Dumbest thing you heard/saw in a Gun Store or at the range.

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I've heard this story for years but I'm not sure how true it is.

There was a lone shooter at the range and it was his first time there. After shooting for a while, he goes into the range house and said that it was a very nice range but he did not like the backstop. It seems that he was facing the wrong way and was firing at the concrete wall of the range house.

That building was made for the military and has two foot thick reinforced concrete walls.

The next time that you go to the Knob Creek Range Machine Gun Shoot, look at the wall behind the firing tables. The knob Creek Logo is painted right on top of these holes. Go check it out and have a little chuckle.

TerryBob
 
Possibly not the stupidest, but in the top five I've seen.

Have any of you seen the video that used to be on the Buffertech website where the middle eastern looking gentleman is firing a large rifle at an indoor range and it spins out of his hand and almost knocks him down when he pulls the trigger?

A buddy and I are checking out of the local indoor range. This gunshop/range has a try before you buy program, and a rather thin young man has decided he is going to try before he buys with a single shot shotgun. You know, the kind that weighs about four pounds. The guy behind the counter takes his money and hands him his three 12 guage shells. Well, I happen to know that unless they know you really well, they will only let you shoot slugs out of a shotgun at said range. You can see where this is going.

My buddy starts to leave, and I say "Hang on dude, you're gonna want to see this." Buddy turns around and immediately grasps the finer points of the situation. Shooter loads one and assumes the classic "I've never done this before and have no idea what I'm doing" stance, leaning back, an inch or so of space (acceleration room) between his shoulder and the stock.

Well, to his credit, he didn't drop the gun or fall down. He did move backwards about four feet. He puts the gun down, rubs his shoulder, and starts to laugh. I'm pretty sure he was laughing to avoid the crying he wanted to do.

Surprisingly, he fired the second slug. He did not fire the third. I guess a slow learner is better than a no learner. I'm pretty sure he didn't buy the shotgun.

We laughed until we about wet ourselves. This was about 5 years ago, and it will still bring laughter to this day.
 
2 Dummies in the same day...

First, I was at the pistol range, there was a lady there shooting a black powder 58 Rmington revolver C&B pistol. I hadn't paid her much mind, then I stopped to take a breather and drink a soda. I noticed while she was reloading, she put on the caps first, then the rest of the components.

Second, later that night at the local gun store, a fellow had not wanted to carry his truck keys on him, so he hid them in the fuel door on his pickup. When he went to leave, the keys had evidently fell further down into the body. He couldn't find them so he was looking in the open fuel door area with a BIC lighter trying to find his keys in the dark.
 
Some folks are gluttons for punishment.

I was shooting with my nephew (he's about the same age as me, and this will factor in) right after I got my little NEF break open 12. Well, I was shooting the Mossberg and he was shooting the NEF and we were having a grand old time with light trap loads and whatnot. Well, we start getting down to the bottom of the ammo box and find this one box of 3" uber-buttwhoop magnum OOO buckshot shells.

To be honest with you, I didn't even know that NEF was chambered for 3". But apparently it was, and my nephew - Now, you have to picture this, the boy weighs about 230 pounds and is not small framed at all - Shoulders that silly little gun with that shell in it and lets it rip. He was hunkered down pretty good with his legs spread fairly far apart - Not a stance for accuracy's sake but a stance for not falling over. Well, judging by the skid marks in the dirt that shot scooted him backwards on the soles of his shoes about two inches.

I'm expecting the dance of pain or at the very least he'll want to trade guns for the heavier Mossberg. Nope. He turns to me with a mile wide grin on his face, holds out his hand, and says "Gimme another one of those!"
 
Two things lately...

first, I stopped at a pawn shop and they had an Enfield on the rack. I give it the look see and realize it is a matching Lithgow, which I don't have in my collection. I ask what the price is and he replys 165. I said I would think about is as the bore was pretty dark. The next day SWMBO and I go back and I take a couple extra rifles I have, a 91/30 and a Turk Mauser. Both are pretty nice and shoot well. I ask the guy if he would be interested in a trade and he says what do you have. After looking he says he will give me 20 bucks apiece toward the purchase of the Enfield. Duh....
second, I went into one of the rather nice gunshops around here and mixed in with a bunch of pretty beat Yugo SKS, is a Chinese SKS with 130 bucks tag on it. I scope it out and find out it is an all matching Sino-Soviet. My elbow hurt for three days when I twisted it grabbing my wallet out of my pocket.........results, win one lose one....chris3
 
A buddy and I are checking out of the local indoor range. This gunshop/range has a try before you buy program, and a rather thin young man has decided he is going to try before he buys with a single shot shotgun. You know, the kind that weighs about four pounds. The guy behind the counter takes his money and hands him his three 12 guage shells. Well, I happen to know that unless they know you really well, they will only let you shoot slugs out of a shotgun at said range. You can see where this is going.

