Everyone else has a Wal-Mart thread...

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Ok, so there are countless posts on THR about people's experience while buying at Wal-Mart. I'd never bought a gun at Wal-Mart, so it got me really curious how my local Wal-Mart handles gun sales.

I wasn't really in the market for anything that Wal-Mart carries, but I didn't own a 10/22, and I think somewhere there's something that says I'm supposed to. Anyway, the closest Wal-Mart (the one on I-20 in Grand Prairie) didn't have a 10/22 in stock. The guy who answered the phone knew what a 10/22 was, but acted reluctant to check their stock. The few times I've been there (I don't like to shop at Wal-Mart), the gun displays were pretty barren. A quick call to the second-closest Wal-Mart (Uptown Blvd in Cedar Hill), and I located one for purchase.

I left work and drove down to Cedar Hill. I found a parking spot and ventured in. I was met by my favorite Wal-Mart fixture, the greeter. It was an elderly black woman who was working very diligently to make sure she said, "Hi," to everyone that walked in, and to give the little smiley faces to the kids.

I wandered back to the sporting goods department, where an older gentleman named Wilson greeted me immediately upon walking near the counter, even though I was trying to be somewhat unobtrusive. After wandering around the department for a minute, I approached Wilson and told him I'd like to purchase the 10/22 in the case. He said, "Are you the guy that just called," to which I answered in the affirmative. He said that he thought that he had one in the back in the box, and he'd check for me. He left and was back in about 5 minutes.

He asked me if I was familiar with the 4473, to which I replied, "Not really." He proceded to walk me through filling it out, and made sure to clarify that I couldn't abbreviate and if I messed up on 1-12 I could start over, but not if I messed up on 13 on. If I messed up after 12, he said, he couldn't sell me a gun. Those are the questions where you can disqualify yourself.

Anyway, I dutifully filled out the 4473, and he checked it over and then started to dial the phone. He was on the phone for about 3 minutes and then said, "You're approved." I mentioned that I had a CHL, and he looked really embarrassed. He apoligized for "holding me up," but I wasn't really that worried about it. He finished his internal paperwork and then called a manager over. The manager reviewed the paperwork and then started to ring it up.

When he rung it up, I said that I needed to buy some 9mm ammo. He looked really sheepishly at me and said that they can't sell ammo when you are buying a gun. I gave him the raised eyebrow look, and he proceeded to tell me that he already knew how lame the policy was since I'm buying a .22LR and I want 9mm ammo, but he said that was the policy and he valued his job. I wasn't too broken up about it, so I paid and they escorted me out.

All in all, it was less frustrating than some of the trips I've had to actual gun stores, but I did get to experience the joys of corporate "wisdom" with the whole "can't buy guns and ammo at the same time."
 
Interesting experience. I wonder if Wal-Mart could be convinced to drop the "no ammo with gun purchase" rule for CHL holders? Not much point in denying a gun and ammo to someone who brought their own after all.

To be fair to Wal-Mart though, they were sued around 2002 after someone bought a gun and ammo in their store and proceeded to commit suicide right there in the department. I imagine the new policy of trying to make buying the product you sell as hostile and inconvenient as possible is related to that lawsuit.

Perhaps that policy will change again if we are successful in Washington DC and Wal-Mart no longer has to fear being attacked by hordes of lawyers being paid off a Joyce Foundation grant for conducting legal business.
 
that 'no ammo purchase when buying a gun' is more of an individual store kinda thing. or maybe they just dont tell their employees about it up here. when i bought my marlin papoose from walmart they tried to sell me ammo with it but i was already stocked up at the moment.

i asked the lady ringing me up 'isnt there a storewide policy of not selling ammo when a gun is being purchased?' she looked at me as if i were the craziest person on the planet. 'of course we sell ammo with guns! what kind of hare-brained policy is that?"
 
Corporate idiocy. Typical.

Excuse me if I sort of (?) hijack this thread to comment on Wal-Mart's alter ego, Sam's Club. For several months now I have received mai announcements that my Sam's Club membership card was going to be replaced by a Discover card, which I would receive in the mail "soon." (Yeah, I confess to being a member -- part of a deal with my brother and sister-in-law, so we have access to all the membership club stores in the area without all of us having to join each and every one of them)

"Soon" apparently equates to about 4 months. The new card arrived in the mail last week, and as with all credit cards had a sticker across the number telling to dial 1-800-xxx-xxxx to activate the card. So I called. Midway through the process, the automated system instructed me to enter a 4-digit number, which would become my security identifier if I ever needed to contact them regarding the account ... and which would be different from the 4-digit PIN number I would use for cash advances.

My little brain immediately froze. How was I supposed to choose a number, on the spur of the moment, that might not be used for a year or two or five, yet if I couldn't remember it when I needed it, I would never be able to talk to them about my own account? So I entered nothing, and after a long pause a live person came on the line. She explained again that I should pick a 4-digit number. I in turn explained that, if this number was to be secure, it must not be a number I already use for any other account. Therefore, I explained, I would be virtually guaranteed to forget it within 15 minutes of hanging up the phone. I asked why they couldn't do like every other cradit card company, and use my mother's maiden name or the name of my favorite pet when I was a kid, or something that has MEANING, so I would at least have an outside possibility of remembering it.

No, she said, that was not possible. "Does this mean that you wish to decline the offer, Sir?" she then asked.

"Offer? WHAT offer?"

"The offer for a Discover card," she said.

