$60 to ship a handgun!!!

[oneounceload]

I worked a summer at a UPS sort facility when I taught school. Having a FFL at the time, I recognized who J&S, Davidson's, RSR and the other companies were as there handguns came through the facility via regular ground. There was NO way a facility person could steal a gun as we were checked in and out through a guard shack and metal detector. The only way a gun could come into the facility or go out was on a truck. Unfortunately, they started having losses that became expensive to pay and had the potential to leave them open as a deep pocket company to further lawsuits for a stolen gun being used in a crime on the street - that is the simple reason for these procedures

Can you ship it cheaper? Sure, find a FFL and he can use USPS.

OP, I am surprised Taurus, who brags about their lifetime warranty, didn't send you a shipping label. S&W did that for me without question.

If you want to hear a horror story, a friend bought a "boutique" shotgun from a small Italian maker - over $30K new. It had several issues and required him shipping it back to Italy 4 times on his cost - at $750 per trip - that's $3,000 to fix their problems. While beautiful, and now working, he doesn't trust it enough to use in competition so it sits in his safe

 

[youngda9]

Sounds like it might fit in a USPS flat rate box.

 

[Mike Sr.]

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[Mike Sr.]

Jorg that is only part of the issue...the other side of the coin on your posted info

BY FED LAW THE PACKAGE CAN NOT be ID'd as a firearm on the packaging !!!!!!!!!

johns gun shop should be JGS.

AS for over nite shipping of a gun...OP you need to PM me...the presented info is lacking......... .

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

It would, but ...

Sounds like it might fit in a USPS flat rate box.

You (collective) must have a FFL to send a handgun through the mail. There is no ambiguity in the law on this. It is perfectly OK, however, to pay a FFL to mail it. And you can mail parts of a firearm other than the frame/receiver.

 

[Mike Sr.]

""You (collective) must have a FFL to send a handgun through the mail. There is no ambiguity in the law on this. It is perfectly OK, however, to pay a FFL to mail it. ""

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

 

[BSA1]

I know from personal experience of several big gun wholesalers (you can find there full page ads in Shotgun News) that ship handguns regular ground.

Say what you want but I find it unbelievable that wholesalers that ship dozens of handguns a week would run the risk of breaking the law.

 

[oneounceload]

I know from personal experience of several big gun wholesalers (you can find there full page ads in Shotgun News) that ship handguns regular ground.

Say what you want but I find it unbelievable that wholesalers that ship dozens of handguns a week would run the risk of breaking the law.

They're not - they have FFLs and are legally allowed to do so. Folks without the FFL cannot ship a handgun via USPS, long guns, yes, handguns, no

S&W uses Fedex two day delivery via contract - the cheapest air method

 

[jad0110]

A local gunsmith might be able to resolve the pistol's issues for less than $60.

I wholeheartedly agree. Given my own lousy CS experience with Taurus, I find their lifetime warranty to be nearly worthless (not only did they not fix the gun, they actually messed it up even more). If you can find a knowledgeable local smith to fix it for under $100, I'd do that in a heartbeat. If my Taurus 431 ever needs work, that would be my plan.

Barring that, paying an FFL to send it USPS seems to be your next best option. I've never heard of Taurus agreeing to pay shipping to their facility.

What kind of problem are you experiencing exactly? Maybe some here kind diagnose the problem and you could perhaps fix it yourself. Worth a try anyway.

 

[gym]

That's the only way its can be done by a non dealer, it has to go fedex overnight in FL

 

[zxcvbob]

If you bought it from a local dealer, he might be willing to mail it back for cost.

Or you can ship it UPS Ground service at the local UPS Service Center counter (not Mailbox Express, etc) for about $6. Don't tell them what's inside and don't declare the package over $100 value. If UPS loses it you'll be out of luck, OTOH it's just a Taurus and a relatively inexpensive one at that.

When I realized my new Taurus was defective, I took it to a local gunsmith and paid to have it fixed. Probably cheaper in the long run that way.

 

[Swing]

Don't tell them what's inside and don't declare the package over $100 value.

Bad idea:

Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.

[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]

 

[sedona]

Appreciate the information

 

[zxcvbob]

Swing, wherever you copied that info, (I suspect it's a government FAQ page) it's wrong. You do not have to inform the carrier when shipping to a licensee, nor to any non-prohibited person residing in your own state.

I don't expect you to believe me; look up the actual statutes and read them for yourself.

 

[RickMD]

I once had a Browning Hi-Power customized by a well know pistol smith in the southwest. When I asked him how to ship it he told me to disassemble it and claim the contents were "precision machine parts". FedEx never questioned it and I assume he did it routinely with all his customers.

 

[Swing]

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[zxcvbob]

You highlighted the wrong part. (someone else wanna show him?)

 

[22-rimfire]

If you have a fair relationship with a FFL, have them ship it USPS insured and give the dealer $20 for his trouble. You're still saving money.

I ship a lot of 2lb packages next day FedEx (morning delivery) and I pay as much as $80 to ship.

 

[Swing]

You highlighted the wrong part. (someone else wanna show him?)

Changed as I can see how it could be interpreted either way. Still, the fact its on their site indicates how they view it. I wonder if there is any case law on it?

 

[dogtown tom]

It's Wednesday.......how to ship guns threads are supposed to be Mondays....

With literally DOZENS (if not hundreds) of THR threads on this topic.........why the heck is there so much bad information being given out?

 

[NavyLCDR]

You highlighted the wrong part. (someone else wanna show him?)

I will. The BATF themselves say that when shipping to an FFL or within the same state, no notification to the shipper is required. Their website FAQ is simply in error...

 

[NavyLCDR]

Jorg that is only part of the issue...the other side of the coin on your posted info

BY FED LAW THE PACKAGE CAN NOT be ID'd as a firearm on the packaging !!!!!!!!!

johns gun shop should be JGS.

Not exactly what is prohibited by 18 USC 922 (e). 18 USC 922 (e) only prohibits the CARRIER from marking the package to indicate it contains a firearm. 18 USC 922 (e) contains no prohibitions regarding addresses or markings that the sender places on the package:

No common or contract carrier shall require or cause any label, tag, or other written notice to be placed on the outside of any package, luggage, or other container that such package, luggage, or other container contains a firearm.

 

[Swing]

Interesting letter above. Curiously, its not just the FAQ, but it also appears in the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference (page 177).

 

[NavyLCDR]

Interesting letter above. Curiously, its not just the FAQ, but it also appears in the Federal Firearms Regulations Reference (page 177).

Which is nothing more than a reprint of the exact same FAQ.

 

[forestdavegump]

Sent a pistol in to Ruger, as per their instructions for a transfer bar kit install on an older revolver. They sent me out the box to ship it in, I had to pay around $50 bucks to send it in, and they sent it back at no charge. Not to mention, they cleaned everything, installed the kit, gave me two new cylinders as the .22mag cylinder was rusty? They replaced all the screws with new and sent me all the old parts too. It was sent back in less than a week.