Done it. NEF single shot 12 gauge, Winchester Partition Gold sabot slugs, and all 145 pounds of me. My best friend thought it would be an economical deer hunting option. I made it three rounds and then stomped and swore up to the shop and said "ADAM! How much will it cost to get a .308?"
 
I was once at a gun show looking at an old hinge frame S&W DA revolver in .44 Russian. I was very interested until the seller started telling me the reason for his high price was the scarcity of this rare gun designed to compete with the Colt .45 auto in the army pistol trial. My pointing out the patent dates, clear to be read on the barrel rib were from the 1880s.......this pin head talked himself out of a sale. No matter that I even brought him a copy of the "Standard Catalog of Smith and Wesson" to prove my point later. Facts were not going to get in the way of his story.....:banghead:
 
I was in Sportsman's Warehouse, a big chain store with just about every current model on the wall, waiting for a clerk. I look to the left and there is a woman with her 15-16 year old son and the boy is looking at handguns.

The clerk hands him a .357 4" and he cavalierly waves it around. "I'd like to see that one" he says pointing to another gun on the wall.

The clerk turns his back and as soon as he does, the kid sticks his finger through the trigger guard and does the 'cowboy twirl' with the revolver. Unfortunately, he didn't drop it and the clerk never saw what happened. I thought about telling the clerk not to turn his back again, but uncharacteristically, I just kept my mouth shut.
 
Phantom Warrior, you couldn't have been the guy I saw. He didn't make it three rounds.

On the other hand, just in case my memory is going, you weren't stationed at Bragg in the last six years, were you?
 
1. I was there but didn't see it personally, but while I was doing an ROTC internship with the 5th Cav. at Fort Knox in the late '70s, the troop I was assigned to went to the practice LAW range. While firing the 35mm(?) practice rockets, one of the trainees pulled the launch tube down at the last moment, so that the rear end was pressed firmly against his shoulder. He wasn't killed, but the plastic and brass igniter mechanism had to be surgically removed from the imitation female organ that he instantly created in his shoulder. The National Guard captain who was also TDY to the troop said, "I'll bet he doesn't do THAT again..."

2. While serving as the XO of a Basic Training company at Fort Knox in the '80s, I regularly patronized the public range, which was also open to local civilians. One morning a friend and I were shooting his HK93 and my Lee-Enfield. A couple of local yokels drove up and started setting up their gear. We called a ceasefire to change targets and started downrange. Moments later I heard a snap off to one side, then a report. This was quickly followed by several others. We turned and saw the Beverly Hillbillys firing while we were downrange! We called ANOTHER ceasefire and asked them what they were doing. Their reply, "We wasn't shootin' AT you, we was shootin' PAST you!" We then told them that if they shot "past" us again, we would return their fire by shooting THROUGH them. We then proceeded to range control to report them. They had left by the time we got back to the line.

3. Wanting to zero my guns at 25 yards for Camp Perry, I went to the Stonewall range, outside of Cleveland. No sooner had I put my gunbox on the bench than the guy in the stall next to mine came off the line, swinging his Ruger centerfire auto across my body with the action closed. I debated saying something, but fearing that would prolong his stay, I said nothing. He left the range to my great relief. A few minutes later, I looked off to my left to see three Serbian (or Croatian) gentlemen wrestling over a loaded 12ga. pump. At that point, I finished my business as fast as humanly possible and got out of there.

4. In the early '90s I was shooting a long range match at Camp Perry during the Nationals. Right after a 1000 yard relay began, there was a ceasefire which lasted at least an hour. Apparently, an elderly pit officer decided that he would disregard the pit safety instructions. Rather than stand against the bunker wall, or sit in the bunker, he decided to stand next to the target frame. Back in those days, there was a permanent handrail leading down the sandbag steps on top of the berm into the pits. Apparently, somebody didn't have a good 1000 yard zero. Instead of hitting the target, frame or berm, the bullet hit the handrail at a downward angle. It then traveled along the handrail, coming off at an angle to the left. It struck gramps' shooting glasses, skidded a bit, entered his face (knocking out a few teeth along the way) then exited his jawline. He was mildly discomfited by this. Immediate first aid was rendered while the medevac helicopter was en route. He was airlifted to a hospital in Sandusky or Toledo. Three or four hours later, he was back, escorted by a teenage girl detailed to keep him out of trouble.