I then explained to her that I had no idea this was an "offer," that I had received multiple mailings informing me that my membership card WOULD BE REPLACED by this new Discover card. "Are you now telling me that I can continue to use my existing membership card, and I don't have to take this new Discover card?" I asked.

She confirmed that I could, indeed, continue to use my existing card ... a fact totally at odds with the several mailings I had recived over the course of several months. So I thanked her and cut up the Discover card into small pieces, then sent an e-mail to Sam's Club to complain about their misleading promotion of this new card.

This morning I received a phone call from Sam's Club, asking how they could help me. I explained again to this woman what had happened, and that I felt their promotions of the new card had been misleading, if not outright fraudulent, because it had been very clearly stated that the Discover card would replace the membership card. It was not at all clear that this was an "offer" I was free to decline. She made multiple attempts to sidestep that entire issue, and instead to focus on why they asked for a 4-digit security number rather than some piece of information I could recall when necessary. I repeatedly told her that was NOT what I was complaining about.

I still haven't decided if she heard me and didn't want to ackowledge it, or if she really didn't undertsand that I don't like being lied to. She just kept denying that they had ever indicated the Discover card was anything other than an optional "enhancement of your membership experience."

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I wonder if Wal-Mart could be convinced to drop the "no ammo with gun purchase" rule for CHL holders? Not much point in denying a gun and ammo to someone who brought their own after all.
See, that's using logic, something that corporations rarely show. Logic would also dictate that the reasoning behind the policy is so that someone couldn't shoot themselves in the store, which doesn't really apply to buying 9mm with a .22 rifle.

I wholeheartedly agree, though.
 
Hmm. Interesting about that Discover Card incident. Having been a SAM's Club member for about 8 years now, I've never had SAM's force anything on me without my acceptance. For the past couple of months, they've been pushing the upgrade to the Discover Card membership cards. Having received the mailings and the push from the employees whenever I went there for the upgrade, I simply did not reply (accept via mailing application) or declined after reading the mailings and inquired about the upgrade. I knew what the ramifications were. My membership was never change to Discover and I still have my basic SAM's only level (which is usable at Wal*Mart). (The upgrade to Discover requires an upgrade in membership level from Advantage to Advantage Plus which has a higher annual fee. Didn't want or need it.)

Did you sign the forms to upgrade your membership?
 
He asked me if I was familiar with the 4473, to which I replied, "Not really."

Hmmmm :scrutiny: with all the toys you bring to the range I'm sure you could fill it out with your eyes closed and using your left hand/foot. I think may be you were conducting your own mini social experiments :)

Congratulations on your new purchase and way to go on making it in and out of Walmart without too much hassle.

When I went to Amarillo, I headed to the closest (maybe only) Walmart there to buy some .38 to take my wife shooting and to ask about the best place to shoot and fish. I figured there'd be a good old boy at the ammo counter that would know what's what. As my wife and I walked up I saw good old lady behind the counter and thought "Damn it" but only whispered "Bad luck" to my wife.
Well, it turned out a good old boy was around restocking some counters and both him and the nice lady told us all we needed to know about the local ranges and fishing holes :).
I cought no fish :( , my wife cought a lot of sun and we shot 100 rounds of .38 down the lane at the range (Panhandle Gunslingers). It was her 1st time :D

If you don't have a Walmart expereince go get one :)

Nik
 
I never heard of the no simultaneous gun/ammo purchase. I bought a shotgun and shells a few years ago at Wally World at the same time and nothing was said about it. Is this a new policy?

The $64,000 questions is: How long will you have the 10/22 before you mount a light on it? :neener:
 
The $64,000 questions is: How long will you have the 10/22 before you mount a light on it?

All he has to do is take one off of one of his lego AR's. With all the stuff he mounts on those it looks like he has at least two on each one :neener:
 
Well, I'm trying to find a stock with rails that free-floats the barrel, first... :evil:

Hmmmm with all the toys you bring to the range I'm sure you could fill it out with your eyes closed and using your left hand/foot. I think may be you were conducting your own mini social experiments
Yes, I was partially conduction an experiment, but also, every shop seems to have some minor difference in filling them out, so I usually get the local "expert" to walk me through it.
 
I better not see my Larue light on that thing saturday :scrutiny:

The only problem I've ever had at wally world is having to basically walk behind the counter to put my finger directly on the caliber of ammo I want because about 99% of the time they are clueless.
 
Interesting...

Last time I bought a gun at Wal-Mart, it was a 10/22. BATF pinged them on some info on the back of the 4473 (the part the SELLER fills out) during an audit. Wal-Mart sent me a letter and when I called them, they told me I had drive to the store. When I got there some clueless manager type tried to get me to help them fix the error. I've never filled out the BACK of a 4473, and as far as I could tell the BATF was upset because they used an abbreviation instead of spelling something out. All the information was correct. I helped them as much as I could, but what a goat-rope.
 
3 years ago I tried to buy myself a birthday gun at the local WM..what a farce..NOBODY on duty knew how to even begin the process,so after and hour I just gave up and went home. shees. :banghead:
On a good note our local store carries presses,powder,primers,bullets,dies,tumblers.etc. :)

Hmmm,I guess after three years i could try it again....


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Just last summer I walked into a Walmart to get one of those new stainless 10/22s with the 22" barrel and also bought a couple of value packs of .45ACP. No problem they said--I just couldn't buy .22LR and the gun at the same time. My guess is that the gun/no ammo thing is on more of a store by store basis. BTW my gun buy went quick and smooth too--no longer than some of the gun show purchases I've made.
 
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