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FEMAnism In Denial (It's all Louisiana' fault)
Al Benson Jr.

Michael Brown has now testified before Congress. While he did admit to making "specific mistakes" he seemed more than willing to shuck the lion's share of the blame for the Hurricane Katrina response onto Louisiana's politicians. He blamed "dysfunctional" officials in Louisiana for most of the slow government response to the storm. Condemn others, elevate yourself.
Brown moaned about the budget and personnel cuts to FEMA. He sought to portray FEMA as a financially emaciated agency, whose best people had all been transferred to the Homeland Security Department, thus leaving him with a skeleton crew of disaster relief people to work with. Bear in mind that this is the same FEMA that handed out $31 million to around 13,000 residents of Miami-Dade in Florida for hurricane damages from Hurricane Frances, even though the area these particular 13,000 came from had suffered no hurricane damage! No wonder FEMA is broke. They've given all the money they had to deadbeats around the country that really should have had nothing coming. Massive redistribution of the taxpayer's wealth! Karl Marx would have loved it!

Brown intimated to Congress that FEMA had really gotten a bad rap out of all this because so many people have envisioned it as a "federal rapid-response force." And then Brown stated that FEMA is merely a "coordinating agency" we are not a law enforcement agency..." Now FEMA is merely a "coordinating agency" and, as such has no enforcement powers states Brown, as the pile of cow chips in FEMA's back forty grows by leaps and bounds with every statement! In other words, FEMA doesn't go in and push anyone around. They're just a little helper!

Franklin Sanders, writing in "The Moneychanger" for September, 2005 observed, quite accurately that: "Everywhere government agents, especially FEMA, made things worse. The rescue business has become so professionalized that FEMA wants no aid from volunteers. FEMA turned back the helpers, commandeered supplies they brought into the area, and generally tried to wreck every volunteer effort, not to mention the efforts of other governments and agencies. Storm victims now hate FEMA worse than Hurricane Katrina." Mr. Sanders did note that, in some instances, local governments didn't do much better.

And Mr. Sanders continued: "The most shocking thing about Katrina was not the individual violence, but the violence by government on stricken society. You may say they did more damage by incompetence, but I disagree. FEMA purposefully confiscated relief supplies, prevented helpers entering the area, and, working with state and local governments, contributed to a crisis that could only be quelled by calling in 50,000 troops. Local police, FEMA, and national guardsmen disarmed citizens, which resulted in more violence against now defenseless men and women." Interesting that these government agencies always seem to manage to disarm the honest folks, but, somehow, they never quite seem to get around to the crooks. Probably sheer coincidence. Far be it from me to suggest any other possibility.

The thing is, in the face of all that FEMA did, Mr. Brown had the unmitigated gall to stand before Congress and blithly inform them that all FEMA amounts to is a "coordinating agency." What, pray tell, do they "coordinate'? Chaos? Suspension of Second Amendment rights?

And then Brown points the finger at Louisiana politicians, calling them dysfunctional, and stating, basically, that it was really all their fault that things went so badly. Admittedly, they share some of the blame, but are they to blame for the relief supplies confiscated by FEMA. Are they to blame for the volunteer help that FEMA turned away? Are local govenrments, or even state governments to blame for the fact that it took FEMA six whole days to get someone to Hattiesburg, Mississippi after the storm to try to deal with the problems there?

It would be of interest to know just how much of FEMA's yearly budget goes to overpay all the bureaucrats and paper shufflers it employs. Based on their efficiency level, Congress could cut the funding to FEMA tomorrow and hand that money back to the states and no one would by any the worse off.

What we really need is a Congress willing to go through these alphabet soup agencies of the federal government and simply slice away each one that is unconstitutional and deny it funding. What a fond dream that would be. However, don't hold your breath waiting for this "conservative" Congress to do anything. "Pork Barrel" is their middle name!
 
Desertdog said:
"...The thing is, in the face of all that FEMA did, Mr. Brown had the unmitigated gall to stand before Congress and blithly inform them that all FEMA amounts to is a "coordinating agency..."

