Betty
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I think this thread needs to be floated again.
Expressing yourself obscenely
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bogie
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Runt, the problem is that every time I seen a big hairy tarantula, I go bleepin' nuts! Heck, I scream like a girl, and try to climb the tallest thing in the neighborhood.
Which means that you're safe, but Oleg's likely to get bootprints on his ears...
Which means that you're safe, but Oleg's likely to get bootprints on his ears...
Gus Dddysgrl
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haha y'all are funny.
I don't know if it's education, homelife, environment, or something else that makes people "talk dirty." I live in the city and people use not so nice language all the time. Course half the time I have no idea what the word means I just know I'm suppossed to be offended.
Also I am an English Education major and like finding creative ways to say something. Especially if it is meant to offend and takes the other person too long to figure it out cause I'll be far far away by that time. And when I do begin teaching I plan on not letting my kids use any obscene language in my class room and will teach them ways to always be polite and not cuss.
Also there are many ways to express how you feel about something or express strong language without using anything romotely obscene. I mean it used to be a swear word in my dad's house to say fart. There is an extent to which it gets ridiculous, but there are nice ways to talk about anything.
I don't use most cuss words that I know. I think it's not good for my mind to be settling on something so base and discusting. Why should I? I do appriciate the work put in by everyone to not use some inappropriate words.
I think that using the smilies to show emotion or in place of cussing is good. We all understand the meaning of it, but no one is offended.
Squirt
I don't know if it's education, homelife, environment, or something else that makes people "talk dirty." I live in the city and people use not so nice language all the time. Course half the time I have no idea what the word means I just know I'm suppossed to be offended.
Also I am an English Education major and like finding creative ways to say something. Especially if it is meant to offend and takes the other person too long to figure it out cause I'll be far far away by that time. And when I do begin teaching I plan on not letting my kids use any obscene language in my class room and will teach them ways to always be polite and not cuss.
Also there are many ways to express how you feel about something or express strong language without using anything romotely obscene. I mean it used to be a swear word in my dad's house to say fart. There is an extent to which it gets ridiculous, but there are nice ways to talk about anything.
I don't use most cuss words that I know. I think it's not good for my mind to be settling on something so base and discusting. Why should I? I do appriciate the work put in by everyone to not use some inappropriate words.
I think that using the smilies to show emotion or in place of cussing is good. We all understand the meaning of it, but no one is offended.
Squirt
keyhole
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Oleg-
Well if nothing, you got everyone to read this, and most replied.
Thanks for doing a great job, and giving us a plce to kick back!
Well if nothing, you got everyone to read this, and most replied.
Thanks for doing a great job, and giving us a plce to kick back!
280PLUS
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correct me if i'm wrong,,,
but i thought thats what this "
" was for.
you know like: my gun jammed on me again...
or would that be considered too much implication
being an old sailor who learned the proper way to , drink and 
like a sailor, i'm not overly offended by mild cussing
i thought asterisks covered things too but i guess not...
so if at some point i stepped too far over the line for some of you please accept my humble apologies,
but i thought thats what this "
" was for.you know like: my
gun jammed on me again...or would that be considered too much implication
being an old sailor who learned the proper way to
, drink and like a sailor, i'm not overly offended by mild cussingi thought asterisks covered things too but i guess not...
so if at some point i stepped too far over the line for some of you please accept my humble apologies,
Profanity is an interesting thing.
I totally respect the reasons for the moderation of this board and am not arguing against them.
But profanity in the English language is one of those weird things we are trapped into paying attention to by social pressures.
I remember watching television when I was younger. The scene playing was of a gang of BG's beating down a single GG. They were hitting him with clubs and he was bleeding. It was quite forceful and vicious. And the thing that struck me as odd about the whole thing was how the bad words were bleeped out.
One of these days I'm gonna do a school project on profanity.
I totally respect the reasons for the moderation of this board and am not arguing against them.
But profanity in the English language is one of those weird things we are trapped into paying attention to by social pressures.
I remember watching television when I was younger. The scene playing was of a gang of BG's beating down a single GG. They were hitting him with clubs and he was bleeding. It was quite forceful and vicious. And the thing that struck me as odd about the whole thing was how the bad words were bleeped out.
