Don't worry...He's shooting a Weatherby!

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Disclaimer,
Ok let me make this PERFECTLY CLEAR...I AM NOT TRASHING ON WEATHERBY RIFLES with this post. If you give me any crap what so ever about me being a Weatherby thrasher I'm am going to hunt you down and give you an E-Wedgie via this web site. Unless you are shooting a Japanese Mark V in 7MM Rem with a Tasco scope and see through rings then I might be trashing you just a little bit.;)
End of Disclaimer you may proceed.


Ok so I just got done with 4th season in which I was armed with an either sex elk tag, a wall tent a diff locked chained up jeep and well worn pair of Schnee's winter boots.

It was a tough hunt in that it was too warm the first two days and then snowed over three feet of snow the last two. So anyway there I was walking at least six to eight hours a day busting my but. I'd had several missed shot opportunities due to my own carelessness, crunchy snow and general bad luck.

The last morning of the hunt I threw the jeep into four low chained up all four tires locked in both axles and proceeded to head to some new and mostly unobtainable ground. As the sun rose I found myself narrowly clinging onto a narrow treacherous jeep trail heading into some seriously steep and unforgiving country and doing so while pushing through a good two to three feet of fresh powder. We had gone about five miles when my hunting buddy Tim spotted a herd of elk up on the opposite side of the canyon. I found a pull out and had a look. There were twelve elk ten cows and two bulls, one of which was a shooter. My buddy had a cow tag this was perfect he'd take a cow and I'd try for the bull. My range finder told me that the closest cow was 639 yards away and cross canyon. After a quick gathering of minds a battle plan was put into place and we strapped on our packs grabbed our rifles and started for a clump of pine trees on the opposite side of the canyon which would put us in shooting range. We figured it would take us 30 to 40 minutes to reach as we'd have to drop several hundred feet in elevation just get to where we were climbing and closing distance on the herd. The terrain was steep as in 35 to 50 degrees of slope down and then up. this was going to be a hand and foot operation in dangerously slippery conditions. All this just to close three hundred yards of distance, hunting in the mountains is not a game for weak or mild mannered sometimes.


It was all going to be so sweet they were as good as in the bag when down the trail we hear a gunning engine and whining tires. Somebody was taking advantage of our tracks and heading up the trail. Suddenly appearing around the corner is a brand new white GMC Denali equipped with street tires chrome rims and two well heeled looking gentlemen driving it or romping it I should say up the trail at full throttle, snows flying and the wildly fish tailing SUV looks like an out of control supertanker running full speed up a narrow river. The thing is totally out of place for the setting.

As the two errant vehicle operators/"hunters" crest the rise and start heading for us at high speed the driver and I make eye contact the driver sees that my tracks end and further guns the engine building up speed for his now virgin track into yonder wood. He flys by me and makes it about 15 feet before he buries his multi ton SUV in the snow and starts to frantically gun his engine up and down digging himself deeper and deeper. I walk around the front of his rig and motion him to shut it down. He seems pleased that I am there rolling down his window he starts in a loud voice to greet me.

I put my finger to my lips and pleadingly gesture for him to quiet down. I then walk over and gently explain that we were just going to stalk some elk could he please keep it down for just a minute until we get into position. With which the driver jumps out of the vehicle and in a loud, full voice proclaims ELK WHERE? I DON'T SEE THEM! I point up to the hill where the once tranquil herd of elk are starting to get very nervous. When the driver finally sees the herd he shouts to his buddy JERRY, JESUS CHRIST, THE WHOLE HILLSIDE IS FULL OF ELK GET YOUR GUN!

Jerry in a panic starts throwing piled gear off his gun case and then starts desperately trying to unzip the case. I look at the driver and with no attempt to hide my disgust tell him "the nearest cow is 639 yards away the bull is standing at over 700 that's a bit far don't you think?" The driver looks at me in wonder and asks if I was a professional hunter. I reply that I've done some guiding why? He says "I've never seen somebody who can estimate range that accurately or that quickly before!" I start to explain that I have a laser range finder but think better of it and just let the comment pass. And then he said it...

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE RANGE, HE'S SHOOTING A WEATHERBY!

I start to protest but the elk are now beginning to move off so our plan to get within range is down the toilet. I once again strongly caution the the shooter that these elk are out of range. He has a frantic panicked look in his eyes and it's as if he didn't even know I was there. I step back and plug my ears as the long barreled .300 Weatherby with a muzzle break settles over the hood of his truck. The first pull of the trigger is a sharp click as Jerry has forgotten to load his rifle. He fumbles in his pocket and slams a round into the breech. KABOOOM As the hyper sonic Roy rifle rips a 180 gr bullet into the snow a full 3 feet below the bull and shatters the morning silence the elk freeze for moment and simply stand there in shock. I say in a loud voice you missed KABOOOM another sighter either high or low but a clean missKABOOOM another miss I mention that to the shooter that he's pissin in the wind to just just give it upKABOOOM He's frantically spraying bullets at the herd when amazingly on the eighth shot he connects with the bull. For a hopeful second I pray that the bull is going to go down but he doesn't he slumps and then recovers with a savage kicking of the hind foot at the gut.

