Don't want the kool-aid, don't want the kool-aid...ah screw it.

[speaksoftly]

So here's the deal. I've never liked Glocks. I've never owned a Glock but have shot friends on multiple occasions. I could never shoot well with the grip angle, I never liked the ergonomics, and they're quite possibly the ugliest pistols known to man. Also, I'm a .40 shooter and 99% of the exploding Glock stories I've heard have been with .40 caliber models.

That being said, I'm going to do my best to give Glock more than a sporting chance. Glocks are like Honda's in that almost everyone has one. This being the case, I really don't like the fact that I'm not on good terms with Glock as there's always a chance that I'll need to shoot one and shoot one well. So I'm thinking of buying one. One good thing I've noticed about them is that they tend to hold their value so I don't think I'll lose much if I hate it and need to sell it. I'm going to look for a Glock 23 model (4 gen or 3 gen RTF2 model) and purchase when I can save the funds unless someone wants to rent one haha. Regardless of how things go, I'm going to put 500 rounds through it. I've shot 50 rounds at a time through friends Glocks before at most and think that more rounds may help me get used to it. I'll update when I get the Glock to the range (have to wait till my "FS" pistols sell) and let you guys know what happens. Should be interesting and I'm hoping that I'll be surprised at just how tasty the kool-aid is.

-Marcos
Thoughts are always welcome

 

[AJChenMPH]

I could never shoot well with the grip angle, I never liked the ergonomics...

I think those, right there, are two damned good reasons not to get one. And I carry a G26 as my daily carry. Just my $0.02.

 

[speaksoftly]

I think, right there, are two damned good reasons not to get one. And I carry a G26 as my daily carry. Just my $0.02.

I'm honestly just wondering if I can get used to it. I don't like that I'm not proficient with Glock or 1911 grip angles. Also, every time someone mentions the Glock grip angle as a reason for not buying, a Glock owner states how minuscule of an issue this is. I want to see if it can be overcome and thus far I've only given 50 round efforts. Also, I won't just be still-stand shooting. Anyone can angle a gun towards a bullseye given enough time. I'm going to see if I can be a bit more proficient with the gun. Run-n-guns, holster draw shots, and other more active types of practice should tell just how "used to" the Glock I'm really getting.

 

[EddieNFL]

I want to see if it can be overcome and thus far I've only given 50 round efforts.

All it takes is training.

But at this point, I'm afraid it would take me more time than I have left to make the transition, so I'll stick with what's worked for the last 37 years.

 

[JoeMal]

I think you're making the right choice. Give 'em a fair try, like you said. Also like you said, you won't loose much if you do end up selling it.

But keep in mind what you are possibly getting yourself into... Glocks are like Lays potato chips...

 

[Texas_XD]

I'm going to look for a Glock 23 model (4 gen or 3 gen RTF2 model)

I like the full size Glocks in these two Gen's as the compact versions with finger grooves and I just don't do well. I shoot my G22 Gen3 RTF2 very well as the aggressive grip texture REALLY helps overall. If you have largish fingers like me, this may cause instant dislike. I'm forced to either mod the grooves off or buy Gen2's for the G23/G19 versions. Gen4's are still "newish" and I'm avoiding them till others finish "field testing" them for me, especially with issues cropping up in the G17 Gen4's.

Also, I'm a .40 shooter and 99% of the exploding Glock stories I've heard have been with .40 caliber models.

And 50% of those are "I know a guy who's 3rd cousin heard from his neighbor.." stories. Avoid reloads and handloads unless you're VERY skilled at it and you should be fine. .40's are my fav caliber too so I understand your concern because of the non fully supported chamber. And, NO, I am not a "Glock is the end all, be all" type.. I just respect the platform and it IS widely used by many many people.

 

[oldfool]

will wait for feedback with honest interest

runs a tad contrary to my favorite broken record theme, re: "shootability" and personal fit above all else
and me not a Glock or Hi-Point fanboy (better you than me to try this one), but it's not like I have never been wrong before, trust me on that much

other than the sad sorry flame games, this post and Justin's shootout post (meaning his intent), good stuff
what gun forums ought to be about
closed minds learn nothing, no pain, no gain, etc.

THANKS !

 

[Sapper771]

I have found that the more I train with my Glock 17/19/26, the more the grip and grip angle feels "normal" to me. IMO, it is a training issue.