5. I wasn't there, but a friend was: A friend had a Jordanian Army officer in his Armor Officer Basic Course Class. "George" was kind of the Arab version of "Kelso" on That '70s Show. They used to do things like make up imaginary slang sayings to teach him, such as "That really tortures my crabs!" for a frustrating situation. One day on the tank range, "George" was the loader in his vehicle. In the sequence of tank firing commands, once the loader has a round in the breech, he's supposed to call out "up!". The student tank commander called out a fire mission like, "Gunner, sabot, tank, direct front, 1500 meters!" The gunner replied as he was required, "Identified!" No reply from "George". Still no reply from "George". The TC started calling out, "George, give me an 'up'!" Still no reply. Frustrated, the gunner finally said "Screw it, 'On the way!'" and fired. "George" who had until that time been in the bottom of the turret searching for the flashlight that he'd dropped, chose that moment to sit up... with his head immediately behind the breech of the 105mm gun. As the breech recoilled, it struck "George" in the side of his vehicle crewman's helmet, knocking him over senseless (well, more senseless than usual). "George" staggered upright, the plastic shell of his helmet splitting and falling off of the padded liner. In a Robin Williams quaalude drawl, "George" babbled, "I do not think I can continuuuuuuue..." He then crawled out of the loader's hatch, sliding down the side of the turret headfirst and falling to the ground next to the M60A3. I imagine that today, he's a brigade commander in the Jordanian Armored Corps...

6. Another friend was on the tank range at Graffenwoehr in West Germany. There were strict orders not to molest any wildlife in the training areas. His platoon was just getting ready for a firing exercise with coaxes and cupola machineguns when a herd of deer entered the impact area from one side of the range. Just as my friend was beginning to shout, "None of you :cuss: better start shooting!", a tremendous fusillade of machinegun fire erupted from the platoon. Thousands of rounds of 7.62 and .50 obscured the deer in a cloud of dust kicked up by the bullet strikes. The guns fell silent, and there was an eerie silence... broken by the herd of deer bounding out of the dust cloud. My friend proceeded to lambaste his platoon, not only for disobeying orders, but for missing an entire herd of deer with EVERY round.
 
Since Deanimator brought up the Jordanian officer, I have to tell this one. It's not directly gun related, although it does involve a gun. I also did not directly witness this one, but word spread pretty quick.

We were in Phase I (now Phase II) of the SF Q Course, the small unit tactics phase. We are in heavy squad (10ish) size squads, and each squad has it's own planning bay with attached living quarters (Camp Mackall, for those who know the area.) We had a lot of CPTs in the class, so each squad has like 3-4 CPT SF trainees and 6-7 NCO SF trainees.

We have an Egyptian officer who frequently served as amusement to those of us not assigned to his squad.

Well, the squad with the Egyptian comes in off of a 3-4 day patrol. As with any combat unit, first priority is weapons maintenance.

The Egyptian walks up to the senior NCO student, hands him his M-4, and says "In my country, officers don't clean their own weapons."

Fortunately for our relationship with the nation of Egypt, one or more of the American officers pulled him aside and explained that we weren't in his country and that he needed to clean his weapon, thus preventing the impending international incident.

I still laugh every time I think about that.
 
Some folks are gluttons for punishment.

Perhaps the stupiest thing that could be done at a gunstore is attempt to rob/burgarize the place. This is especially stupid when the owner of the gunshop has already shot, and in some cases killed, other robbers/burglers in the past.

Read about the old guy that owns my favorite local gun store (Note: Story written in 1995): http://www.afn.org/~guns/ayoob.html

Excerpt:
"I like to tell folks that I put that one there intentionally," says Harry with a puckish grin. At 68, Harry admits that his recollection is a bit cloudy, but he figures that in his 35 years in the retail gun business he has experienced right at 35 robberies and burglaries. He proudly notes that in all those rip-offs and heist attempts, only two firearms were not recovered.

He also remembers the only three times when the thieves were unfortunate enough to face him. Each time, it evolved into a gun battle. Each time, he shot them and they didn't get to shoot him.

