explain appeal of single-shot rifles

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In the blackpowder era, you were limited by blackpowder pressures, so if you wanted more power, you had to have a lot larger case. Building a repeating rifle around 4 or 5 inch long cases would have resulted in something that was very heavy.

It is hard to beat a Remington rolling block for simplicity. It is almost intuitive to operate. Just pull the hammer back, roll the block, load the cartridge. This does have a military advantage and the vast amount of rolling block sales were to Armies. Given that all Militaries of the period abhorred “cartridge wastage”, it is no doubt that single shot military rifles were primary arms up to the 1890’s and were still used by Colonial troops in WW1. The African troops of General Paul Emil von Lettow-Vorbeck, used Mauser 71’s against the British until they replaced them with captured Lee Enfields!

The Martini Henry action should be back in production because it is such a well designed action. Very few parts, easy to take the breech block out, and it is very strong and protects the shooter from gas release.

The Trapdoor was a mistake. The US Army never wants to change, so they come out of the Civil War and there were all these excellent single shot designs, and instead of adopting one of them, they pick a rifle that is the closest they could get to an 1861 musket and still be able to use a cartridge! That Trapdoor was used against the Spanish, in Cuba and the Philippines, who had M1894 Mausers and 7mm Mauser cartridges!. What a retrogressive move!

If you shoot small bore prone, you have to use a single shot rifle. Prior to WW1, when the small bore prone was evolving in the US, you shot 50 yards slow fire, 75 yards rapid fire, 100 yards slow fire, and 125 yards rapid fire. I think the rapid fire sequences ended just after WW1, by the time you get into the 30’s it was all slow fire. But the target rifles had magazines. It was legal to load the magazines and shoot from the magazine. I was told that this all came to an end after Arthur E Cook. Arthur E Cook was an 1948 Olympic Champion http://pronematch.com/all-american-smallbore-and-air-rifle-shooters-and-olympic-gold/ and figured out that loading up the magazine and shooting as fast as possible in the same wind conditions was great way not to drop points. Other competitors were unhappy about that and the rules were changed to make you load the rounds, one at a time, in small bore prone.
 
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For serious hunting I would always opt for a repeater. Don't get me wrong, one shot, one kill is a credo that all hunters should adopt. However, on more than one occasion I made two shots, two kills, (hogs and turkeys).

I owned a Browning 1895 single shot rifle in 22-250 Remington years ago and used it to shoot prairie dogs. In my excitement I overheated the barrel one Summer day and retired it.

The Ruger Model 1's are nice looking and I admire the rugged build. However, they are not as available as they once were. Even as rugged and stout built as these rifles are, IMHO, the actions are not as strong as nor do they offer the accuracy of a bolt action rifle. So if you are thinking about getting one you may want to keep this in mind.

Good Shooting!!!
 
bushmaster,i have the same ruger rsi in 45/70.
while they still are available,the knight kp1 is a great single shot.
they are light. easier for us old farts to carry.less rifle weight,more snacks and toilet paper to carry.
as far as the knight kp1,easier to transport as it's a takedown multi calber setup
 
Not as strong???
Exactly. I believe that the No. 1 is one of the strongest actions available.

I told my wife that now that I need to buy a No. 1 so I can teach the full NRA Basic Rifle course without having to borrow any guns, but she's still resisting. So far. Still working on her.

Matt
 
Why a single-shot? Because sometimes the firearm you want comes that way. Because you have 3 children under age 9 which makes ammo supervision of paramount importance. Because each of those kids deserves their own rifle. Because some States have a muzzleloader season for whitetail. Because you can never have too many options.

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...The Trapdoor was a mistake...


Not sure I see it as a mistake or even a bad choice. It made use of existing materials on hand. It was an economical way to rearm a peacetime Army. It was fully capable of containing the pressure limitations of the era (and even the next era by the time it was being replaced). It worked. Not a whole lot to be viewed negatively.
 
The falling block single shots like the Ruger No. 1 are very strong and accurate, but the inexpensive break open designs like the H&R Handi Rifle are not.
 
Not cheap, but not as expensive as a Ruger No 1. Add action work and costs went up.

I do like cheap single shots for the young grandkids.

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My friend grew up in a poor family, using an inexpensive .22 single shot with open sights. Could knock the eye out of a Squirrel at distances I'd be happy if I could just hit the squirrel.
I think what is attractive about them is the fact that a person who can't afford the finer things in life can at least own a firearm, and not feel guilty of neglecting his family.
 
ruger#1 in 270 win.
t/c encore both with 16 1/4" MGM Barrels , 6.5 creedmoor and 20 vartarg, with high plains gun stock(rifle)

they are dead accurate, 3 shots at 100yards, .3"- 270 win & 6.5cm; .2"-20vt
i only need to shot once at a deer and varmints
this is coming from a guy who has had a stroke, only has about 20% on the right leg and arm, and can barely talk

next for the encore is a 21" MGM Barrel in 257 bob ai and 18-20" MGM Barrel in 357 maxium
 
The OP's question is unanswerable............re phrase it: What's the appeal of red heads as opposed to blonds or brunettes...........it all depends on what you like and if you get that personal satisfaction you want, doesn't it?
 