Let's put this issue in perspective; while FEMA might not have been proactive after Katrina, FEMA is not a first reponder. Prior natural disasters in Florida have been adequately handled by first reponders in Florida backed up by FEMA. Unfortunately, the issue with Katrina involved FEMA coordinating with Louisiana and Mississippi officials. I understand there was really no issue in Mississippi and FEMA coordination at beginning of Katrina aid in Mississippi was generally praised. Not so with Louisiana. Why?

Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin. Apparently both FEMA and President Bush had real problems coordinating with both Blanco and Nagin. The Emergency Evacuation Plan for Louisiana and New Orleans was ignored by both Blanco and Nagin. Blanco refused to declare evacuations as did Nagin, until it was too late. More than enough buses sat idle to evac flood plain areas. The rest of disaster is history.

The fallout from Katrina is still developing in Louisiana... in New Orleans, 20% of police force went AWOL, reports of police looting were rampant, and now superintendent retired. There is internal affairs police investigation under way. Despite federal and state objection, Mayor Nagin is welcoming residents to return to city of New Orleans with no power, no water, no utilities.

Now billions of dollars are headed to rebuild a city that can flood the next time it rains! The levee and dike system has numerous faults; the latest report from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is that they will not certify any point of New Orleans levee system, which means that any part of it can fail! Thus: why are people returning?

I cite all of this just to point out that there is quite a lot of blame here to pass around, rather than dumping it all on FEMA...

FEMA Director Brown resigned; Governor Blanco and Mayor Nagin should join him!
 
Uh, it was the local and state governments' fault. FEMA was designed to come in after the fact and help people recover. It is not a First Responder, it is not law enforcement. That is rightfully the responsibility of the state and local governments. The idea that we should sit around and wait for The Nanny to change our diapers for us is what got New Orleans into this mess in the first place.
That and being 22 feet below sea level.
 
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The Hallmark of the Underclass

By CHARLES MURRAY
September?29,?2005;?Page?A18

Watching the courage of ordinary low-income people as they deal with the aftermath of Katrina and Rita, it is hard to decide which politicians are more contemptible -- Democrats who are rediscovering poverty and blaming it on George W. Bush, or Republicans who are rediscovering poverty and claiming that the government can fix it. Both sides are unwilling to face reality: We haven't rediscovered poverty, we have rediscovered the underclass; the underclass has been growing during all the years that people were ignoring it, including the Clinton years; and the programs politicians tout as solutions are a mismatch for the people who constitute the problem.

* * *

We have rediscovered the underclass. Newspapers and television understandably prefer to feature low-income people who are trying hard -- the middle-aged man working two jobs, the mother worrying about how to get her children into school in a strange city. These people are rightly the objects of an outpouring of help from around the country, but their troubles are relatively easy to resolve. Tell the man where a job is, and he will take it. Tell the mother where a school is, and she will get her children into it. Other images show us the face of the hard problem: those of the looters and thugs, and those of inert women doing nothing to help themselves or their children. They are the underclass.

We in the better parts of town haven't had to deal with the underclass for many years, having successfully erected screens that keep them from troubling us. We no longer have to send our children to school with their children. Except in the most progressive cities, the homeless have been taken off the streets. And most importantly, we have dealt with crime. This has led to a curious paradox: falling crime and a growing underclass.

The underclass has been growing. The crime rate has been dropping for 13 years. But the proportion of young men who grow up unsocialized and who, given the opportunity, commit crimes, has not.

A rough operational measure of criminality is the percentage of the population under correctional supervision. This is less sensitive to changes in correctional fashion than imprisonment rates, since people convicted of a crime get some sort of correctional supervision regardless of the political climate. When Ronald Reagan took office, 0.9% of the population was under correctional supervision. That figure has continued to rise. When crime began to fall in 1992, it stood at 1.9%. In 2003 it was 2.4%. Crime has dropped, but criminality has continued to rise.

This doesn't matter to the middle and upper classes, because we figured out how to deal with it. Partly we created enclaves where criminals have a harder time getting at us, and instead must be content with preying on their own neighbors. But mainly we locked 'em up, a radical change from the 1960s and 1970s. Consider this statistic: The ratio of prisoners to crimes that prevailed when Ronald Reagan took office, applied to the number of crimes reported in 2003, corresponds to a prison population of 490,000. The actual prison population in 2003 was 2,086,000, a difference of 1.6 million. If you doubt that criminality has increased, imagine the crime rate tomorrow if today we released 1.6 million people from our jails and prisons.