The first was a pure pistol fight. Harry drew and shot the robber, who lost all interest in carrying on the fight. This saved his life; when the wounded gunman surrendered, Harry Beckwith, a moral man, didn't shoot him again.

In the second shootout, the gun dealer interrupted a felon about to drive off with guns he'd heisted from the store. Though not a Class III weapons dealer, Beckwith was federally licensed to possess such arms for his own use. When the thug raised a .45 auto pistol at Harry, Beckwith trumped his ace with a burst of full automatic fire from a Smith & Wesson Model 76 9mm submachine gun. Struck in the forehead, the gunman dropped his pistol and screamed, "I'm hit!"


The third story is the best but much longer than these two so check it out through the link above.
 
My stupidest wolud have to be the clerk at a local gunstore screaming at me (and I do mean screaming,) that it was flat out, drop dead illegal to transfer a handgun from a private seller (as opposed to a dealer.) Asked if it would be okay if it was transfered from a dealer on his end. (still screaming,) "No! IT'S ILLEGAL!!" Asks I, after a pause, "Are you sure?" The given reply, "Well I oughta be sure! I been in this business fer twenty-five frickin' years!"

I took my business across town and got the gun transfered. I wish I could say I never went back there, but deer season came along and every other place in town was out of 6.5x55.
 
Had a friend in high school who was so jazzed about his new 'Uzi'. Yeah, sure. Said it was so cool to hold the trigger down and hear it click over and over in fast succession. Same guy says it's amazing to watch a deer fly back after it gets hit with a 30.-06.

Local gun store clerk, trying to sell two guys a revolver. He pulls it out, the two guys look at it, and the clerk takes it back, proceeding to hold an entire conversation about it with the muzzle pointing at his own stomach.
 
That's one of my gun movie/video game pet peaves.

Full auto gun out of ammo

*pull* *click*
"huh?"
*pull* *click*
*pull* *click*
*pull* *click*
I'm out of ammo!
 
I haven't been shooting long enough to have seen really stupid things at the range (although I'm pretty sure I've asked plenty of stupid questions. Ask my brother {dasmi}).

But (and I wasn't looking when this happened, someone told me about it) last time we were out in the hills shootin' at cans and stuff, there was a group maybe 100 yards to our right. They seemed a little loud and roudy but they weren't doing anything unsafe from what I could tell. Well apparently they were throwing clay pigeons and one didn't go very far and completely sideway instead of out. One of them with a shotgun proceeded to blast the clay pigeon on the ground only a few feet away from his friends legs.

Like I said, I didn't actually see it so I don't know how close it really was.


Be safe and use common sense.
 
A buddy of mine was talking about swords or some crap. And how they take skill unlike guns. Hahaha. I just said "have you ever shot out to a thousand yards" and he obviously lied and said "yeah!". He is often a know-it-all. However he often admits he doesnt know guns. Seems odd that a guy who barely knows a thing about guns shoots out to 1k yards and gets good groups (just previously I had to explain to him what a group was). All he did was dig himself deeper by trying to spit out long geometric words in a rapid sucession. It was funny really.
 
A guy who was telling his buddy that a 7 mag could use 7 mauser for "lite loads"


A guy who wanted mag loads for his potmetal .380, he spied .38 supers on the shelf and said he wanted them.


The kid who brought in his dads really nice SXS with a big blob of metal where the muzzles were. He had tried to fire some 12 guage flares out of the full choked side. They had stuck and turned the end to molten blobs.

The guy who had been using the browning A5 as a walking stick up the slippery side slope of the creek then tried to "blow the crap" out of the gun barrel.

The lady who asked "if we sold guns,"
us "yes we are a gun shop"
her ''I want one now,"
us "well there is a three day wait for handguns, and you need to get a
permit to purchase..."
her "dammmit can you rent me one? i only need it for a little while
the SOB is still at the bar...''

and the very normal two sides of a coin.....

"that 30-30 will only scare them a way at anything past 50 yards, you need a 340 to kill deer properly........"

and its corrolary; "what do you need that 338 for, i have killed hundreds of elk at 400 yards with my 30-30."

Likewise, " you need to buy a 270 because a 30-06 kicks like a mule." and its corrollary, "you need a 30-06, a 270 is just too light for deer."
 
Not a gun store story but...

