the house, out the door to his car and down the road. Neighbor got the plates, called the county PD and they found the guy at ANOTHER house 2 miles away, broken into. Some people just never learn.

Doc2005

 

[carpettbaggerr]

One of the victims had a Samurai sword in the apartment and the sword somehow became part of the conflict.

With a sack full of severed fingers, it doesn't really sound like he was a victim, does it?

 

[stiletto raggio]

Just goes to show that old technology is no less lethal. Weapons have evolved a lot in the past 2000 years, but human physiology has not.

I wouldn't pick a katana as a primary defensive weapon, but inside a house it may be nearly as effective as a handgun.

 

['Card]

One of the victims had a Samurai sword in the apartment and the sword somehow became part of the conflict.

Somehow became part of the conflict?!

LOL!

How about "One of the intended victims whipped out a sword and commenced to cuttin' on mo-fo's!"

 

[pete f]

It was more a cavalry type sabre, apparently victim was in apartment with bad guys came in, vic grabs sword and BG tries to grab it too, ends up pulling sheath off blade then hits vic with metal sheath, only to point of enraging vic. who commences swinging around like Custer at the indians.

EMT was seen on film with baggie with SEVERAL fingers and thumbs on ice on way to hospital.

Vic/GG on camera with face hidden showing a few wounds/injuries but camera on carpet of apartment shows carpet soaked with blood. Walls spattered and blood trails going every way on stairs.

 

[loki.fish]

Well as I collect all types of weapons (mainly firearms and swords) I could see defending a home with a sword.

 

[JShirley]

I would take a wakizashi or the right kukuri at close range.

If it'll take down a tree (my kuks), it'll take down a BG.

J

 

[p35]

Just wondering, John-

Did you take a kuk to Afghanistan? Are you seeing any good Khyber knives around?

 

[Glock_10mm]

What are good sword companies...Is cold steel good, a tanto (IX) I got from them looks pretty solid and I've been debating dropping $500 on something bigger.

 

[4v50 Gary]

These are the times when you'd want the paramedics to respond very slowly. Let them bleed out a little. According to medical practice of the eighteenth century, it released the poisons that were in the blood. Maybe we should revive that practice since those "evil" thoughts will leave when the blood is completely drained from a criminal's body.

 

[loki.fish]

What are good sword companies...Is cold steel good, a tanto (IX) I got from them looks pretty solid and I've been debating dropping $500 on something bigger.

Marto is good. Hanwei by Paul Chen is probably my favorite. Both are expensive, Hanwei very much so. Hanwei swords are forged instead of mass produced in a factory....so they say.

 

[Glock_10mm]

Thanks for the info, I've been looking at paul chen and the prices are close to what I've been looking at on my high end. Thanks

PS - are the marto functional, they look like show but have a functional price tag, just want to check.

 

[loki.fish]

Some are and some aren't. I know their replica Highlander katana has an edge on it. The 5 Martos I have don't have an edge on them. They're mainly for show. The Clan MacLeod sword and 4 big 2 hand swords that are quite heavy.

As for the Paul Chen....I only have 1 of his, I believe it's the Bushido Katana, and it's by far my favorite sword. It's beautiful and extremely sharp. I've yet to find any sword that has an edge similar to it or looks anywhere close to as good as it does. If you can afford one, get one. I know there are other very nice hand forged katanas out there, but I've only found ones that cost well over $2000 USD and that's a bit much for me to pay for a sword. The $1000-$1100 I paid for the Paul Chen sword was about as high as I go.

 

[qlajlu]

How about something a little easier to swing in close quarters? Can be used aroung the house for other "odd jobs" too. http://www.woodmanspal.com/

 

[JShirley]

P35:

No. I didn't take any of my kuks. Despite my love for them, for combat use, I usually suggest a fixed blade of no more than 5". The truth is, except in a few specialized circumstances (I used to carry a kuk out in the field when I was with a mortar squad, to cut lanes to our sight poles), a soldier's knife should be lightweight and small. It'll be used for all kinds of tasks, and the chances of using it in combat are extremely slight. (I'm aware of only two instances of Allied troops using knives in action in the last few years.)

That said, I purchased this knife a few days ago...and no, I don't intend to carry it here. I'm just a knife addict.

John

 

[Glock_10mm]

I've got a Khurka from them^^^^! Its really made of a decent steel as I've chopped everything in site and barely lost an edge! You'll probably be very pleased with it!

 

[JShirley]

Thanks. My experience with HI kuks is similar.

 

[geim druth]

I'll second qlajlu:

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4933/woodsmanspal.html

 

[goon]

My Angus Trim 1321 will hack water filled gallon jugs and laundry detergent jugs in half with little difficulty. IIRC, the blade is 32 inches long and it weighs about 2 lb 11 oz. Wicked peice of equipment if I could find someone to train me in its use.
And right now it is bloody sharp.
Can't wait for my 22" falchion from Angus Trim that should be arriving soon.
I will probably wind up only being able to keep one, but wheter you are talking longsword or falchion, you are still talking about something that was meant to remove peices of meat.