FedEX clerk “we don’t ship guns”

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Originally posted by David E
Like, if the business posts a "no guns allowed" sticker on the door, will you ignore it, or risk it being stolen from your car? Or watch as a killer murders your parents a few feet from you because you did leave it in the car? (As happened to a woman at the Luby's massacre)
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Or how about you pick option three and don't enter the premises? That same instance has been discused many many times here as well. I just don't get why some gun owners think they are exempt from the rules.
 
Originally Posted by garand_man:
Not all UPS stores. I shipped a gun through a UPS store before and told the clerk that is was a gun.
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Yes, ALL USP Stores.

If you ship a handgun at a UPS Store, it is done in error and it breaks the terms and conditions of their tariff. This is the same as when someone doesn't inform the UPS jockey that it is a handgun; everything is fine, until you have to file a claim.

You, as the person using their service, are responsible for abiding by their terms. And just because the counter jockey said it was ok, doesn't mean squat to their legal and claims department (no one outside of their corporate office has the power to change the terms). You broke the terms and you will have an extremely hard time receiving payment for your loss.
 
My point was only to inform folks that Fedex does ship guns and that some clerks don’t know about the policy.
Calling ahead may produce the same negative response so I don’t see that as a help.
It is also interesting that another clerk made a company policy mistake as reported above when he asked “ground or air“. FedEX policy is air next day.

PS I can see the excitement if somebody walked in and laid some guns on the counter and said ship them.
Mine was disassembled, packed and ready for a ship label.
 
The Real Mags said:
That same instance has been discused many many times here as well. I just don't get why some gun owners think they are exempt from the rules.
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Well, I can explain that one for me. If I complied with every company's no firearms policy, I could not go to 99% of theaters to watch a movie because the big theater companies all have no firearms policies (posted or not) without leaving my gun behind.

I could not go into 99% of shopping malls without leaving my gun behind.

It would limit my ability to shop around and find a product for the lowest price.

IF I conceal my firearm properly, and ignore the no firearms policies, it is a win-win-win situation.

It benefits me with convenience, entertainment, and monetary savings.

I retain the ability to provide protection for myself and my family.

It affects absolutely no one around me because concealed is concealed.

It benefits the business because I spend money there.

Maybe in the remote chance that something does go down in the free victim zone I might be able to intervene and limit the number of casualties.

I do not break any laws by doing so (in Washington state).

What is on the negative side of the list? I ignore a sign?
 
Originally Posted by Bru88:
My point was only to inform folks that Fedex does ship guns and that some clerks don’t know about the policy.
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The same thing happened to me about five years ago.

One FedEx clerk straight up told me that they do not ship firearms... I disagreed. Two more people came out of the back and they weren't sure; so they pulled out a three inch thick rules and regs book and started to look.

Then a driver came from the back and he said that he was sure that they shipped guns, because he delivers them, from the manufacturers.


This was all in the span of five minutes... So I told them to wait while I got their regs for them. I had printed a copy from their website and had it in my car.
As soon as they saw my copy, they agreed that they had made a mistake and they accepted my HK.


Moral of the story.... Take a copy of their regs with you, just in case they can't come to a conclusion that you are following their rules.






And yes, I always inform the shipper that it is a firearm; due to insurance purposes.
 
Wow, I guess some folks don't have the pleasure of living in such a pro gun community as myself. The mall and theatre near my house ain't posted to be honest the only place posted that I frequent is a bank branch near my house but the same bank with a different branch isn't posted down the road. Maybe it is just easier for me to follow the rules, but I wouldn't break the rules if it was harder for me to go about my life beacuse it just ain't right. "The High Road" yeah right! More like the "I do what I want because following the rules is an incovenience road."
 
Let's say, due to a local disaster (like Katrina, tornado, etc) the local police chief announces: "No one will be armed. We'll go house to house to disarm people for the 'public safety.'"

So, now the "rules" dictate that you turn in your guns. Good rule or not ?
 
