Ever have one of those days? My CZ-97B broke!

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Ever have one of those days where you just should've stayed in bed?

I woke up, after not getting enough sleep, to go help my mom down at our farm (I help her feed the horses). I notice a small blotch on my back. Great, I think. A recurrance of the damned shingles that I had last year about this time. Is this going to be an annual friggin' event, I wonder?

*sigh*

Well, since then the blotch has disappeared, filling me with much relief. When I got the shingles last year, I noticed it early and got to the doctor, before it started to get too painful (the pain did keep me up all night once, though; it's quite unpleasant). I was mostly relieved, though, because the medication to whip the shingles costs around $300.00.

Anyway, from one thing to another. I take my CZ-97B to the range, with a hundred and fifty rounds of Fiocci .45ACP hardball.

On the 141st round, I pull the trigger. Click. I drop out the magazine, and some small part that I can't see falls with it and disappears into the grass. Examining the pistol, there's a spring sticking out of the top of the slide and another spring sticking down into the slide. The little plunger that serves as a loaded chamber indicator is gone.

I pack up, and drive home. Once home I examine the slide. I remove the little plate on which the loaded chamber indicator is located, and reassemble the pistol. I load it and cyle a few rounds; except for having a small gap, through which you can see the rim of the round when it's chambered, the pistol cycles normally (though I haven't fired it so configured). The LCI does seem to be a non-essential part.

So, hell. I've got well over 2,000 rounds through the pistol (this is my second year of owning it). I'm going to call CZ-USA on Monday (they're not open on weekends) and see what they say. I suspect I'll just have to mail them the slide and they'll fix it (just like when I mailed in the barrel for a free throat & polish job).

So, we'll see. I think perhaps they should've just left the loaded chamber indicator off, and had a solid-topped slide. I mean, I don't see the utility of it. In the morning, you pick up your pistol, chamber a round, holster it, and you assume it's loaded for the rest of the time it's in your control. If you take it off, or go to sleep, or have the pistol out of your control for any amount of time, you pull the slide back and observe the chamber when you regain control of it, re-holster it, and you're all set.

Honest, I don't see a use for the LCI. But...whatever, it's a nice pistol anyways.

Oh, yeah. I was doing awful today, shooting. I'm rusty! :(
 
Was this the 97 that's had the .45 Super through it?

I'm not saying that's the problem, in fact I'd like to hear that the 97 is indestructible, but I imagine that might have accelerated the failure of some parts.
 
I've had 40 rounds total of .45 Super loads through it, and it's been probably a year. Probably a hundred rounds, if not less, of regular +P stuff. The rest has been standard pressure .45ACP.

I'm not too upset, in any case. Parts break, that's why you have warranties.

Interesting, though, that the LCI can be removed and the pistol still assembled and cycled. I do not know if it should be fired without the LCI plate, but from looking at it I don't imagine it could hurt. It seems to really be a non-critical part.

The reason the gun didn't fire when the plunger dropped out is becuase the spring was sticking down into the slide, and prevented it from going into battery.

I was happy, though, to note that despite my being very rusty, I can tell the pistol is extremely accurate. Soft shooting, too, with all that steel on the frame. :)

I still recommend the CZ-97 to anybody who's looking for a double action .45. Just make sure it fits your hand; it's kind of big in the butt.

I've been rough on mine. .45 Super (well, forty whole rounds, but still), firing it with dirt in the action, and some long shooting sessions. Aside from this little spring, it's held up well. (Compared to the first handgun I owned, a used Charles Daly 4", whose guide rod broke after about 200 rounds of shooting standard level loads, the CZ-97 has been gem.) But...well, it's a weapon, not a fabrige egg.


EDIT: Looking at it again, there's a LOT of crud built up under where the LCI plate goes. It's possible that carbon buildup had something to do with it; I haven't cleaned under there since I've had the pistol. (I haven't taken it apart beyond field stripping. I did give the whole thing a good dose of gun scrubber last year, though.)
 
That sucks.

For me, every day that I show up at work I regret. :barf: As for shooting though, I did have a decent shooting day yesterday. The only problem is that I can't find anybody that lives by me that won't wuss out over mosquitos, or get tired after 45 minutes of shooting -- any excuse will do, basically. :scrutiny:

Like my mom says, I need to clone myself. Then I can hang out and go shooting with... myself. :rolleyes:

Wes
 
Wondernine...

BINGO! That's exactly what happened! The "barrel stop screw" backed its way out (I guess I just didn't notice it; it's a very small screw) and the loaded chamber indicator nut, spring, and the indicator itself came off.

So I'm not the only one this has happened to. *shrug*

Thanks! I'll call CZ-USA on Monday.
 
Thanks for the cautionary to the 97 o philes among us who have not yet encountered this. Apparently a dab of locktite will remedy it.

I had mine out the range yesterday, and it continues to amaze me. It puts them all in the same hole with little effort, while my 1911 and Sig 220 put them in a small group while working harder at it.

I second the notion that anyone who can fit it in their hand get one :p
 
Sorry to hear about your trouble with your 97b. I have had my fair share.
Mike will also answer e-mails. You can now only reach him on Mon.'s and Thur. over the phone.

Good Luck!

Nik
 
In 1983 I bought a brand spanking new, made in the USA, Walther PPK/s .380. In the middle of the second magazine the loaded chamber indicator broke in half flinging the rearward portion into my face. Thank you Ray-Ban.

It took Interarms nearly a month to get me a replacement so I shot it a thousand rounds or so without it. To be honest if I hadn't bought it new I wouldn't have worried about it. But it was the principle.

As for the opening in your slide without it... fuggedaboudit. Shoot it the way it is. In fact I put a notch in my barrel hood on my .45s to serve as a LCI.
 
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