I yell at Jerry "YOU GUT SHOT HIM you'd better get it done before he gets to the timber." Now from the other side of the car the driver joins into the volley with his Weatherby and Jerry is reloading as the bull is limping off into the timber. Jerry the shooter reloads yanks his rifle into position and jerks the trigger on a dead chamber. With that he demonstrates one of the worst flinches in the history of rifle shooting. He shuts both eyes and yanked the rifle off the hood and damn near jerked the thing into the snow. I look right at him and say "It's pretty tough to hit anything with a flinch like that." Jerry reloads and sends a few more hail marry rounds into the Rocky mountains. As the elk disappear into the Forrest on the opposite side of the Canyon I look over at the two shooters and calmly say "Well boys you just got your days work cut out for you."

The two look down at the steep slide they are going to have to get down and across and then the insanely steep open face they are going to have to climb. And the driver starts to argue that he didn't think Jerry hit that bull and that he can't see any blood in the snow. I simply pull out a pen and start writing their license plate number on the back of my glove. The driver grabs his pack out of the car and in a huff starts down the hill. I mention to Jerry that he'd better get this car out of the way or I will and he'd like it better if I didn't. Jerry couldn't budge the SUV. I crawled around him and continued up the canyon knowing full well that the days hunt was over.

About two hours later we returned to the spot, the Denali was gone with the evidence of a mighty struggle and the men's tracks went about half way up to where the the blood trail would have started then you could clearly see where one of them had slipped and tumbled all the way down to the bottom. Apparently that was to much and they gave up on the wounded bull.


I reported them to the DOW. I haven't heard back. :mad:
 
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Apart from all the other stuff about the story that makes me ill...

Do people REALLY think you can make a 650 yard shot with no holdover with a 300 Weatherby (or anything, for that matter)?
 
This brings to mind how after a few tough recoveries how now after more experience I stop to consider the animal recovery BEFORE I pull the trigger.
 
That's rough to read H&H :mad: I expect the DOW will help ensure I never run into these two idiots in future years. Thanks for taking the time and inclination to report them.

My hunting partner relayed what he saw up at Buffalo Peaks this year. Older guy (who stated he lived in the area) gut shot a young bull. Then worked on shooting with a texas heart shot to stop it as it walked away. Apparently it dropped. My partner talked to him and he didn't even have a knife on him. Nothing at all and asked my partner if he'd seen his son that morning. Partner said he didn't think so and the old man asked him to send him over if he ran into him. *** is wrong with people??? :mad:
 
YOU'RE TRASHING MY WEATHERBY'S! LOL. Man, what a couple of idiots, he should have missed all 20 times. Man there are some idiotic wanna be hunters out there.
 
I blame the long range hunting shows that are out there now that supposedly show you how to make 500-100yd shots. Idiots will watch this and not practice enough to see how to do it (the idiots on the show aren't much better, I've seen it twice, it takes them a few shots to hit the deer with their multi thousand dollar guns).

Sad deal.
 
In case you guys are wondering I did side hill the back side of the ridge where the bull disappeared but I couldn't get to where he was before dark and had to leave early the next morning. Unfortunately that poor old bull probably suffered for hours or even days before he died. Like has been said here it would have been a funny story if that bull didn't have to pay the price.

It seems that about 80% of the folks I meet in the woods are just about flat a$$ed incompetent these days. Maybe I'm just getting old and opinionated but it sure seems that way.
 
Heck I'm still steamed that they would even have a thought to just knock you atta the way and think nothing of chasing on their own right after you said you were just starting your stalk. I know it's public land and all but what ever happened to common curtousey.

I'd be wishing you luck and move on to find me some elk.
 
I blame the long range hunting shows that are out there now that supposedly show you how to make 500-100yd shots. Idiots will watch this and not practice enough to see how to do it
We have a winner.

I took a friend hunting twice (first and last time) he couldn't understand that he had to sit and wait for the deer. Hewould go out for about 1 1/2 hrs and come in and say he saw nothing. As he was saying that I grabbed my rifle and shot a deer under the treestand he was just in. (yes I hunt my back yard. The deer don't know to stay out)
 
Unless you are shooting a Japanese Mark V in 7MM Rem with a Tasco scope and see through rings then I might be trashing you just a little bit.

Dang, dude, you just described by buddies BAR in .300 Win Mag. Tasco 6x18 (or some asinine power level)-check..... see through rings because he can't see the whole deer in the scope inside 100 yards-check. ROFLMAO!