* * *

Criminality is the most extreme manifestation of the unsocialized young male. Another is the proportion of young males who choose not to work. Among black males ages 20-24, for example, the percentage who were not working or looking for work when the first numbers were gathered in 1954 was 9%. That figure grew during the 1960s and 1970s, stabilizing at around 20% during the 1980s. The proportion rose again, reaching 30% in 1999, a year when employers were frantically seeking workers for every level of job. The dropout rate among young white males is lower, but has been increasing faster than among blacks.

These increases are not explained by changes in college enrollment or any other benign cause. Large numbers of healthy young men, at ages when labor force participation used to be close to universal, have dropped out. Remember that these numbers ignore young males already in prison. Include them in the calculation, and the evidence of the deteriorating socialization of young males, concentrated in low income groups, is overwhelming.

Why has the proportion of unsocialized young males risen so relentlessly? In large part, I would argue, because the proportion of young males who have grown up without fathers has also risen relentlessly. The indicator here is the illegitimacy ratio -- the percentage of live births that occur to single women. It was a minuscule 4% in the early 1950s, and it has risen substantially in every subsequent decade. The ratio reached the 25% milestone in 1988 and the 33% milestone in 1999. As of 2003, the figure was 35% -- of all births, including whites. The black illegitimacy ratio in 2003 was 68%. By way of comparison: The illegitimacy ratio that caused Daniel Patrick Moynihan to proclaim the breakdown of the black family in the early 1960s was 24%.

But illegitimacy is now common throughout the population, right? No, it is heavily concentrated in low-income groups. Perhaps illegitimacy isn't as bad as we used to think it was? No, during the last decade the evidence about the problems caused by illegitimacy has grown stronger. What about all the good news about falling teenage births? About plunging welfare rolls? Both trends are welcome, but neither has anything to do with the proportion of children being born and raised without fathers, and that proportion is the indicator that predicts the size of the underclass in the next generation.

The government hasn't a clue. Versions of every program being proposed in the aftermath of Katrina have been tried before and evaluated. We already know that the programs are mismatched with the characteristics of the underclass. Job training? Unemployment in the underclass is not caused by lack of jobs or of job skills, but by the inability to get up every morning and go to work. A homesteading act? The lack of home ownership is not caused by the inability to save money from meager earnings, but because the concept of thrift is alien. You name it, we've tried it. It doesn't work with the underclass.

Perhaps the programs now being proposed by the administration will help ordinary poor people whose socialization is just fine and need nothing more than a chance. It is comforting to think so, but past experience with similar programs does not give reason for optimism -- it is hard to exaggerate how ineffectually they have been administered. In any case, poor people who are not part of the underclass seldom need help to get out of poverty. Despite the exceptions that get the newspaper ink, the statistical reality is that people who get into the American job market and stay there seldom remain poor unless they do something self-destructive. And behaving self-destructively is the hallmark of the underclass.

* * *

Hurricane Katrina temporarily blew away the screens that we have erected to keep the underclass out of sight and out of mind. We are now to be treated to a flurry of government efforts from politicians who are shocked, shocked, by what they saw. What comes next is depressingly predictable. Five years from now, the official evaluations will report that there were no statistically significant differences between the subsequent lives of people who got the government help and the lives of people in a control group. Newspapers will not carry that story, because no one will be interested any longer. No one will be interested because we will have long since replaced the screens, and long since forgotten.

Mr. Murray, W.H. Brady Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, is the author, most recently, of "Human Accomplishment" (HarperCollins, 2003).
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What's amused me in all the finger-pointing, the blame-game, is the either-or nature of it. Sure, FEMA could have done better. No doubt. But Mr. Brown was correct in the use of the word "Dysfunctional". That was obvious from not only the pictures on TV, but the comments from Nagin and Blanco during the first days of Katrina's impact. IMO, they're convicted of dysfunction out of their own mouths.

A nitpick: After the brouhaha about convoys of food and water being turned back, it seems that the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security gave orders that were attributed to FEMA.