Due to my current job, I have to use/train/carry Glocks. Not saying that is bad, I do like my Glocks, but I like other pistols as well. The true appeal of Glocks is their simplicity and reliability. I have been around a lot of Glocks in different calibers(mostly G22's), never seen a serious problem yet. The only problems I have seen were due to old beat up magazines in need of a new spring and follower.

I am glad to see you giving them another try. They are a good platform, but the are not for everyone. If you don't like it, you should be able to sell it pretty quickly. At least you gave it a chance.

Good Luck

 

[PT1911]

I, historically, do not like Glocks at all.. well that was until I walked into my local shop and came across a Glock 24C for 550.... that is more than just a little bit tempting.... it and a long slide 17 are the only Glocks I really have any interest in.

 

[MikePaiN]

speaksoftly...you must be pretty bored with your guns or shooting in general to purposely go out and buy a gun you know you don't like and can't shoot well....

 

[speaksoftly]

speaksoftly...you must be pretty bored with your guns or shooting in general to purposely go out and buy a gun you know you don't like and can't shoot well....

Doesn't take boredom to want to challenge your reservations about something. I want to see if I can like them and as you say, "Let the Journey begin."

 

[W.E.G.]

 

[FTSESQ]

Ok a few things here:

I've never liked Glocks. I've never owned a Glock but have shot friends on multiple occasions.

1. I hate, repeat, hate Glocks...But I love my G19. Its ugly as sin, and feels like poo, but I shoot it really well. In fact, I shoot it better than some of my guns that I love.

I could never shoot well with the grip angle, I never liked the ergonomics, and they're quite possibly the ugliest pistols known to man.

2. If you can't shoot it well, than that's a horse of a different color. If you don't shoot something well, than you probably shouldn't buy it.

Also, I'm a .40 shooter and 99% of the exploding Glock stories I've heard have been with .40 caliber models.

3. Ok, I hate the .40S&W, but it the Glock's defense, most of these Ka Booms were probably due to shooting lead in a Poly rifled barrel. Allegedly, the lead builds up in the bbl and over pressurizes what is already close to a max load... that's the rumor

 

[speaksoftly]

If you can't shoot it well, than that's a horse of a different color.

I said I hadn't shot it well...not that I can't. The goal is to find out if the bad ergos, blegh trigger, and strange angle of the Glock can be trained past and the pistol can be one that I learn to love.

 

[Hk Dan]

Grip angle: As my dear old German Grossmutte once said: "You get used to hanging if you hang long enough". Practice, and it will become "normal". You will come to see it as the gun's great advantage, in fact. As a former 1911/HK guy, that's what happened to me!

The grip angle is a serious aid in shot recovery. Having your wrist at a severe angle--at it's natural limt, nearly--causes the gun to snap right back on target. There ain't no play, it hits the 'stop' and it's on target. What's not to like about that?

Ugly: Yeah, they're utilitarian. They ain't exactly a high point, but they ain't no Venus De Milo either. Come cleaning time, you'll appreciate the minimalist tendency. 36 parts on the whole gun, including the mag. The major parts look like an aircraft carrier flight deck--minimal nooks and crannies, no argument about having the barrel bushing in the right spot or the barrel key up or down, they just sorta go together. Easily.

If you want to mod 'em up, you can. Doesn't really hurt their reliability unless you get completely stupid. You don't need to know if you need a ramped or non-ramped barrel for a caliber conversion, and you'll never need an extended beavertail to prevent slide bite.

.40 caliber kabooms: I've seen a Sig 1911, a Wilson 1911, a P228, a PX4, and a Kimber blow up. For all the falderall, I haven't seen a GLOCK blow up (not saying it doesn't happen). I think it's due to reloading bad ammo more than a tendency with a given gun, and .40 is a high pressure round. Margins of safety are slimmer--screw the pooch on weighing a charge and yes, your gun my be the victim. Now, on ALL of those, the shooter had nothing but his pride injured, and the Sig 1911 literally blew in half. It was singularly the best testament to gun construction that I'd ever seen.

Shooting factory ammo, you'll have a lifetime of happy shooting with your GLOCK in .40 cal. If the worst does happen, expect to be unhurt, and expect GLOCK to replace the damaged parts.

