Don't worry...He's shooting a Weatherby!

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This guy can take that kind of shot...deer at 830 yards

Custom rifle 338 Win Mag with match 28" barrel on a Remington 700 action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwIJOkFb4lg

Definitely is not a "spur of the moment, on the fly" kind of shot...it takes skills, planning, discipline and steel nerves.

Still, I think it should be avoided even by the best shooters...the chances for error are just too great.
 
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I don't know how I would have reacted in that sutuation, but I would have probably suggested they go elsewhere. They essentially followed your every move, then immediately start firing wildly right on top of you?

Who does that?
 
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In case you guys are wondering I did side hill the back side of the ridge where the bull disappeared but I couldn't get to where he was before dark and had to leave early the next morning. Unfortunately that poor old bull probably suffered for hours or even days before he died. Like has been said here it would have been a funny story if that bull didn't have to pay the price.

It seems that about 80% of the folks I meet in the woods are just about flat a$$ed incompetent these days. Maybe I'm just getting old and opinionated but it sure seems that way.
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I quite agree.

In the uk we have a voluntary accreditation system..... which you guys knocked like crazy when a couple of months ago i posted that i had completed mine.
 
Definitely is not a "spur of the moment, on the fly" kind of shot...it takes skills, planning, discipline and steel nerves.
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Not really. An experienced varmint hunter with the right rifle, a huge scope with tactical knobs like that one, sufficient sighting-in, a good portable bench, and a laser rangefinder could easily make that shot with no wind, if the deer stood still. Deer are lots bigger than prairie dogs.

But what if the deer didn't stand still, in what is probably 2 seconds or more, between the start of the squeeze and the impact of the bullet?

Did this guy have a plan to track a wounded deer, when it was already 1/2 mile away from him when it started running? Where's his horse?

What did he do prior to this successful one-shot-drop, that he DIDN'T post on YouTube?

In some ways, this is worse than H&H's story. This guy PLANNED to do this; the guys from the Ass-pen were just incompetent slobs who certainly SHOULD have known better, but didn't. This guy knew what he was doing, and planned to do it.
 
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Idiots wounding animals who then die a suffering and lingering death.

But hey, its a Weatherby. You don't even have to hit a vital spot.

Must be so, I read it in a gun magazine.

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And they will go back to the 'hood confident that they can shoot that far(after all, they hit it) but convinced that a bigger gun is needed(after all, it got away).
I strongly suspect that this kind of incident is the cause of some of the "hunting accidents" that we hear about.
 
I wonder if these guys even had a license, or had taken hunter safety.

H&H: what in your experience are the chances DOW in Colorado will follow up on this??
 
sufficient sighting-in, a good portable bench, and a laser rangefinder could easily make that shot with no wind
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You said it...not a shot on the fly from the rifle in still in its case (sighted for whatever distance it was shot before) as the H&H story...unless the target is willing to wait still for you while you get your bench ready, work the knobs and maybe taking a couple of shots of sighting in to make sure....

Did this guy have a plan to track a wounded deer, when it was already 1/2 mile away from him when it started running? Where's his horse?
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I agree....actually in the video one of the deer that has been hit did run away...however in the first shot he said he waited and got ready for 15 minutes...

What did he do prior to this successful one-shot-drop, that he DIDN'T post on YouTube?

In some ways, this is worse than H&H's story. This guy PLANNED to do this; the guys from the Ass-pen were just incompetent slobs who certainly SHOULD have known better, but didn't. This guy knew what he was doing, and planned to do it.
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I agree completely, I do not condone this kind of exploits at all no matter who you are and what kind of hardware you use....but at least the guy in the video, as you said it, did plan and got ready for it (and I assume, he did this before so he should have some skills).....in the H&H story, the guy pulled the rifle out of its case (who knows what was sighted for), no laser range finder, holdover and distance probably calculated completely out of his ass and fired......

I do not condone both of them.
 
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H&H I wish you luck in your future hunts. At that distance pull up a spotting scope and enjoy watching them OR plan a long hard sneak and enjoy the workout.
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The above was posted by federalfarmer,

Does ANYBODY elese here think that I was the shooter? Is it even possible to make a comment like this after reading my original post? Could you possibly read my post and come away with the thought that somehow I didn't "plan" a long hard sneak?:scrutiny:

I sincerely hope that I am misreading the post by federalfarmer.
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countertop,

It has been my experience in the past that this will simply fade away and nothing will be done by the DOW.
 