Art
 
Perhaps we know we have reached a sorry pass when public political discourse begins parroting pop-psych lingo. I liked the word "screw-up" a lot better. Of course, say it anyway you want, Brown was right--and so far Blanco and Nagin are still off the hook.
 
Let's put the WHOLE issue in perspective:


FEMA is an agency with only one thing to do: manage emergencies. PERIOD. They should know how to do that, they should know what they need to do that, and they SHOULD DO THAT when the need arises.

PERIOD.


Local governments, especially in dirt poor states like Louisiana, are lucky to keep afloat. They have no large and specialized capabilities to respond to a massive catastrophe..... and as the mess in south Texas showed us after Rita, NO STATE has the capability to handle such a disaster well enough.

PERIOD.

All the crap about "state's rights" is a bunch of baloney. In reality, we need the FED (more specifically, the DOD) to step in and flood an area with people, food, water and medical aid when such things happen.

FEMA knows this, Bush knows this, and the DOD knows this. They have said it repeatedly in their own reports dating back to 1992 when Andrew went through.

Brown is a total (expletive deleted) and a worthless whiner. He points the finger in every direction but his, and refuses to admit one thing: he was in charge, it happened on his watch, Katrina was KNOWN to be a monster for at least five days before it hit and still he (and his agency) failed miserably.

All the fingerpointing in the world at incompetent political appointees and local bozos doesn't change the fact he failed big time and deserved to be fired.
 
"All the crap about "state's rights" is a bunch of baloney. In reality, we need the FED (more specifically, the DOD) to step in and flood an area with people, food, water and medical aid when such things happen."

Blessings of the State, blessings of the Masses.

States' rights are bunk, so are individual rights... All power to the Feds!

People chose to live in the Gulf region. They choose how to live there too.
 
We haven't rediscovered poverty, we have rediscovered the underclass; the underclass has been growing during all the years that people were ignoring it, including the Clinton years;
Really.....

New government data also shows that President Bush's tax cuts have shifted the overall tax burden to the middle class from the wealthiest Americans.


Income Gap Of Poor, Rich, Widens
WASHINGTON, Aug. 16, 2004

Over two decades, the income gap has steadily increased between the richest Americans, who own homes and stocks and got big tax breaks, and those at the middle and bottom of the pay scale, whose paychecks buy less.

The growing disparity is even more pronounced in this recovering economy. Wages are stagnant and the middle class is shouldering a larger tax burden. Prices for health care, housing, tuition, gas and food have soared.

The wealthiest 20 percent of households in 1973 accounted for 44 percent of total U.S. income, according to the Census Bureau. Their share jumped to 50 percent in 2002, while everyone else's fell. For the bottom fifth, the share dropped from 4.2 percent to 3.5 percent.

Jobs and the economy top the list of voter concerns this election year. President Bush touts a strong economy that is growing, but polls find that Americans have doubts and think jobs are scarce. John Kerry is trusted more on the economy, with Democrats talking regularly of "two Americas," divided between the rich and everyone else.

That argument has merit, some private economists say.

"For those working in the bottom half of the pay scale, they're under an enormous amount of pressure," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Economy.com.

New government data also shows that President Bush's tax cuts have shifted the overall tax burden to the middle class from the wealthiest Americans.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/13/national/main635936.shtml
 
Blessings of the State, blessings of the Masses.

States' rights are bunk, so are individual rights... All power to the Feds!
Yeah, when a hurricane vaporizes all the power distribution in your area and there is no food available or clean water or sanitation....

keep telling yourself it's all about freedom as you refuse that "FED welfare" off the back of the trucks and "freely" choose to boil your water and poop in a hole in your back yard.

Funny, the people in Port Arthur and Beaumont would be glad to see some of that FED welfare anytime now.
 
My point wasn't that the Fed had no role or that we shouldn't be helping the victims of these tragedies. It's that when you live in certain areas you should be wise enough to take precautions against plausible disaster. That's true on an individual level and on a local level.