 

[HuntAndFish]

By all means get one. My prediction is that after several months of shooting it you will see how easy it is to shoot well, it won't give you a bit of trouble, and you will like it.

 

[Dookie]

I went round and round about what handgun to buy. I wanted ONE that I could carry in the woods. The reason I did not choose a Glock has nothing to do with the way it looks, who cares if it is ugly, it works and works excellent. I did not buy one because of the grip angle, it points at the ceiling, it actually hurt my wrist when I tried to align the sites.
I ended up with an XDm 40, I love it, super accurate, hi capacity, yadda yadda. One day I was in the LGS and they had a G21. Picked it up and the sites line up perfectly. I don't know what changed.

So guess what I want now.

 

[Balrog]

I could never shoot well with the grip angle, I never liked the ergonomics...

Maybe there is something wrong with your hands, and not the grip angle.

 

[FTSESQ]

I said I hadn't shot it well...not that I can't. The goal is to find out if the bad ergos, blegh trigger, and strange angle of the Glock can be trained past and the pistol can be one that I learn to love.

OK... Point taken. But the first time I picked one a Glock, I was DOB accurate and quick. Now, this was a very strange thing for me. I'm a 1911/ USP guy, so to instantly shoot something so different was a mind blower. To be honest, I didn't want to like the Glock because it is so ugly and soulless and gray and blah and... ugly. Also, it has no hammer or safety (that little do hickie in the trigger is not a safety). So every fiber of my being wanted to hate it, and looked for a reason to dislike it, but, when the chips are down, I shoot it accurately and fast, and it is very reliable.

That said... If the SHTF, I'm grabbing my 1911 or USP45

 

[Quickstrike]

Maybe there is something wrong with your hands, and not the grip angle.

Seriously, most people just complain because the front strap area feels blockier compared to their favorite pistols.

 

[pvthouse]

I guess the ergo's are diff for everyone. I pick up my g21 and the sights line up perfectly every time with no concious effort needed. And to me the ergo's on the .45 USP felt all out of wack. But many thanks to the OP for trying to approach glocks with an open mind. A few months ago I couldn't believe it when I found mine nib for 464 otd. Gotta love LE pricing with that little blue sticker.

 

[Manco]

Wow, I actually like Glocks, but ended up buying a similar gun that suited me slightly better, and I have no desire to buy a Glock. And here we have somebody who doesn't seem to like Glocks, and even thinks that they might be dangerous in .40 S&W, but cannot resist the urge to own one. People really are different, aren't they? There's nothing wrong with that, but I just don't get it.

 

[Setzer77]

The only thing really wrong with Glocks is all the ridiculous hype and fanboys. The .40 problem also has to do with the fact that the weapon was originally designed around 9mm, whereas newer guns like the M&P, USP, FNP, etc were designed to take .40 from the get go. I'm neither a Glock lover or hater, but I chose a 26 to carry because it was the only weapon that really met all my requirements. I take it for what it is. Fortunately, the grip angle and trigger has always agreed with me, and I tend to shoot them better than anything else I've owned. If you hate it, sell it. But there's nothing wrong with giving it an honest chance.

 

[Maj Dad]

Like the OP, I, too, resisted sipping of the hemlock. I have a slicked-up, tuned-up, gussied-up Combat Commander that I tuck in & say good-night to, but this spring I found a new M21 with no box & 1 mag for $440. Since my buddy has been fondling his M21 for several years and has kept haranguing me with tales of its exceptional performance, I tipped the cup. Now, if I were to have grab something in a "failure is not an option" situation, it will be the M21 from my nightstand. Accuracy is superb, function is boringly reliable and with some spring & connecter changes, the trigger is about 3 lbs & just perfect. There must be opiates in the kool aid...

 

[buck460XVR]

I'm honestly just wondering if I can get used to it. I don't like that I'm not proficient with Glock or 1911 grip angles.

Most every gun I've owned and sold and/or traded for another is because it didn't "fit". Didn't matter if it was a long gun or a handgun. Many times I took the same view and altho the firearm felt awkward the first time I held it, because of other attributes...... I thought I could get "used" to it. Never happened....not once. Always, after many rounds downrange and much time and monies spent on practice, I admitted to myself that my first impressions were correct, got rid of the gun and moved on. First thing I tell folk when they ask for advice on a new handgun is to get the best quality gun that you can afford and the one that feels most like a natural extension of your hand. YEMD