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Some Joe-Bob is going to read this and wander out with his 300 WSM zeroed at @ 100 (after never shooting longer than 100) and take a 700+ yarder.
 
H&H, there will always be people who misread the OP, or don't read it at all. My guess is he read the responses rather than the OP, and made some faulty assumptions from them.
 
schlockinz, I'd think the intent to prevent someone from shooting the animal would likely be needed to validate that law as opposed to a greedy, inconsiderate SOB, hurrying ahead and keeping someone else from taking it.

Having said that though, if the idiots shot from the road, there's another violation right there. One must be a minimum distance of 50' from a road before they can shoot. And shooting over it is not legal either.

Andy
 
Sometimes I wish I had what it takes to be a hunter, other times not so much. This is one of those times. Just because I have a rifle, that doesn't make me a hunter, or a sniper.

If I were to try hunting, I believe one of the first things I'd consider before pulling the trigger is "OK, will I be able to retrieve this big dead animal, without huge effort and pain on my part?" There's NFW I'd try a shot at an animal in an area that I couldn't even get to without a horse and pack mule, that's just insane. I'd rather buy the meat in a store.

I'll just stick with trying long-range shots at water jugs, thank you.
 
^^^^Wise man right there^^^^

Last summer 3 of us were out buming around in SE oregon with our elk rifles busting rocks and jack rabbits at unknown and some times longish ranges and we learned a few lessons. I shoot 300wm, my firend shoots 300wby and my little bro shoots 338-378 wby. First, with out a good range finder it is very hard to accuratly estimate ranges. Many times the 3 of us looked at a rock on a hill side and all said "yeah about 400" then I would hold what I thoght was 18" high and squeez off a round. And when I hit 3 feet low we would all say "maybe more like 550". After ranging the rock at 580 we were all amazed that we could guess the distance and be off by almost 200 yards and we have all grown up hunting in the area. Then shooting at a white rock on a hill side at a now known range we would proceed to make an educated guess at hold over and make the shot. I will gladly admit that with my standard cross hair scope even under percect conditions I have no business shooting at any living thing at 580 yards. My little bro with his fancy ass swaro scope with lines for hold over actuly had a pretty high hit rate at 600 yds, he know wich line to use at 6oo and it works. He has spent a small truck load of money on ammo to learn where his rifle hits with the little hold over lines in his scope. Would he shoot at an un wounded elk at 600, no.

I can't belive that even after HnH told those jack asses they would be shooting over 600 yards they even got their rifles out of the truck.
 
H&Hhunter He did have a great amount of luck ,no dout about it. Like i said he had the accutrac redfield turned to its max, good for about 60" then put another 70" on top of that and have no adea what the up hill part helped at least untill it ran completely out of f.p.s. Now other than the fact that the shot was way up hill in angle helped abit but know dout about dum luck have'n a big part in that kill. Just enough energy to get to the heart. That was the only time i ever saw a nosler partition in one piece and hardly any mushroom. He had that bullet mounted on a neckless to wear. Rudy could not sit at a bench to shoot his rifle and left that to me but i have seen him make snap shots from time to time that would just make you shake your head. First shot i remember was a shot off a swampbuggy at a running deer around 300yards with a rem pump in 300 savage and no scope, i think i was 15 then. Just a snap shot an deer down. All us guy's sat around telling stories on his hunting abilities and laughed and cried. On the other hand I will not try to make a stupid shot ,good conditions and time to deside if game is worth killing and a 400yard max. Most way less than that, way less. I think i know my limits. Still enjoyable to look back on some unbelieveable shots.
 
They essentially followed your every move, then immediately start firing wildly right on top of you?

Who does that?
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I know this is a rhetorical question, but I'd just like to add that fishermen do the same thing. Yell "I've got one!" on a crowded piece of water and see which morons come running in to muscle you away from your spot.

The numbers of hunters and fishermen continue to dwindle every year, and with people like these running around with rifles they can't handle, is it any surprise?
 
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