He doesn't like bolt guns, don't shoot fast enough follow ups when he misses the first two shots. :rolleyes:
 
A bunch of us just buried the luckiest hunter to walk last week. Died from lung cancer. I have grown up huting and fishing around him and he has made several shots during his years that make you just shack your head knowing only Rudy could do that.. The story. 10* morning in colorado all are hunting but rudy and the cook and he walks out side with his coffee at 10am,rough night. Looks up on the mountain side across from camp and there he seeing what looks like elk. He go's in and gets his weatherby7mm rem mag. walks back out side and useing the old redfield accutract scope and a truck for a rest sees that the elk are way over 600yards . He see's 2 bulls, holds the rifle 3feet over its back set at the 600 yard setting and fired at the biggest elk. When he got back on the herd he saw aleast one bull go over the top of the mountain . When all got back to camp he told the story with the cook to back him up. The guide went to see . 2hours later he opened a red trap and layed it over a died elk bull at what ranged at 900 yards from the elk to a truck windshield up hill. I hate to see people take stupid shots but thats just the kind of shot Rudy could pull off. The bullet was in the elks heart, just enough energy to get inside an punch a whole in the heart. Took all night to get it down with all in camp helping.... R.I.P Rudy Otis Stephens.
 
Clearly, the answer is to put .375-.408 Cheytac rifles in the hands of these city doofi with magnumitis - THEN they can't miss!

I'm surprised he hit in the same county as the elk with that kind of flinch. It's always hilarious when a flincher pulls on an empty chamber. :) I myself have a flinch problem to a small extent - but concentration and a few warmup shots cures it most days - even with big boomers.
 
what a bunch of buffoons.

-they steal your hunt
-shoot irresponsibly
-don't finish/retrieve a wounded/dead animal

Next time use your cell phone to take pictures and video, and have these guys busted.
 
Heck I'm still steamed that they would even have a thought to just knock you atta the way and think nothing of chasing on their own right after you said you were just starting your stalk. I know it's public land and all but what ever happened to common curtousey.

ASCTLC,

The driver told me that he was from Aspen. Any questions?:rolleyes:

I honestly don't think these guys were trying to be rude they simply didn't know any better just like they believed that since they had brand new Weatherby rifles and I'm sure the clerk at the store told them that they could shoot elk out to 1000 yards they honestly believed that all they had to do was point fire and call the taxidermist. These guys were just idiots who didn't know any better.
 
Paint don't pull a plow now does it. Just aint no cure for stupid. All you can do is try to stay away from it but every so often....
 
He see's 2 bulls, holds the rifle 3feet over its back set at the 600 yard setting and fired at the biggest elk. When he got back on the herd he saw aleast one bull go over the top of the mountain . When all got back to camp he told the story with the cook to back him up. The guide went to see . 2hours later he opened a red trap and layed it over a died elk bull at what ranged at 900 yards from the elk to a truck windshield up hill.

hardluk1,

Here is a ballistics calculator for the 7MM shooting a 150 gr pill at 9000 feet at 10 deg. At 900 yards the drop is 192 inches that equals 16 feet of drop. With all due respect to your dearly departed friend Ballistics don't lie. Your buddy simply got lucky on a seriously irresponsible shot given the caliber and the equipment he was using.

50 1.1 -8 2863 2729 61.34 0.052 0.1 1 792
100 2.6 -10 2777 2569 59.51 0.105 0.6 2 723
150 2.9 -7 2693 2416 57.71 0.160 1.3 3 659
200 2.1 -4 2611 2271 55.95 0.216 2.3 4 601
250 0.0 0 2530 2133 54.22 0.275 3.6 5 547
300 -3.5 4 2451 2001 52.53 0.335 5.2 7 497
350 -8.4 9 2374 1877 50.87 0.397 7.2 8 452
400 -14.8 14 2298 1759 49.25 0.461 9.6 9 410
450 -22.9 19 2224 1647 47.65 0.528 12.3 10 371
500 -32.8 25 2151 1541 46.09 0.596 15.5 12 336
550 -44.5 31 2079 1439 44.55 0.667 19.0 13 303
600 -58.2 37 2008 1343 43.04 0.741 23.0 15 273
650 -74.1 44 1939 1252 41.55 0.817 27.4 16 246
700 -92.4 50 1871 1166 40.10 0.896 32.3 18 221
750 -113.0 58 1805 1085 38.68 0.977 37.7 19 199
800 -136.4 65 1741 1009 37.30 1.062 43.7 21 178
850 -162.6 73 1678 937 35.95 1.150 50.2 23 159
900 -192.0 81 1617 870 34.64 1.241 57.3 24 143
950 -224.6 90 1557 808 33.37 1.335 65.0 26 127
1000 -260.8 100 1500 749 32.14 1.434 73.3 28 114
 
H&H I wish you luck in your future hunts. At that distance pull up a spotting scope and enjoy watching them OR plan a long hard sneak and enjoy the workout.
 
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