Drug War Police Tactics Endanger Innocent Citizens

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Optical Serenity said:
Oh boy, let's read stuff from the tin foil hat wearing cato institute

Yes, that silly CATO institute, what with their detailed investigations and hundreds of examples and citations. They're just a bunch of cop-hatin' crazies, ain't they?

Seriously, I suggest you check out the map: www.cato.org/raidmap/

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Yes, that silly CATO institute, what with their detailed investigations and hundreds of examples and citations. They're just a bunch of cop-hatin' crazies, ain't they?
Exactly!

Anyone who criticizes the police for any reason is a cop-hatin' crazy.

They are above reproach. To challenge that is cop bashing. It must be stamped out absolutely and completely... by any means necessary.
 
Deanimator said:
Exactly!

Anyone who criticizes the police for any reason is a cop-hatin' crazy.

They are above reproach. To challenge that is cop bashing. It must be stamped out absolutely and completely... by any means necessary.

Hear hear!

It should be a crime to bash the police. They're out there every day risking their lives to defend our freedom. Surely they shouldn't be forced to hear the whines of the ungrateful.
 
When I see pictures from Iraq of our infantrymen posing with insurgents they've just taken prisoner after a firefight I think to myself "glad they survived."

When I see pictures of balaclava-clad SWAT guys posing with the neighborhood crackheads they just captured after rolling over an abandoned building with an APC I think to myself "who do they think they're kidding?"

Warriors vs wannabes.
 
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I am not sure where I read about the "cops" show filming a homeowner being killed by a swat invasion. It may have been in the cato report. I deeply hate this nazi/swat team mentality. It encourages bullies in the PD. I guess it goes along with the loss of other civil rights.
 
Obvious tinfoilery. Everyone knows law enforcement officers are above reproach. Obviously the 4th amendment is a bunch of liberal nonsense, if you don't think so you are not a USA Patriot®. Privacy and rights are obsolete, when there are terrorists and dopers on the loose. Let's all get with the program, folks, your home has no sanctity, and our law enforcement officers should be allowed to bust in whenever they feel that you might be doing something proscribed by law.

PS: cops aren't nazis.
 
It encourages bullies in the PD.
There aren't any bullies in the PD. All police force is by definition justified force.

If they do something to you, you deserve it, no matter what it is. Your failure to violate the law is no excuse for you to bash the police with your claims of innocence.

If you don't want to be beaten or shot by the police, be someplace else...
 
heres a good one:

On November 7, 1995, police in North Minneapolis, Minnesota raid the home of Andre Madison. After local media merely rehashes the police version of events, the City Pages, a Minneapolis alternative weekly, conducts its own in-depth investigation.

According to the paper's stunning account of the raid, police obtained a no-knock warrant on Madison's home after a confidential informant allegedly purchased some marijuana at the residence. At about 8 p.m., the Minneapolis paramilitary police unit, called ERU, deployed flashbang grenades at the front of Madison's home. At the same time, police from the city's housing unit were entering the home from the rear. Reports at the time say police began firing when Madison fired his shotgun at them. But a forensics team later determined that Madison's gun was never fired the night of the raid. Instead, an investigation conducted by the police chief from a nearby county concluded that the housing unit officers mistook the flashbang grenades deployed by the ERU unit for gunfire from the suspect, and so opened fire themselves.

The two police units then mistook one another for assailants, and began to fire upon one another. When Officer Mark Lanasa went down, shot in the neck by a colleague, the commanding officer called for "suppressive fire," giving officers carte blanche to shoot at will.

Upon hearing that a fellow officer had gone down, more police soon arrived at the scene. They too joined in the shooting. Hundreds of rounds were fired into the building. There were bullet holes found in neighboring buildings a half-block away.

Madison, the suspect, was shot in the neck and the arm. Miraculously, no one was killed.

Police found only a small amount of marijuana in Madison's home. He was never charged with a drug crime. He was charged with four felony counts of second-degree assault with a firearm: Not for shooting, but for pointing his shotgun at police. He could have been sentenced to 12 years in prison. Madison insists he thought the police were intruders.

But prosecutors then offered to let Madison plea to a misdemeanor count of reckless use of a firearm, which carries a sentence of just 90 days. The hitch was that a guilty plea to the lesser charge would prevent Madison from suing the city for the botched raid.

The subsequent investigation and report from the outside police chief also concluded that Minneapolis's ERU unit "executes too many warrants and relies too heavily on dynamic (door-ramming) raids," explaining that "There are other alternative tactics that ERU is aware of. However when so many raids are conducted using dynamic entry, other tactics may be forgotten."


LOL... smooth operators.



after further review of the CATO map... im disgusted. Why does it seem that the vast majority of these SWAT raids are for small time pot dealing (and some for even possesion?!?!)... If your gonna send a swat team in to subdue evil potheads, you may want to gather the local national gaurd and maybe a squad of Delta to serve the real victim-causing crime warrants out there.
 
Looking at SWAT from a compleatly practical view I have to admire the very very good skills they have.

They hardly ever loose a teammate and they compleatly negate the defenders advantage with speed and firepower. They clearly know what they are doing and have good training. Of course they move so fast if they ever came to a choke point and bunched up well you know what happens when you bunch up..

Luckily almost no criminals are any CQC or tactical planners or they would never be able to find people that want to be SWAT members.

But looking at this as a citizen it is sad and dangerous to have rampant gun squads running all over the place.
 
I am opposed to the police turning into a paramilitary organization. The police are here to protect and to serve, not to wage war. I remember the pictures of Elian Gonzalez, with the police officer holding a rifle to the boys unlce. Elian was found at sea with his mother dead, trying to flee Cuba. Elians crime was Clinton wanted him sent back to Cuba. The police busted in his house with massive fire power.

For those who do not remember-
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