Sergeant Sabre
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So as not to hijack another thread, I've started this one.
The gears in my mind were started by this comment:
To which I wish to respond:
Ya okay. The laws you speak of, as written in Michigan, specifically exempt police personnel who violate the above laws in the course of their official duties. So they are within the law.
The police are more within the law now than ever before. PDs are constantly on their toes and they are successfully sued all the time. More than ever before individual officers are being criminally prosecuted for indescretions on the job. Criminals are ever more emboldened by the restraints on use-of-force that agencies and society places on police. It used to be that cops only had hands, a stick, and a revolver. If hands didn't work, you'd better hope for the stick. Now, many PDs have stopped carrying sticks and even metal flashlights so they don't hurt scumbags. What do you want me to do out there, anyway? I'd like to put some of these whiney people in front of some of the violent scum we have to deal with and see what their attitude is then.
What do you want, exactly? To make it illegal for the police to seize drugs because they they would be posessing them?
How is lying to a suspect illegal, anyway? That's an outstanding investigative tool.
As criminals continue to become more violent, more depraved, bolder, braver, and more defiant of the police, why do we continue to restrict appropriate uses of force? This mentality has infected some officers so badly that they have been hurt or killed because of their hesitation and reluctance to use immediate and decisive action to respond to a threat.
I'd also like to direct you to the following articles:
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=19&id=34697
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33173
The gears in my mind were started by this comment:
Sorry but the PD doesn't have to obey the law, just the people they police.
That's why the police are allowed to buy drugs, sell drugs, pose as johns in prostitution stings, pose as prostitutes in john stings, lie to people during the course of investigations etc. etc. etc. We have allowed the police to operate outside the law in the name of the law. Now we are reaping the rewards of that folly. When the law applys to only some of the people but not all of the people society is no longer truly free.
To which I wish to respond:
Ya okay. The laws you speak of, as written in Michigan, specifically exempt police personnel who violate the above laws in the course of their official duties. So they are within the law.
The police are more within the law now than ever before. PDs are constantly on their toes and they are successfully sued all the time. More than ever before individual officers are being criminally prosecuted for indescretions on the job. Criminals are ever more emboldened by the restraints on use-of-force that agencies and society places on police. It used to be that cops only had hands, a stick, and a revolver. If hands didn't work, you'd better hope for the stick. Now, many PDs have stopped carrying sticks and even metal flashlights so they don't hurt scumbags. What do you want me to do out there, anyway? I'd like to put some of these whiney people in front of some of the violent scum we have to deal with and see what their attitude is then.
What do you want, exactly? To make it illegal for the police to seize drugs because they they would be posessing them?
How is lying to a suspect illegal, anyway? That's an outstanding investigative tool.
As criminals continue to become more violent, more depraved, bolder, braver, and more defiant of the police, why do we continue to restrict appropriate uses of force? This mentality has infected some officers so badly that they have been hurt or killed because of their hesitation and reluctance to use immediate and decisive action to respond to a threat.
I'd also like to direct you to the following articles:
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=19&id=34697
http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=33173