Bowfishrp
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$1000 bucks is way too much for the sportical....go buy a complete with all the bells and whistles for a lot less....yes you might have to wait a while but you will much happier than spending so much on a sportical.
DPMS 5.56 Sportical for $1000 - Should I Buy?
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Get a DPMS lower. Then if you think you need to spend more money to keep from feeling like your rifle is cr@p, splurge a little on the upper and the magazines. I'm in the process of building two DPMS carbines from scratch. I'm seriously thinking about starting two more lowers using Superior Arms stripped lowers. THen putting some more expensive pre-assembled uppers on them.
FlyinBryan
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ya, i cant speak for all of them but my bushy has a way better barrel than my colt.
not saying the colt was a bad rifle. i loved it and at the time it was the best rifle i owned.
im sure it still would be if i hadnt bought my cr@ppy bushy.
(im so glad i did)
innerpiece
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blah blah blah... that smae chart popped up in my thread, when I asked about two DPMS rifles...
so, wisely, I ignored it.
I bought a DPMS sportical a couple months ago.
coming from someone who owns and shoots one: its a great rifle! reliable, accurate as hell, lightweight and fun!
Ive got a thread going, documenting some of the testing I do with it. it is a great gun!
however, I got mine, with 3 mags, and a good-enuf red dot for a little over $800....
would I buy it again if I had 1k?! more than likeley, because Ive shot one and like it.. I also believe its a sad day when you can put a price tag on a personal home defence weapon, especially if it happens to serve its purpose someday!
however, if you decide to buy it, please know yer gettin ripped off!
ip.
so, wisely, I ignored it.
I bought a DPMS sportical a couple months ago.
coming from someone who owns and shoots one: its a great rifle! reliable, accurate as hell, lightweight and fun!
Ive got a thread going, documenting some of the testing I do with it. it is a great gun!
however, I got mine, with 3 mags, and a good-enuf red dot for a little over $800....
would I buy it again if I had 1k?! more than likeley, because Ive shot one and like it.. I also believe its a sad day when you can put a price tag on a personal home defence weapon, especially if it happens to serve its purpose someday!
however, if you decide to buy it, please know yer gettin ripped off!
ip.
Lots of that going on right now... That Century Sporter AR15-C Classic has for $719.95, a month or so ago sites were selling them for less than 600.00 I'm pretty sure I saw one place that had them for 545.00.
There is a GA auction for one right now at 1,100.00
innerpiece
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thats just sick. if people buy them, I shure hope they enjoy them!
I bought a Sportical about a month ago and it was only around $650.
$1000 is way too high. It is a very bare bones unit.
At the very least, you need to buy sights or scope it which will be another ~$100.
However, given the potential for another ban or some other bad stuff. That $1000 dollar gun "could" be worth more next year.
$1000 is way too high. It is a very bare bones unit.
At the very least, you need to buy sights or scope it which will be another ~$100.
However, given the potential for another ban or some other bad stuff. That $1000 dollar gun "could" be worth more next year.
FlyinBryan
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whatever you do, dont replace the "spor" with "tes"
thats why the "ticle" part seems uncomfortable to say.
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atlanticfire
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I know it’s off topic but could some one find the site hosting that stupid comparison sheet and delete it. I'm tired of the noobs using it to justify buying colts.:banghead: Oh and yeah, thats way to much for that DPMS.
flyboy1788
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Against the grane: i would like to point out that I said:
in my original post. When I say im not going to completely discredit you, it means im giving you the benefit of the doubt because I am NOT an expert, and you very well might be right, and according to your pictures you were. I was just telling you what I have seen and read. No need to get angry about it. We are all on the same side now...arent we
Wow.. Sorry I am a newbie.. I read all the replies to this thread and now I feel confident that buying a DPMS Sportical for $1000 is a rip-off. I have seen a few on gunbroker for this price. Dunno, though.. We are having the most liberal, communist leader in the history of USA coming into power.
Well, I am no expert, since I am new, I go by word of mouth. However, people told me to stay away from Colts and Bushmasters and to stick with DPMS, LMT, maybe ArmaLites. One guy told me his Bushmaster had all kinds of problems with jamming or shoddy parts or something like that. Sorry, I am sure there is people here who would swear by their Bushmaster or Colt. Since I am a novice who never owned one of these guns, I can only go by what I read on websites and what people tell me.
Well, I am pretty set on DPMS Sportical, because it is lightweight and I have read it is well made and is very accurate and can easily be mounted with optics.