The prosperous already pay the lion's share of Federal taxes in America. The top half in income pay something like 96 per cent of all levies, as I recall. The affluent and semi-affluent are carrying this country. If there are fair ways of reducing the burden on the middle class American I'm for them, but it's also wrong to penalize, and criminalize, success in a country built on capitalism.
 
bountyhunter said:
FEMA is an agency with only one thing to do: manage emergencies. PERIOD. They should know how to do that, they should know what they need to do that, and they SHOULD DO THAT when the need arises.

A few points bountyhunter=>
1. As a Federal agency, FEMA and its personnel need to be requested by State and/or Local officials.
2. Military involvement in a state, especially Federal troops (Active Duty) is forbidden by the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, unless so requested by State and/or Local officials.
3. FEMA is not a first responder; State and/or Local officials shall act as the first responders in case of emergency.

Due to Louisiana not clearly understanding 1. and 2. above, FEMA was unable to coordinate and/or manage this Katrina emergency. Due to 3., FEMA could not act in place of State and/or Local control.
 
All the crap about "state's rights" is a bunch of baloney. In reality, we need the FED (more specifically, the DOD) to step in and flood an area with people, food, water and medical aid when such things happen.

Bzzzt. Please play again.

We do not need the DOD to step in and "flood an area with (aid.)" What we "need" is to ensure FEMA is able to carry out its mandate. The federal military's primary mission is not disaster relief, and it should not be made to suffer that sort of mission creep.

Get FEMA in order. As importantly, get your local state and county response plans together. Neither FEMA nor the DOD is going to reach you inside of three days. They won't even know where to go inside of three days. They need to /coordinate and support/ those who are already in place and should, if they are competent, know what needs to be done.

The federal government is supposed to provide the raw strength and muscle which the state and local governments may then coordinate and direct where it is needed. The system has worked great in Florida. It worked well in MS.

It didn't work out well in LA.

Your reasoning seems carefully construed to avoid admitting the incompetency of Blanco and Nagin. We "need" the DOD to step in because the "locals" are unable to coordinate in the wake of a disaster, goes the logic. Yet Florida hasn't needed the DOD to take over.

What does Florida have that Louisiana doesn't, aside from competent government?
 
Katrina Evacuees

Of the 15,000 housed here in San Antonio, 2500 were sheltered at a vacant shopping mall next to our neighborhood (Windsor Park if you know the city).

I can muster sincere feelings of sympathy for those poor folks, having lost most everything we had to Celia in Corpus Christi (8-3-70).

However, the National Guard was on the scene before the winds had gone below 40MPH. No Looting, no raping..and no Fear of same.

Here, on the other hand, crime went up in our area as a direct result of the Katrina evacuee's proximity to our neighborhood...100's of miles away from the storm's landfall. Police reports prove this. For sure the case number assigned the break in at my home does..because the perps fessed up and admitted to it.

I can understand getting water, bread, bandages, etc for your family and yourself then not paying for it in the chaos following a catasprophe... 'cause there's no one around to take the cash..but to steal a man's power wheel chair and his lawn mower is an entirely different kettle of fish! This on the heels of my driving over and giving those I thought looked deserving $20 bills!

It opened my eyes to the jaw dropping number of "under class" in this country..not just Nawlins..but every major city...and the "us against them" chip they carry. Perhaps putting the chip on a different shoulder every couple of weeks would help balance "their" perspective.

What's the saying about good intentions? You try to help and get kicked in the garbonzos for the effort.

Take Care
 
Brown is a total (expletive deleted) and a worthless whiner. He points the finger in every direction but his, and refuses to admit one thing: he was in charge, it happened on his watch, Katrina was KNOWN to be a monster for at least five days before it hit and still he (and his agency) failed miserably.
BountyHunter, I don't know quite what to say other than you are completely wrong. FEMA is not a First Responder nor is it law enforcement. That is the job of the state and local authorities. FEMA is supposed to come in after the fact. If anything, the actions of the Feds were far more effective than the locals. Why are you so pissed of at Mike Brown? Where are your diatribes against Blanco, Nagin, Compass et al?
 
FEMA is an agency with only one thing to do: manage emergencies.
Not the way I understand it, FEMA helps and manages recovery, not manage the emergencies.

The NG are dispatched at the behest of the governor. They normally have no police powers, only when the local law breaks down, as in NO.