I buy ammo at a local Dick's Sporting Goods because they always have it (at least the common stuff) and the prices are good. Just the week before last they had R-P 9mm JHP for under $6/box with an additional 10% discount if you bought ten boxes.

Here in the People's Republic, most people have never even seen a gun so I frequently get funny looks/comments/questions from both employees and other customers. I find it amusing and expect it when I go in there now, so I try to have a snappy comeback. Here are some examples from a few recent visits:

CHECKOUT GIRL (Afraid to touch a brick of .22's): Is it OK to, like, put this in a bag?
ME: Yeah, probably. They hardly ever go off by themselves.

GUY IN FRONT OF ME IN LINE: Wow! What do you have there?
ME: That's 1000 rounds of 9mm.
GUY: And how many bullets are in a "round"?
ME: I hope only one.

WOMAN IN LINE (looking at the 10 boxes of ammo I'm carrying): I can't believe they let you just carry that through the store.
ME: Well, the last time I drove up to the ammo counter they told me to leave my car outside from now on.

CHECKOUT GIRL: Are these for a handgun?
ME: Yup.
GIRL: Are you a cop?
ME: Nope.
GIRL: I thought only cops could own handguns.
ME (whispering): Don't tell anyone.

... and finally:

WHINY WOMAN IN LINE: I don't know why anybody would need so many "bullets".
ME: I'll bet there are a whole lot of things you don't know.
 
Worst combination of ignorance and apathy:


CUSTOMER: (sees H&R single-shot .223 rifle on wall) Cool! Can I get 30-round clips for that?

CLERK: No.



I ended up explaining the "why" to the customer after the clerk walked away. Nice fellow, but a bit dippy. He did end up buying the rifle; apparently the notion of a single-shot was quite the novelty to him.

-MV
 
Higher point of impact

Hello Hank, So you were the one at the gun range I talked to... just kidding, you may have a point there if I were using a handgun. Turns out the ammo I was useing even though had a heavier bullet was shooting higher because of the higher velocity. I was shooting at 100 yards. The ammo that was printing much lower was 50 year old military ball ammo.
 
I thought I had heard something stupid until the gun shop owner explained it to me.

A rather seedy looking guy was in the shop filling out the background check and actually proclaimed to the saleslady that he was a "fugitive from justice".

I was amazed at why he would tell someone this but the owner told me the guy was having dental problems and had broken his glasses and needed a way to get picked up that would not really add any time to his sentence. In jail he could see a dentist, get a new set of glasses and have a warm bed for the winter.
 
Couple years ago, I was shooting at a local range with my girlfriend. She was new to guns and still not quite confident in her abilities. We were sharing a lane and I was observing her shooting. Guy started setting up next to us and pulled out an FAL with a bizarre muzzlebreak on the end (thing was huge!). Starts blasting away at his target set up about 40 yards down range. The muzzleblast from the break was really intense and my girlfriend decided to step back from the line for a few minutes because she couldn't concentrate with the intense concussions. I continued shooting and suddenly noticed the RO yelling at the guy. Next ceasefire, I asked my GF if she knew what happened. Apparently, the guy was skipping rounds off the concrete floor about 25 yards out from the line.:eek:

Next he pulled out a Beretta 92 and started shooting holes in my target. :cuss: I was just about to have a few words with the guy, when the RO tells him to pack up his things. Fortunately, never saw the guy again at that range.
 
I have 2. My primary carry weapon is a ported SP101 .357 with the short barrel. I was in a chain outdoor store and a couple was looking at .357 revolvers for her. When she picked up an SP101, I told her that I really liked mine and the reasons why. They asked me a couple of questions and I said that I had had mine ported to cut recovery time for second shots. The clerk then jumped in with" You should never port a self defense gun because the muzzle flash would mess up your night vision" Obviouly he had ever fired any short barrel pistol in low light conditions as they are all bright, ported or not.
I was at another outdoor chain, at the handgun counter, when a woman walked up with her daughter and asked to see thier 9mms. She then proceeded to rack and cock and dry fire several different ones at all and sundry. After a bit. I offered to take upstairs (to the range) and let her shoot a couple of my guns in hopes of instilling some safety instruction. She said that she knew all about guns but she didn't know which one to get to shoot whoever was breaking into her house. I suggested she might want to look at revovlers, as they were at the other end of the counter and it would get her away from me. I later appologized to the clerk for messing with his sale and said "that's okay, I was too busy ducking to pay much attention to her anyway.".
 
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