Yes, I did place a an order for a new one with an FFL and he will get it for me for around $650.00. But, I have to wait for 1-2 years and Mr. Hussein is going to be inaugurated quite soon. So is $1000 really a ripoff? I dunno.
Can people please tell me about the Sig? Do peope think Sig 556 is more accurate then DPMS AR15? If Sig's are over $2000, then you can forget it. I am on a budget, and the Obama prices really are killing me. The beauty of an AK47 I hear is that it is a cheap yet effective close range gun. Now they are selling AK's for over $1000. I mean, I don't think for the price of AK's, its worth buying a gun, that is supposedly crappy. It is funny to buy the same gun you can get in Romania for $100 which you will get here for $1000. I guess since AKs and ARs are becoming closer in price, ARs are the only real option. As for century brand stuff, I always thought they were bouttom of the line.. I did see the AR15 they were selling on Classic Arms, but I was told by sum local gun dealers to avoid ARs from Century. Do people think trying to get an AR10 and AR15 from LMT would be a better option than DPMS? I was told ArmaLite is inferior to DPMS as well.
I am thinking buying individual parts is the way to go.. A local gun dealer says he will construct an DPMS AR15 AP4 Carbine 16 within the next two months and will sell it to me for $800. Well, I am thinking I may also just wait for that.. Damn, I am so confused..
Well, I am no expert, since I am new, I go by word of mouth. However, people told me to stay away from Colts and Bushmasters and to stick with DPMS, LMT, maybe ArmaLites. One guy told me his Bushmaster had all kinds of problems with jamming or shoddy parts or something like that. Sorry, I am sure there is people here who would swear by their Bushmaster or Colt. Since I am a novice who never owned one of these guns, I can only go by what I read on websites and what people tell me.
Well, I am pretty set on DPMS Sportical, because it is lightweight and I have read it is well made and is very accurate and can easily be mounted with optics.
Yes, I did place a an order for a new one with an FFL and he will get it for me for around $650.00. But, I have to wait for 1-2 years and Mr. Hussein is going to be inaugurated quite soon. So is $1000 really a ripoff? I dunno.
Can people please tell me about the Sig? Do peope think Sig 556 is more accurate then DPMS AR15? If Sig's are over $2000, then you can forget it. I am on a budget, and the Obama prices really are killing me. The beauty of an AK47 I hear is that it is a cheap yet effective close range gun. Now they are selling AK's for over $1000. I mean, I don't think for the price of AK's, its worth buying a gun, that is supposedly crappy. It is funny to buy the same gun you can get in Romania for $100 which you will get here for $1000. I guess since AKs and ARs are becoming closer in price, ARs are the only real option. As for century brand stuff, I always thought they were bouttom of the line.. I did see the AR15 they were selling on Classic Arms, but I was told by sum local gun dealers to avoid ARs from Century. Do people think trying to get an AR10 and AR15 from LMT would be a better option than DPMS? I was told ArmaLite is inferior to DPMS as well.
I am thinking buying individual parts is the way to go.. A local gun dealer says he will construct an DPMS AR15 AP4 Carbine 16 within the next two months and will sell it to me for $800. Well, I am thinking I may also just wait for that.. Damn, I am so confused..
FlyinBryan
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at some point you might consider trying things for yourself.
then maybe even forming your own opinions.
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"i've always wanted to say this: fer shizzle"
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4F, don't worry about being a newbie to this. Everyone was, at one point in time. And the thing about AR rifles is that the dozens of companies making them, as well as the hundreds of different configurations make things very confusing. It is true that some companies make their factory rifles to a higher standard, because they aim for the military and LE market. Requirements there are steeper, because the weapons don't sit in safes 360 days out of a year. It doesn't mean that all the others are crap. For 99% of shooters' recreational uses - range, home defense, and maybe a class or two, most ARs will be just fine.
Sure, you could drop coin on a NIB Colt 6920 right now, and if you could actually find one available, it would probably cost you over two grand. But then I'd hate to hear of someone who ends up not even liking the platform and being out of so much cash. On the other hand, you can theoretically spend less on a RRA, DPMS, Bushmaster, etc. and then adjust the rifle to suit your needs. I say theoretically, only because right now anything AR related is overpriced. Let me clarify - it's overpriced compared to just a little over a month ago, but there's absolutely zero guarantee that the demand and the prices will fall. A $700 MSRP, bare bones AR of a month ago is $1000 now, could become $1500 on inauguration day, $2000 on a day when some BS is proposed in the House, and extinct on the day when that BS becomes law. You never know.
