Empty Holster in Post Office?

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How it is in the land of Lincoln..

I don't know if we're unique because the post office in little old Prospect Heights, Il. population 17,000+-.has metal detectors inside the lobby. In order to approach the counter (6 locations,only 2 ever manned) you must pass through the detecter. If you want to check your po box, no need. I guess they think a shooter could not hurt the clerks behind laminated wood counter from 15' away. I also noted that the Social Security Office here has an armed guard :what: and a buff, alert young stud, not some near retirement ex pd. It struck me, why do these innocuous federal establishments require such defenses in a land where guns are forbidden? None of the local banks have armed guards any more, the bankers have capitulated and see the tellers as sacrificial while use of cameras has proliferated to the point of ubiquetisness. The lamp posts have "red light cameras" and BIg Brother is watching. I'm waiting to see an armed guard at a grocery store. That will be my bellweather for BOB.:fire:
 


Thanks for saving me some time, NavyLT.

From CFR Title 39 Sec 232.1(p)(2)
...Nothing contained in
these rules and regulations shall be construed to abrogate any other
Federal laws or regulations of any State and local laws and regulations
applicable to any area in which the property is situated...

This is the section that, for all intents and purposes, makes USC Title 18 Sec 930(d)(3) rule:

USC Title 18 Sec 930(d)(3)
...(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

BUT, the open wearing of an empty holster will give the Post Office's security officer PC to search your vehicle if it's on federal property.

and no whining from you folks outside of Texas; this is federal code, not ours.


 
IllHunter said:
I don't know if we're unique because the post office in little old Prospect Heights, Il. population 17,000+-.has metal detectors inside the lobby. In order to approach the counter (6 locations,only 2 ever manned) you must pass through the detecter. If you want to check your po box, no need.

That's probably not a metal detector. It's a magnetic strip scanner just like the ones at Wal-Mart to deter shoplifting. That's why you don't have to pass through them to get to the PO boxes...nothing to steal. Think about it. When you and everyone else walks through your "metal detector", do you have to do the whole airport thing and empty your pockets, take off your coat, take off your belt, etc? I'm betting not and since the "detector" does not go off, it's obviously not a metal detector. Establishments aren't going to use metal detectors as it is too much of a hassle for everyone, not to mention the expense and maintenance of the things.

csmkersh said:
USC Title 18 Sec 930(d)(3)
...(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or (3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

How does that last part relate to a person legally carrying?
 
I recently forgot to remove my 'small of the back' holster when I flew to Chicago. The inspection guy had me remove from my belt, continued to "wand" me all over, handed the holster back to me and said have a good flight.

Like some people have said, piece of nylon and a metal clip...not a weapon.

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Better to take it off than be known as a stranger-ranger with the local cops while your permit is pending.

Kharn
 
I don't know if we're unique because the post office in little old Prospect Heights, Il. population 17,000+-.has metal detectors inside the lobby.. In order to approach the counter (6 locations,only 2 ever manned) you must pass through the detecter.

It is probably not an actual metal detector (unless it is once of those bad areas where they have bullet proof glass in front of the counter). Mostly likely it is just once of those RFID tag detectors that keep you from stealing stamps without paying for them.

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fairfax1 said:
It is probably not an actual metal detector (unless it is once of those bad areas where they have bullet proof glass in front of the counter). Mostly likely it is just once of those RFID tag detectors that keep you from stealing stamps without paying for them.

Already been addressed just three scant posts above yours...see post #54. :rolleyes:
 
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