Let's say, due to a local disaster (like Katrina, tornado, etc) the local police chief announces: "No one will be armed. We'll go house to house to disarm people for the 'public safety.'"

So, now the "rules" dictate that you turn in your guns. Good rule or not ?
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Definitely NOT a good rule anywhere, but, unfortunately, in some states that is the law. You are making a very good point, regarding the difference between obeying laws - and ignoring requests made in the form of posting a sign - or requests made by LEO with no lawful basis behind those requests.
 
In the clerks defense, I'd imagine that it is pretty difficult to stay up on all of the regulations for a shipping company like FedEX or UPS. So taking a hard copy of the regulation that pertains to your shipment is wise.

As NavyLT said, "concealed is concealed." In the scenarios he described, it is a personal decision if the risk factors balance themselves out (Should I ignore my responsibility to keep my family safe and risk being a victim, or should I risk being asked to leave the premesis and a potential encounter with LEO's because I'm still carrying?). For me, it also depends upon what kind of environment I'm entering. For example, next weekend, I will be in Washington D.C. and I know that I will be entering buildings with metal detectors and very serious security personell. For those reasons, I will not carry. I will be extremely uncomfortable, but I will not carry. In this instance, it will not be worth the hassle. On the other hand, when I'm home and in the local supermarket or whatnot, I can carry with ease.
 
You guys are full of yourselves and you make responsible gun owners look bad. Good luck to you all you may need it.
 
Let's say, due to a local disaster (like Katrina, tornado, etc) the local police chief announces: "No one will be armed. We'll go house to house to disarm people for the 'public safety.'"
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So, now the "rules" dictate that you turn in your guns. Good rule or not ?
Definitely NOT a good rule anywhere, but, unfortunately, in some states that is the law. You are making a very good point, regarding the difference between obeying laws - and ignoring requests made in the form of posting a sign - or requests made by LEO with no lawful basis behind those requests.
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Waaaiiiit, wasn't there a federal-level law explicitly barring this type of action by effectively any governmental agency passed in the wake of the Katrina Gun Grab?
 
DRPP Act

On October 4, 2006 President George W. Bush signed into law the NRA-backed Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act of 2006 (incorporated into the Department of Homeland Security Appropriations bill). This legislation prohibits the confiscation of legal firearms from citizens during states of emergency by any agent of the Federal Government or anyone receiving Federal funds (effectively, any Federal, state, or local governmental entity). Introduced in Congress by Rep. Bobby Jindal and Sen. David Vitter, both of Louisiana, this bill enjoyed broad bipartisan support, passing the House of Representatives with a margin of 322-99 and the Senate by 84-16.
 
You guys are full of yourselves and you make responsible gun owners look bad. Good luck to you all you may need it.
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We make them look bad...........why, exactly?

You avoided my questions more than once, so we're done.

I'm reminded of an acquaintance that once told me that if guns are outlawed, he'd be first in line to turn them in. His name is Mark. Be sure and tell him hello for me.
 
Waaaiiiit, wasn't there a federal-level law explicitly barring this type of action by effectively any governmental agency passed in the wake of the Katrina Gun Grab?
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The problem is..........IT WAS ILLEGAL THE FIRST TIME !! and they did it anyway!
 
fedex and ups stores will not take gun packages. I was told by both and that only the headquarter in that county can. So yeah i had to drive 20-30mins away.
 
You guys are full of yourselves and you make responsible gun owners look bad. Good luck to you all you may need it.
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No, Mags, I'm not full of myself, I simply take the responsibility of protecting myself very seriously, and apparantly choose to do so in a manner offensive to you. In this instance, what they don't know doesn't hurt them.

"The High Road" yeah right! More like the "I do what I want because following the rules is an incovenience road."
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When those "rules" have a potential to get myself injured or killed, then no, I will not blindly follow them. I have told superiors to "pound sand" when their orders were foolish and destined to get men killed...I am merely doing the same here.
 
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