One of these days I'm gonna do a school project on profanity.
Combat-wombat
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Okay, so we can still say "Damn" or "Hell" or "Crap", right?
This is getting silly...
Obscenity is nearly impossible to define, by law or any other means. A comprehensive list of what is prohibited has been requested, and has not been provided. I do not think it requires a George Carlin diatribe to accomplish this- but "what offends us at any given moment" is a little general to be of much value to the rest of us.
I recently got censored for referring to an individual, who had shot his wife and then himself in front of their children, as the slang term for a distant and poorly regarded member of the equine family. (Perhaps this was a dreaded 'personal attack', but I doubt the recipient was much offended.) This term was used daily by members of my family to refer to these animals themselves, as well as certain obstinate humans who emulate their less-desirable traits.
My childhood learning environment, evidently, was not up to 'high road' standards.
The keepers of this zoo can certainly set limits on what may be said within it's gates, which are left unlocked. We are free to come and go as we please. I, no more than anyone else, appreciate gratituitous vulgarity. I have spent a good number of years attempting to restore order among those who 'cuss' more often than they blink.
But I appreciate obscene stupidity even less.
All in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
Obscenity is nearly impossible to define, by law or any other means. A comprehensive list of what is prohibited has been requested, and has not been provided. I do not think it requires a George Carlin diatribe to accomplish this- but "what offends us at any given moment" is a little general to be of much value to the rest of us.
I recently got censored for referring to an individual, who had shot his wife and then himself in front of their children, as the slang term for a distant and poorly regarded member of the equine family. (Perhaps this was a dreaded 'personal attack', but I doubt the recipient was much offended.) This term was used daily by members of my family to refer to these animals themselves, as well as certain obstinate humans who emulate their less-desirable traits.
My childhood learning environment, evidently, was not up to 'high road' standards.
The keepers of this zoo can certainly set limits on what may be said within it's gates, which are left unlocked. We are free to come and go as we please. I, no more than anyone else, appreciate gratituitous vulgarity. I have spent a good number of years attempting to restore order among those who 'cuss' more often than they blink.
But I appreciate obscene stupidity even less.
All in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
prhm
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I'm suprised this thread has gotten this long. Oleg owns this site, and he is kind enough to let all of us hang out here with him. He asked us all very politely to watch what we say. I think that is the least we can do to show our appreciation.
Oleg Volk
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Sarge,
As I said in the PM sent moments ago, that incident was probably an over-reaction. However, each one of the moderators has to use personal judgement as to what's vulgar and what isn't, so such instances can and likely will happen again. They aren't motivated by ill will.
In my humble opinion, "jackass" (as applied to THR non-members) is no more a slur than "niggardly" was in that famous news story. However, I am the one once extended the auto-substitution (****) list to the point which raised the brows of other moderators, so I am not the one to talk about over-reaction.
In short, feedback on improving the way we keep the peace and civility here is welcome. Please remember that we act in good faith and that we do extend that assumption to your actions as well. If the comments your get don't mesh with your sensibilities, let us know by email or PM.
RustyHammer
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Oleg,
You have a tough job ... my hat is off to you. And, thanks again for this site. It's fantastic!
Rusty
You have a tough job ... my hat is off to you. And, thanks again for this site. It's fantastic!
Rusty
Thanks Oleg...
"If the comments your get don't mesh with your sensibilities, let us know by email or PM."
Actually, I did, and the same day of the incident. It was directed to Runt, but maybe she didn't get it. Our mail server can be quite contrary here.
And to both of you- I meant no disrespect to either of you with the 'obscene stupidity' comment. My only point was that some of the stupitity I read here (and everywhere else, including police reports) occasionally, probably offends me as bad or worse as the occasional explective does you.
Fine forum, and thank you for offering it.
"If the comments your get don't mesh with your sensibilities, let us know by email or PM."
Actually, I did, and the same day of the incident. It was directed to Runt, but maybe she didn't get it. Our mail server can be quite contrary here.
And to both of you- I meant no disrespect to either of you with the 'obscene stupidity' comment. My only point was that some of the stupitity I read here (and everywhere else, including police reports) occasionally, probably offends me as bad or worse as the occasional explective does you.
