There are many examples of accepted peremptory legal actions. Laws prohibiting driving under the influence, for example. And see my post 271. And injunctions are peremptory legal actions. Calling them "unjust" may be your value judgment, but those sorts of peremptory legal actions are firmly rooted in, and accepted by, our legal tradition.Sam1911 said:...My point was that placing a preemptory legal action on a person simply because they have the physical ability to do a thing is unjust....
Not to quibble, but the examples provided are largely pre-conditions and not prohibitions.These are all acceptable "prior restraints" on the exercise of the protected rights of free assembly or free speech. The mere fact that some regulation is a restriction on action prior to an event does not, in and of itself, make it improper.
Should it be illegal? That is up to your local lawmakers.
I've always been struck by the DEMONSTRATED inability of a LOT of DRINKERS to "differentiate between responsible, social drinking, and alcoholism".I'm struck by the apparent inability of some people to differentiate between responsible, social drinking, and alcoholism.
+10,000NO ONE goes shooting or hunting with me while drinking(not because they are drinkers) during said shooting or hunting outing.
Are we not supposed to be S.A. at all times. What color are you at when out drinking?
Sam: that might be a " unreasonable requirement" to you but not everyone.
I've always been struck by the DEMONSTRATED inability of a LOT of DRINKERS to "differentiate between responsible, social drinking, and alcoholism".
differentiate between responsible, social drinking, and alcoholism
In my riper age I will not take a ride from a driver who is drunk, unless I'm having a heart attack or bleeding to death.Not upset at all Sam1911. NO ONE goes shooting or hunting with me while drinking(not because they are drinkers) during said shooting or hunting outing.
Oh! Well, then we'll get along famously. I don't do that, either!Not upset at all Sam1911. NO ONE goes shooting or hunting with me while drinking(not because they are drinkers) during said shooting or hunting outing.
Well, I apologize. We were discussing the laws in certain states, and I guess I got overly focused on the legal issues -- generally because they carry more weight than public opinion.The subject that I am discussing is not the legality of but the wisdom behind carrying while imbibing. Why do you insist on dragging me into the legal discussion?
Ha! That's where you're wrong! My state does not have a BAC limit on carrying, nor any prohibitions on bar/restaurant/alcohol carry -- and hasn't for (at least) 20 years."WE ARE our local lawmakers, by proxy." then you must not be doing your job if there are laws you don't agree with.
Maybe... or not.That would not include me.
Responsible, social drinkers are some of the worst alcoholic there are - you seem to equate an alcoholic with someone lying face on the bar every night - not the case
And there are MANY folks, who for whatever reason, don't seem to know or have the ability to stop.
In my riper age I will not take a ride from a driver who is drunk, unless I'm having a heart attack or bleeding to death.
Firearms can be dangerous if mishandled. Why anyone in their right mind would want to be handling one with anything less than 100% of their mental faculties is beyond me.
What is the difference between the three?
By the way, I never drink anywhere but at home. And if I am at dinner somewhere and Im carrying, I don't drink.
Not being allowed to practice the STATE Shinto religion by flying planes into ships is NOT an "unreasonable" restriction, just as is not being allowed to drink and carry a loaded firearm in public.Uhhh....so...what? Maybe not being allowed to pracitce the Shinto religion is not an "unreasonable" restriction to me.
You are right. There are. I can and do consider them to be generally unjust.There are many examples of accepted peremptory legal actions. Laws prohibiting driving under the influence, for example. And see my post 271. And injunctions are peremptory legal actions. Calling them "unjust" may be your value judgment, but those sorts of peremptory legal actions are firmly rooted in, and accepted by, our legal tradition.