Teufelhunden
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I've previously posted a couple of threads about the praticality of using a high-end AK (Krebs KTR-03S) as a law-enforcement patrol carbine. Returns were favorable, moreso for one chambered in 5.45X39. The original thought for a patrol rifle other than an AR was based on the fact that though I qualified expert with the M16A2 every year I was in the Marine Corps, I never really liked it. At the risk of starting a 9mm vs. .45cal-esque debate, I'm also not thrilled with launching a .22cal projectile at my foe.
Regardless, when my department found out I was investigating one 'o them Ruskie guns', I got a big and was told that though it was not specifically 'required' per se, it was 'highly suggested' that my patrol rifle be in 5.56X45 or 7.62X51. Anyone who has been employed before knows that 'highly suggested' can hold more power than policy sometimes, so now I'm looking for something in .308.
Right now, my leading contestant is a DSA STG58 Para Tactical. Statistically, peace officer rifle engagements are within 100 yards, but I work for a county agency, so I'd like to be able to reach a little further out. I'd like to be able to hit man-sized targets at 300 yards--does the 16" barrel of the Para/Tac take too much off of the .308, or will I be fine to that range and beyond?
I know Hornady markets that their TAP .308 only penetrates 10"-12", but how will that do against building materials? One of the things that I'm favoring about .308 is that if there's some hard-cover to overcome, I can throw in a mag of FMJ and still be effective. However, going indoors after someone is a eventuality, so will a 110grn .308 still tend to start falling apart after a drywall wall or two? If not, is there a better option than TAP? Ultimately, I'm reluctant to fall into the trap of making a round so safe against misses that it won't work real well when it hits, but I do have to consider the fact that I have to account for all of my shots...
Lastly, DSA's listed price is $1,750-ish, but what I've found on the 'net seems to be closer to $1,400. Does that seem about right?
-Teuf
Regardless, when my department found out I was investigating one 'o them Ruskie guns', I got a big and was told that though it was not specifically 'required' per se, it was 'highly suggested' that my patrol rifle be in 5.56X45 or 7.62X51. Anyone who has been employed before knows that 'highly suggested' can hold more power than policy sometimes, so now I'm looking for something in .308.
Right now, my leading contestant is a DSA STG58 Para Tactical. Statistically, peace officer rifle engagements are within 100 yards, but I work for a county agency, so I'd like to be able to reach a little further out. I'd like to be able to hit man-sized targets at 300 yards--does the 16" barrel of the Para/Tac take too much off of the .308, or will I be fine to that range and beyond?
I know Hornady markets that their TAP .308 only penetrates 10"-12", but how will that do against building materials? One of the things that I'm favoring about .308 is that if there's some hard-cover to overcome, I can throw in a mag of FMJ and still be effective. However, going indoors after someone is a eventuality, so will a 110grn .308 still tend to start falling apart after a drywall wall or two? If not, is there a better option than TAP? Ultimately, I'm reluctant to fall into the trap of making a round so safe against misses that it won't work real well when it hits, but I do have to consider the fact that I have to account for all of my shots...
Lastly, DSA's listed price is $1,750-ish, but what I've found on the 'net seems to be closer to $1,400. Does that seem about right?
-Teuf