FFEMA will station food, water and other supplies in a safe area until the danger passes, and then go in with it.

The Red Cross, the Salvation Army, Operation Blessings and other relief organizations does the same. They would all look stupid if the set up in a hurricane area, or other disaster area, before it was clear and then get wiped out themselves.

First responder - local authorities

Second responder - state authorties and maybe the NG as requested by the local authorties to their governor..

Third responder - federal government at the request of the governor.

There is a definate chain of response.

This is not to say there were no mistakes because there were many. In fact there were so many mistakes that it looked like ther was nobody in charge.
 
The prosperous already pay the lion's share of Federal taxes in America. The top half in income pay something like 96 per cent of all levies, as I recall. The affluent and semi-affluent are carrying this country. If there are fair ways of reducing the burden on the middle class American I'm for them, but it's also wrong to penalize, and criminalize, success in a country built on capitalism.
OK, another urban myth bites the dust:


Altogether, the bottom 40 percent of the population would receive just four percent of the tax cuts, about one-ninth what the richest one percent of the population would receive.

As conservative and liberal analysts alike have long recognized, the working families that face the highest marginal tax rates are those with incomes between about $13,000 and about $20,000. /// The Bush plan fails to reduce marginal tax rates at all for these working families.

///Some 82 percent of the benefits from the child credit proposal would accrue to the 40 percent of families with children with the highest incomes.(5) Only three percent of the benefits from this proposal would accrue to the bottom 40 percent of such families.

As a result, despite showering what is likely to be close to $2 trillion over 10 years in tax cuts — including tax cuts averaging approximately $40,000 each for the wealthiest one percent of Americans — the plan leaves out working-poor and near-poor families.

By contrast, the wealthiest one-percent of Americans would receive 43 percent of the total tax cuts, receiving an average tax cut of $46,000 each. The top five percent of filers would garner a little more than half of the tax cuts.




http://www.cbpp.org/2-5-01tax.htm


President Bush stated on February 2 at a Congressional Republican retreat that the current tax system is "unfair to people at the bottom end of the economic ladder" and that a critical part of his plan is to provide tax relief to help struggling low-income families make it into the middle class.

White House officials also have made statements in recent days portraying the tax cut as being most beneficial to lower-income working families because they would receive a 100 percent tax cut while those at high-income levels would have their taxes reduced by much smaller percentages.

These statements represent bold public relations strokes but generally are incomplete or misleading.

The tax package President Bush is expected to introduce ignores working-poor families; such families would receive no assistance under the proposal. The proposal provides no relief until a family's income surpasses 130 percent to 160 percent of the poverty line, depending upon family size and configuration. (Throughout, this analysis examines the Bush plan as proposed in the campaign and recently introduced by Senators Gramm and Miller.)
The plan does not reduce taxes for everyone who pays taxes. Many low-income working families that do not owe income tax pay significant payroll taxes, even when the effects of the Earned Income Tax Credit are considered; these families are not aided by the plan.

A single mother with two children who works full time and earns $22,000 would receive no tax cut whatsoever under the Bush plan. This may be the reason that after citing such a mother on February 2, the President retooled his example the next day.

The waitress earning $25,000 that President Bush mentioned in his February 3 radio address would get no tax cut or a tax cut of a few hundred dollars (depending on her child care costs). In contrast, her lawyer customer earning $250,000 would receive a tax cut of approximately $3,100 a year. (The lawyer's tax cut would be $8,400 if the Alternative Minimum Tax were eliminated, as some members of Congress are proposing to do.)

Altogether, the bottom 40 percent of the population would receive just four percent of the tax cuts, about one-ninth what the richest one percent of the population would receive.

The proposal does not reduce marginal rates at all on those working poor families that face the highest such rates of any families in the nation — working families with children that have incomes between about $13,000 and $20,000. The proposal also departs from a bipartisan Congressional consensus of the past two years by failing to include any marriage penalty relief for low-income working families, even though as a group such families face some of the largest such penalties of any families.

The Waitress and Her Customer at the Diner

The President pointed to a waitress with two children who earns $25,000 a year, portraying her as a partner in the tax cut with a highly-paid attorney making $250,000 a year who is the waitress' customer at a diner. This portrayal is questionable.