Bottom line is this - it's not the greatest time to just be testing the waters of the AR pool. As a matter of fact any EBR pool, since AK, FAL, HK related stuff is in the same state also. Parts, ammo, mags, whole rifles are all scarce right now and newbs don't have much in the way of making a choice. In classifieds and on auction sites things sell after barely hitting the market. My personal advice, which is worth exactly what you paid for it, is this - figure out what you could spend, find a deal that you think is okay and go with it. Any name brand AR manufacturer will be fine for a first rifle purchase. The only names I'd really stay away from are Hesse, Vulcan, Blackthorne, Velocity Firearms, which are all the same company anyway and Century. I'd also stay away from rifles with polymer lowers as a first purchase.
Sure, you could drop coin on a NIB Colt 6920 right now, and if you could actually find one available, it would probably cost you over two grand. But then I'd hate to hear of someone who ends up not even liking the platform and being out of so much cash. On the other hand, you can theoretically spend less on a RRA, DPMS, Bushmaster, etc. and then adjust the rifle to suit your needs. I say theoretically, only because right now anything AR related is overpriced. Let me clarify - it's overpriced compared to just a little over a month ago, but there's absolutely zero guarantee that the demand and the prices will fall. A $700 MSRP, bare bones AR of a month ago is $1000 now, could become $1500 on inauguration day, $2000 on a day when some BS is proposed in the House, and extinct on the day when that BS becomes law. You never know.
Bottom line is this - it's not the greatest time to just be testing the waters of the AR pool. As a matter of fact any EBR pool, since AK, FAL, HK related stuff is in the same state also. Parts, ammo, mags, whole rifles are all scarce right now and newbs don't have much in the way of making a choice. In classifieds and on auction sites things sell after barely hitting the market. My personal advice, which is worth exactly what you paid for it, is this - figure out what you could spend, find a deal that you think is okay and go with it. Any name brand AR manufacturer will be fine for a first rifle purchase. The only names I'd really stay away from are Hesse, Vulcan, Blackthorne, Velocity Firearms, which are all the same company anyway and Century. I'd also stay away from rifles with polymer lowers as a first purchase.
Take a look for yourself.
Dont research only in internet forums. There are many who will lie about brands other than what they like, here and elsewhere. Get out and take a look for yourself at the actual weapons before believing the hype.
Believe me when you take a look at the actual rifles and check the accuracy of that chart you will find it to be wrong. Many of the rifles not given credit for certain features have them in reality.
If you want a very accurate AR then buy a DPMS. If you really are paranoid about what a few brand snobs claim then order yours with a chrome lined barrel. Also if you really are paranoid about needing a magnetic particle tested bolt, then you probably shouldnt be handling a firearm.
A DPMS sportical should be about 6.5 lbs or less. Even my lopro classic with its 1 inch thick heavy barrel only weighs 7.75 lbs.
Use common sense and pick the rifle you want.
Also have fun with it.
Dont research only in internet forums. There are many who will lie about brands other than what they like, here and elsewhere. Get out and take a look for yourself at the actual weapons before believing the hype.
Believe me when you take a look at the actual rifles and check the accuracy of that chart you will find it to be wrong. Many of the rifles not given credit for certain features have them in reality.
If you want a very accurate AR then buy a DPMS. If you really are paranoid about what a few brand snobs claim then order yours with a chrome lined barrel. Also if you really are paranoid about needing a magnetic particle tested bolt, then you probably shouldnt be handling a firearm.
A DPMS sportical should be about 6.5 lbs or less. Even my lopro classic with its 1 inch thick heavy barrel only weighs 7.75 lbs.
Use common sense and pick the rifle you want.
Also have fun with it.
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againstthagrane
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dpms offers chrome lined barrels. you just have to specify that you want it. it costs about $35 from the factory.
If I were considering my first AR in this market environment, I would not hesitate a second and grab a Century Sporter while the prices are still somewhat sane.
The reviews on those rifles have not been bad, many have colt parts in them. The receivers are forged and they run.
IMHO, that rifle is an excellent introduction to the AR platform.
The reviews on those rifles have not been bad, many have colt parts in them. The receivers are forged and they run.
IMHO, that rifle is an excellent introduction to the AR platform.
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