FedEx Shooting

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I heard about this on the radio today. The report I heard said the shooter had an "assault rifle and bullets taped to his chest." This report says he used a shotgun:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-georgia-fedex-shooting-20140429,0,1267118.story
Like any other mass shooting I fully expect the media to get all the details wrong and for the media to try to blame the tea party. But I only heard one breaking news alert and nothing else about it. Could it be that the media found out something that did not support their anti-gun agenda? Like maybe FedEx facilities are gun free zones? Did anyone else get this feeling today or did I just not have my radio on the right station to get the huge overflow of incorrect, misleading information, or outright lies? Did the media finally learn its lesson and just report the facts and as soon as it jumped to speculation, someone shut them up? Why was this not the top story on all the stations today? Are we finally winning the gun argument?
 
They will go after Georgia gun laws, but none of them were in play for this one - several pictures of the police in front of the facility showed nice BIG no guns signs. The rest of Kennesaw is well armed and defended - the killer deliberately went to the place where he knew law abiding citizens would be disarmed. The blame for this one lays with those who created criminal empowerment zones.
 
I expect them to blame a nut job with a gun.

The media reports I have read say he was armed with a shotgun and shot six people before committing suicide.

I'm sure the Fed Ex package handling center is a gun free zone. Most businesses are.
 
armoredman said:
the killer deliberately went to the place where he knew law abiding citizens would be disarmed.
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Complete speculation.

He was an employee, according to the news report. We may never know the motive, but I'd venture to guess it was a grudge rather than a random shooting based on a gun free zone location.
 
Of course it's complete speculation - at this time, with what limited information we have, it's all we can do. I thought I'd see how it is to play the part of the Main Stream Media and make it up out of whole cloth as they go along. ;)
We'll have some solid inf tomorrow, hopefully.
 
NavyLCDR said:
I expect they will blame the recent loosening of gun control laws in Georgia...."See! We told you blood would run in the streets!"
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The easiest counterpoint to that is HB 60 doesn't take effect until July 1. Not that it will matter to antis.

JSH1 said:
I expect them to blame a nut job with a gun.
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I suspect the gun will get blamed more than the nutjob.
 
"A FedEx Corp package handler armed with a shotgun opened fire at a shipping facility in suburban Atlanta early on Tuesday, injuring six people before killing himself, apparently with his own weapon, police and hospital officials said."

Hmmm...this needs a little bit more work to be accurate. How 'bout this:

"A FedEx Corp package handler armed with a shotgun opened fire at a shipping facility in suburban Atlanta early on Tuesday, injuring six people before killing himself[strike], apparently[/strike] with his own weapon since nobody else had a weapon in this posted gun and knife free zone, police and hospital officials said."


There. Much better. I shoulda been a journalist.

Well...except for that whole "accuracy in reporting" thing I have a problem with, maybe I coulda been.

;)
 
Plus isnt it standard that 4 or more need to die to qualify to be a mass shooting?
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According to the linked wiki article, you're correct. The FBI considers 4 people murdered within a short amount of time to be a mass murder. I'm pretty sure I've seen media categorize them with "2 or more" and "3 or more" too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder

I find it interesting that shotguns seem to be used more lately, at least the latest incidents that I've heard about, such as the Navy yard and a couple others. I agree with a post above that it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for the media to go after shotguns.
 
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As of this morning the FedEx shooting amounts to old news.

A FedEx employee wearing ammunition draped across his chest "like Rambo" opened fire Tuesday at a package-sorting center outside Atlanta, wounding six people before apparently committing suicide, police and witnesses said.
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So my guess is a disgruntled employee went on a shooting spree using a shotgun. No new legislation would have prevented the shooter from doing what he did. There is no way to legislate morality. I seriously doubt the anti gun agenda will be pushed as a result of this shooting. Would another armed employee been able to prevent this? Beats me as I wasn't there. A day after it happened it is even hard to find the story, already old news.

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The story may have faded from the media overnight, but somebody at the NY Daily News supermarket tabloid stayed up long enough to implicate Georgia gun law:

The shooter blasted away with a shotgun as he entered the 500,000-square-foot warehouse near Cobb County Airport in Kennesaw — a town with an ordinance requiring all residents to own a firearm.
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Complete speculation.

He was an employee, according to the news report. We may never know the motive, but I'd venture to guess it was a grudge rather than a random shooting based on a gun free zone location.
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Very good. To date, I don't know of any workplace mass shootings involving an employee or former employee doing the shooting where the employee was mad at somebody outside of the workplace. While confirmation would have to wait for future details to emerge one way or the other as such shootings are not related to previous workplace shooting events (mutually exclusive), the historical precedent is that workplaces shootings by employees are because they have issues with people at the workplace.

Turns out, Kramer did have issues at work...
http://www.11alive.com/story/news/local/kennesaw/2014/04/29/kennesaw-fedex-shooting/8448813/
 
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Frosty Dave said:
The story may have faded from the media overnight, but somebody at the NY Daily News supermarket tabloid stayed up long enough to implicate Georgia gun law:

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The shooter blasted away with a shotgun as he entered the 500,000-square-foot warehouse near Cobb County Airport in Kennesaw — a town with an ordinance requiring all residents to own a firearm.
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Yeah, the NY Daily News has always been just a notch to right of Pravda.
 
gunnutery said:
According to the linked wiki article, you're correct. The FBI considers 4 people murdered within a short amount of time to be a mass murder. I'm pretty sure I've seen media categorize them with "2 or more" and "3 or more" too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_murder

I find it interesting that shotguns seem to be used more lately, at least the latest incidents that I've heard about, such as the Navy yard and a couple others. I agree with a post above that it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for the media to go after shotguns.
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Once the shooters learn to use buckshot and slugs instead of birdshot it's going to make AR-15s and the others look like a good thing. With the five already stable or released it sounds like he used birdshot.

The tree in my front yard has more capacity for reason than a liberal. I had to deal with them everyday and they have no capacity to think beyond self. They have a victim mindset but are fear-biters. Many of the shooters have that mind set.

It would be interesting to see if he used a pump or semi-auto. Pump shotguns are cheap compared to an AR-15 and are in the millions in used gun racks starting at as little as $100.00. A lot of these guys are not exactly on top of the financial and brain chain so a pump-shotgun shooting mini-hand grenades must appeal to them.

These incidents where shotguns are used may be a good thing as it will take the heat off AR-15s and how are they going to ban shotguns and buckshot that are the only allowed deer hunting firearm in some areas and states?
 
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I never heard any stories from the media reports that said it was ANOTHER gun free zone shooting.

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Darn you FAS1...I was just about to post that same picture.

Stories like this really make me shake my head at modern media reporting of incidents. One said he "looked like he was going to war." Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. But when I went I didn't get my ammo until I hit country, I doubt Fedex had shells at the counter.
 
I think it is really unfortunate that people let things in their lives go so wrong for so long that they feel shooting up people and themselves is the only way to solve the problem. Really sad.

I don't trust the media to get any of the details correct, unless it has been weeks after an incident.
 
I did see a report today that said the box for the gun was found nearby, so it may be that he just purchased the gun before the shooting. Not too much is very clear at this point.
 
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