A lot of modern single shot rifles are bolt action. Both of mine have bolt actions. If you look around at the top BR shooting competition rifles are single shot bolt action rifles. Here's one example of a nice varmint rifle. It's a single shot, bolt action Savage 12 LRPV in .223 with a left hand ejection port chamber and a fluted barrel. This one doesn't have the Target AccuTrigger which is the best trigger Savage makes. Other examples of this rifle do have the Target trigger. These rifles also have H-S Precision stocks. Those rifles produce very tight groups out to about 500 yards or more. They have mag fed versions f this rifle but clearly the single shot models are the most accurate. The extra stiffness around the chamber makes a difference.

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BTW the image is from the Savage web site.

It is true that some of the break down rifles lost stiffness because of their design. They have also lost popularity over the past few decades because they aren't as accurate as bolt action rifles.
 
Add to the list:

Savage Rascal
Savage Cub
Savage Mk I
Keystone Crickett
Muzzleloaders

I own a Cub, a Rascal, Knight Wolverine, and a Rossi and have put hundreds of rounds through my father's Encore Pro Hunter with its .300 Win., .223 and .50 cal. barrels.

I have some half dozen or more repeating rifles as well but I've never felt compelled to choose one or another based solely on feed method. With the rimfires, I simply keep reloads between the fingers of my support hand, grabbing them as I cycle the action. It won't beat split times against a magazine but it ain't overly slow either. I also carry a Savage single-shot .410 for rabbit on occasion, though (of course) it's not a rifle.
 
The Savage .22 which my grandfather bought in the 1940's was designed that way, maybe because it was cheaper to manufacture (?).

People tell me that it is higher production quality than many modern .22s.
 
They are just prettier, that's all.

They don't make you a better shot, regardless of what people might tell you. If you're smart you'll take a little more care with what shot you take, since you probably only get one, but you won't be any better than if you had practiced with a bolt action or semi auto. And most people don't seem smart enough to wait for a better shot anyway.
 
Hello,

For me, it's largely based on how quickly I need a follow-up shot.

My squirrel rifle is a heavy-barreled varminter type .22LR with high-powered optics. I like to pick 'em off at long range, sometimes. Most times the magazine is just there as a convenience as I could very easily reload between squirrels.

However, there have been one or two times when I dialed the 'scope back, sat up, and took multiple squirrels by virtue of the repeating bolt action. During these times storms were coming in and squirrels were all over preparing for 'em.

On the other hand, my deer rifle is a T/C New Englander I use with round ball. I light that thing off and I'm either going to kill a deer or it's going to run. Either way, the two minutes I take to properly reload it (spit patch, two dry patches, measure powder, pour powder, seat ball on patch, ram home) simply doesn't matter.

Defensive firearms should always be repeaters.

Other firearms should be what you handle best. For some, that's a single-shot rifle.

Regards,

Josh
 
Because you like the challenge of that one shot, the time it takes to be confident in it, the patience it demands to wait for it to be perfect, and the desire to make it count.
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Maybe because I have yet to find a shotgun that can do this at over 200yds over and over again
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So these plus my bow (another single shot if you think about it) came with me on my hunting trip
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I do not understand how, if I miss with the first shot, the critter will still be around for the second.

In the time it takes to cycle the bolt, work the lever, whatever, the critter's long gone.

Even with a semi-auto, I have a running critter on my hands and risk an imperfect or wounding shot if I take it.

When I hunt, I settle the crosshairs or front sight behind the foreleg or on the head and squeeze off. Mostly it's small game, and I've never lost an animal. Almost, once, due to a frisky squirrel that decided it could live with a Remington subsonic through the chest, and I did put another through the head, but it wasn't near any holes that it could crawl in and that one to the head was likely wasted.

I found out later that Remington subsonic .22 is harder than, say, CCI, and doesn't as readily expand.

Still, that gray squirrel was dead and just hadn't realized it yet.

Never have I absolutely had to have a second shot.

Maybe I don't take the shots some do? I don't know. I never considered a single-shot as being any particular challenge and always considered the magazine as backup rounds in case there were multiple targets in the area.

Is this the general view, or do most folks hit their quarry more than once when using a magazine gun?

Regards,

Josh
 
"Is this the general view, or do most folks hit their quarry more than once when using a magazine gun?"


That's pretty much how hunting works, unless you are hunting Cape Buffalo at close range with a .450 Nitro Express double rifle. Then you shoot 'em twice...

That's still not a magazine rifle though. Many hunters take dangerous game with a single shot rifle although the PH's will always shoot a bolt magazine rifle and are going to be very quick with a backup shot for their client if needed.



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