If the waitress is married and her family's income is $25,000, she would receive no tax cut under the Bush plan. Yet her family pays a substantial amount of federal taxes, including $3,825 in payroll taxes (including both the employee and employer share; most economists concur that the employer's share of the payroll tax is passed along to workers in the form of lower wages) and lesser amounts in gasoline and other excise taxes. The family's Earned Income Tax Credit of $1,500 would offset well under half of those taxes.(2)

If she is a single mother who pays at least $170 a month in child care costs so she can work and support her family — an amount that represents a rather modest expenditure for child care — she would receive no tax cut under the Bush plan despite having a significant net tax burden. If her child care costs are $100 a month, she would receive a small tax cut — less than $200 a year.(3)

By contrast, the attorney with a $250,000 income would receive a tax reduction of approximately $3,100 per year, assuming the current law Alternative Minimum Tax. If, however, the AMT were eliminated, her tax cut would equal an estimated $8,400.(4)

The average tax cut for those in the top one percent of the population would be about $40,000. (This figures includes the average effect on this group of repealing the estate tax, the benefits of which are heavily oriented among the top one percent of population.)

The Extent of Assistance to Low-income Working Families

The bottom 40 percent of the population would receive only four percent of the plan's tax cuts. This is about one-ninth the share of the tax cuts that would go to the wealthiest one percent of Americans.

//A married family with two children that earns $26,000 this year would have its income tax eliminated. But such a family owes only $20 in taxes. The elimination of 100 percent of its income tax liability would not be of much benefit to it.

If the Administration's goal is to reduce marginal tax rates on the low-income working families that face the highest rates in the nation — a worthy goal — the plan falls far short.

As conservative and liberal analysts alike have long recognized, the working families that face the highest marginal tax rates are those with incomes between about $13,000 and about $20,000. For each additional dollar these families earn, they lose up to 21 cents in the Earned Income Tax Credit, 7.65 cents in payroll taxes (15.3 cents if the employer's share of the payroll tax is counted), 24 cents to 36 cents in food stamp benefits, and additional amounts if they receive housing assistance or a child care subsidy on a sliding fee scale or are subject to state income taxes. No other Americans in any income bracket have as large a share of each additional dollar they earn "taxed away." The Bush plan fails to reduce marginal tax rates at all for these working families.

Ways to reduce marginal tax rates for such families are available, well known, and not especially expensive: raising the income level at which the Earned Income Tax Credit begins to phase down as earnings rise, and/or reducing the rate at which the EITC phases down. Bipartisan legislation introduced last year by Senators Rockefeller, Jeffords, and Breaux follows such a course, as do proposals made by Rep. Ben Cardin and the Clinton Administration. The Bush Administration has apparently chosen not to follow such a course and to leave marginal tax rates on these families at very high levels.

The likely Bush plan also departs from a bipartisan consensus formed in Congress over the past two years to reduce marriage tax penalties for low-wage working families, not just for middle- and upper-income families. Analysts generally concur that some of the most serious marriage penalties in the tax code are those that can face low-income working individuals as a result of the way the phase-out of the EITC is designed. Every major tax bill from both parties in the last year and a half — including major tax bills that Congress passed and President Clinton vetoed in 1999 and 2000 — has contained EITC reforms to provide marriage penalty relief for low-income working families. (Clinton vetoed the bills for other reasons; his budget, too, proposed EITC marriage penalty relief.) The Bush plan contains no such marriage penalty relief.

The Child Credit and the 10 Percent Bracket

The Administration is touting its proposals to create a new 10 percent bracket and to double the child credit as proposals designed in substantial part to benefit lower-income working families and help them enter the middle class. In fact, only a modest share of the tax-cut benefits from these proposals would go to low- or moderate-income families; much larger shares would go to high-income families. Approximately one-third of all children in the United States would fail to benefit from either proposal.

