Don't say I didn't warn you all (Kennedy bill)

[romma]

They need to Micro-Stamp Drunk Driving Vehicular Manslaughterers...

 

[dtown240]

As far as Microstamping goes, I can't imagine he believes that this will actually solve a single crime. Maybe he wants somebody to challenge this in court, go through the gauntlet of appeals, and eventually make it to the Supreme Court of the United States. In the eventuality that this could occur, they COULD hold the stance that requiring ineffective technology that institutes an impromptu ban due to manufacturers withdrawl of product, constitutes a 2nd Amendment infringement. That would prevent other states from enacting similar frivolous firearms laws.

That Arnie, what a smart guy :|

Keep in mind that he can't run for Federal offices because he's not a natural born citizen; if he wants to change national laws, he's got to do it in a roundabout way.

 

[armoredman]

I would be against guns also if I were a felon rapist alcoholic like Teddy and family.

Becomes, for the bumper sticker,
I would be against guns also if I were a felon rapist murdering alcoholic like Senator Teddy Kennedy. They're bad for business"
Just a thought.

 

[Oohrah]

Well, many years ago I worked there when it was spelled with
a C instead of a K. Perhaps too late for a majority of sheeple
to change. For one thing manufactures do not have the ability
yet to comply with the law. Are Kalif. people allowed hand guns?
Not far back the chinese sent a boatload of FA AKs to SF for
gangs and got caught. The ban on import ammo gy the same
country brought on a confication of truck loads of of C. ammo
that had to be returne as it was pre ban stuff. Your tax dollar
at work. Wonder if the illegal immigrants will have trouble being
armed.
Don't know, it appears to be many problems changing from the
Soviet Republic of California to the Repuplic of Mexico. Ever notice
how simular the firearms laws are to each other? To my southern
neighbors, Sorry I don't have an answer for you.:banghead:

 

[ThomasT]

First off, you can't reliably grind off the serial number on a gun and make it untraceable. The cops have an acid that makes the numbers visible again. The number stamping changes the molecules in the metal. The right way to do it is to dimple the numbers with a punch first and then grind them off.

Second, does anyone else think that gun mounted brass catchers might be a marketable add on?

 

[sublimaze41]

Relax.... it's only one small step....


Does this not smack of sarcasm??



Of course it's an incremental process for the anti's. An outright ban would never work. Nobody has to tell me about pseudo gun control, I live in NEW YORK. Remember the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban??? Well we still have that and we also have a junior senator whose name just happens to be Clinton.

 

[fletcher]

The cops have an acid that makes the numbers visible again. The number stamping changes the molecules in the metal.

Residual stresses / plastic deformation affect the steel as a result of the stamping. The acid will etch the stressed areas at a different rate than the surrounding area, revealing the number. Yes, if they were determined enough, they could find what was on there. Although, you'd have to be very determined with a punch to change it sufficiently.

 

[Scorpiusdeus]

I would be against guns also if I were a felon rapist alcoholic like Teddy and family.

While I have no love for the man he was not a rapist and neither was his nephew if you believe in the criminal justice system. Does innocent until prevon guilty only apply to those we like?

We as gun owners always espousing the constitution better damn well stand by all of it or none of it.

Now, if you want to trash the man, use something like this: Kennedy is the youngest of nine children of Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. and Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, a prominent Irish-American family. He attended the Fessenden School, and later Milton Academy and entered Harvard College in 1950, where he resided in Winthrop House. Kennedy was also a member of the Owl Club. He was expelled from Harvard in May 1951 after he was caught cheating on an ethics examination.

 

[Dr. Peter Venkman]

While I have no love for the man he was not a rapist and neither was his nephew if you believe in the criminal justice system. Does innocent until prevon guilty only apply to those we like?

The criminal justice system does not ultimately prove or disprove one's actions. If I murder someone, and yet am not convicted in a court of law, does that make me somehow a non murderer? Absolutely not.

California: leading the tidal wave of legislation across the states since, forever.

 

[CountGlockula]

What ever happened to...

the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

 

[Elm Creek Smith]

Does innocent until prevon guilty only apply to those we like?

I guess we could ask Mary Jo Kopechne. Well, I guess not.

With a drill press, you could cut the serial number right out of a Glock, etc. Tough to bring a serial number out if the metal isn't there anymore.

ECS

 

[S&Wfan]

Think about this . . .

A BG shoots someone, picks up his brass and then replaces the spent brass with the same caliber of brass picked up from the discards at an LEO range . . . and has a huge laugh.

The "murdering" officer traced to the number on the cartridge is hundreds of miles away with his weapon at the time of the murder and could NOT have fired that shot from that weapon.

I wonder how that case would go down.

"Guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt," combined with stupid, self-serving laws written by lawyers FOR lawyers will help continue the flow of wealth from the common folks to their lawyers!

There are already plenty of stupid laws on the books, written by our lawyer/legislators to increase business for those in their profession. This may be a much bigger "crime" indeed!:banghead:

 

[Scorpiusdeus]

With regard to Kennedy I think there is enough dirt on them without us having to fabricate anymore.

 

[Guitargod1985]

Teddy Boy is getting up there in years and having some health issues......maybe with a little luck the man upstairs will soon decide that its time for him to take a "Dirt Nap".....

Or MAYBE he'll go on a binge with Feinstein, Schumer and Mikulski and take them for a Bridge Tour in DC.....

I just about choked on my hamburger reading that.

 

[yesit'sloaded]

What ever happened to...

the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

People like us stood around and talked about how bad it was instead of protesting while lawfully armed.

 

[Pigspitter]

My gun shop owner (good one) tell me that the microstamping will wear off after only 100-300 rounds.

 

[Big Boomer]

so what about those ranges that want to "keep" your fired brass as policy? So I guess one upside now is that because the brass belongs to the gun they wont be able to resell it

 

[Car Knocker]

My gun shop owner (good one) tell me that the microstamping will wear off after only 100-300 rounds.

How did he determine this?

 

[Fred West]

Now, if you want to trash the man, use something like this: Kennedy is the youngest of nine children of Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr. and Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy, a prominent Irish-American family.

Would that be the same Joe Kennedy who was Ambassador to Britain at the start of the war, who sought an audience with Hitler in 1940 "to bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany", who argued strongly against giving Britain any aid as "Democracy is finished in England".
What a nice man, just like his son.
I can't believe Ted Kennedy is still in politics after the things he's done.

Fred.

 

[Gary Frost]

I think a good defense atty could shoot holes all through the microstamping nonsense. Reasonable doubt thingy would work very well there. Just think of the millions of spent casings laying around after every weekend. At the pistol matches I attend I pick up as much brass as I shot, they might not be mine, they may have been fired by 6 or more other firearms.

Maybe the way to defeat this is to trade brass with several people and get the case cluttered with s/n's. It would be worthless technology for LEO and probably inadmissable in court.

 

[jungleroy]

Arnold is married to Maria, whose family is family of the Kennedys.
No surprise to me, really.