Fine forum, and thank you for offering it.
dongun
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I don't want to feel like the Lone Ranger, being the only member not posting to this thread. So here it is:
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heavens. Ecclesiastes 3.1
To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heavens. Ecclesiastes 3.1
general
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Durn it... I done it. Apologies to all. Will attempt intellect rather than emotion. (or emoticon rather)
No, NO, NOOOO! Don't you understand that someone MIGHT be offended?! Don't you understand that "peace and civility" are paramount here?
Please, in the future, try to make your point in as bland a manner as possible. Emotions have no place here; use Mr. Spock as your guide. We cannot risk offending ANYONE, especially since an anti-gunner may just lift something vulgar off this site and use it against firearms owners in general. That's right, an errant post on THR could just be the downfall of firearms ownership in America!!!
This is the future. Get used to it and, as the Rush song says, "conform or be cast out."
DAL
The ALTERNATE DAL speaks:
DAL, I detest people like you! Using thinly veiled sarcasm to make a protest against this fine site. What is the world coming to? If you were in front of me, I'd kick you tail up around your shoulder blades.
"Please, in the future, try to make your point in as bland a manner as possible." Look, son, if you don't like it here, start your own site. It's still a relatively free country, so have at it. What's the matter? Don't you have any idea how to start a discussion site of your own? So that's it, you dirty little punk. You'd rather snipe at others than do something about your perceived problem. It's people like you who are sending this country into the toilet. I'll bet you even voted for Clinton. Twice.
Oh, and "...an errant post on THR could just be the downfall of firearms ownership in America!!!" eh? Do me a favor, Einstein, and leave the absurdisms to George Carlin, et. al.
Why don't just go away and stop bothering everyone here? You don't contribute anything of value, your posts are boring, and you're probably a lousy shot. Go clean a gun or something and leave this site to the well-behaved (read: worthy) gun owners. Your type isn't wanted here.
the ALTERNATE DAL
DAL, I detest people like you! Using thinly veiled sarcasm to make a protest against this fine site. What is the world coming to? If you were in front of me, I'd kick you tail up around your shoulder blades.
"Please, in the future, try to make your point in as bland a manner as possible." Look, son, if you don't like it here, start your own site. It's still a relatively free country, so have at it. What's the matter? Don't you have any idea how to start a discussion site of your own? So that's it, you dirty little punk. You'd rather snipe at others than do something about your perceived problem. It's people like you who are sending this country into the toilet. I'll bet you even voted for Clinton. Twice.
Oh, and "...an errant post on THR could just be the downfall of firearms ownership in America!!!" eh? Do me a favor, Einstein, and leave the absurdisms to George Carlin, et. al.
Why don't just go away and stop bothering everyone here? You don't contribute anything of value, your posts are boring, and you're probably a lousy shot. Go clean a gun or something and leave this site to the well-behaved (read: worthy) gun owners. Your type isn't wanted here.
the ALTERNATE DAL
the ALTERNATE DAL speaks:
Oh my sweet...LIBERTARIAN?! You sissified little twirp. All they want to do is legalize drugs so they can get their share at a competitive price.
You a pot smoker, boy? You must be if you voted for a Libertarian candidate. Don't you know they have zero chance of winning? And don't go telling me some load like you were voting for your principles. All you did was insure that a Republican, the gun owner's only true friend, a friend who'll stand by you no matter what (unless it might cost them an election), didn't get your vote.
"BTW, thanks for your open-mindedness." There's that sarcasm again. Have you ever had you posterior handed to you, punk? You keep up with that kind of lip and I'll do it for you. You had better respect me and my mores, or else.
Please, just go away.
DAL
Oh my sweet...LIBERTARIAN?! You sissified little twirp. All they want to do is legalize drugs so they can get their share at a competitive price.
You a pot smoker, boy? You must be if you voted for a Libertarian candidate. Don't you know they have zero chance of winning? And don't go telling me some load like you were voting for your principles. All you did was insure that a Republican, the gun owner's only true friend, a friend who'll stand by you no matter what (unless it might cost them an election), didn't get your vote.
"BTW, thanks for your open-mindedness." There's that sarcasm again. Have you ever had you posterior handed to you, punk? You keep up with that kind of lip and I'll do it for you. You had better respect me and my mores, or else.
Please, just go away.
DAL
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