Consider the proposal to raise the child credit from $500 per child to $1,000. Under the Bush plan, this proposal would cut taxes for families with children that have incomes up to $200,000. Those who would benefit most are filers with incomes in the $110,000 to $200,000 range; they would receive the largest tax cuts under this proposal because the Bush plan not only would double the child credit but also would raise the income level above which the child credit phases out from $110,000 to $200,000, extending the credit for the first time to those in this income category. For many of these relatively affluent taxpayers, the child credit thus would rise from zero to $1,000 per child. For millions of children in low- and moderate-income working families, by contrast, the child credit would remain at zero or at its current level of $500 per child or rise to less than $1,000 per child (because their families would have insufficient income tax liability against which to apply the increase in the child credit).

As a consequence, when the increase in the child credit is fully in effect:

Some 82 percent of the benefits from the child credit proposal would accrue to the 40 percent of families with children with the highest incomes.(5) Only three percent of the benefits from this proposal would accrue to the bottom 40 percent of such families.

The top 20 percent of families would receive 46 percent of the tax-cut benefits from this proposal, a larger share than any fifth of the population would receive.
Several of these issues are discussed in more detail below.



The Income Levels at Which Families Would Begin to Receive Tax Cuts

The Bush plan would have no effect on working families that owe no federal income tax before the Earned Income Tax Credit is applied.(6) Many of these families pay significant amounts of federal taxes, but they make tax payments through the payroll tax (and to a much smaller degree, through excise and other taxes) rather than through the income tax.

The framers of the Bush plan could have reduced the high marginal tax rates and substantial marriage penalties that many such working families face by improving the EITC. Alternatively, the plan could have expanded the dependent and child care tax credit and made it available to the working poor, who currently are denied access to this credit because it is not refundable. The plan takes neither step. As a result, despite showering what is likely to be close to $2 trillion over 10 years in tax cuts — including tax cuts averaging approximately $40,000 each for the wealthiest one percent of Americans — the plan leaves out working-poor and near-poor families.


As Table 1 shows, the income level at which the tax cut would begin to take effect is about 140 percent to 160 percent of the poverty line for families with two children that incur no child care costs and do not itemize deductions. For families with child care costs and families that itemize, the income levels below which the Bush plan has no effect are higher. (See Table 2.) The income levels shown in these tables are the levels at which families begin to owe income tax before the EITC is applied and thus the levels at which the Bush tax cuts would begin to have an effect. Families with incomes slightly above these levels would receive small tax cuts.



The Portion of the Tax Cut that Would Go to Lower-income Families

To gain some perspective on the degree to which low- and moderate-income families are major beneficiaries of the Bush tax proposal, one can look at how the plan's tax cuts are apportioned among different income groups. Such an examination shows the plan to be heavily tilted away from low- and moderate-income families and toward wealthy individuals.

The principal analysis of how filers at different income levels would fare under the Bush plan — and how the tax-cut benefits would be divided among different income categories — is an analysis by Citizens for Tax Justice, using the Institute for Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP) model. This is a well-respected model developed in substantial part by former staff members of the Joint Committee on Taxation. CTJ tax distribution analyses, using the ITEP model, have been validated over the years by the fact that they generally yield results very similar to those produced by the highly respected career staff at the Treasury Department.

The CTJ analysis of the tax proposal that President Bush presented in the campaign finds the following results (these results reflect the tax cuts when fully in effect):

The bottom 40 percent of tax filers would receive four percent of the tax cuts. The average tax cut for this group would be $115.
The bottom 60 percent of filers would receive 13 percent of the tax cuts, receiving an average of $227 each. The bottom 80 percent of taxpayers would receive 29 percent of the tax cuts.
The 20 percent of filers exactly in the middle of the income spectrum would receive eight percent of the tax cuts and get an average tax reduction of $453.
By contrast, the wealthiest one-percent of Americans would receive 43 percent of the total tax cuts, receiving an average tax cut of $46,000 each. The top five percent of filers would garner a little more than half of the tax cuts.

During the campaign, the Bush campaign issued quite different numbers regarding the proportions of the tax cut that would go to different income categories. The campaign also cited figures from the Joint Tax Committee that were said to show that the proportion of the tax cut that would go to the top one percent of filers would be much smaller than the CTJ figures indicate. But neither the campaign's figures nor those from the Joint Tax Committee provide an accurate picture of the distribution of the proposed tax cuts. These figures exclude the effects of the proposal to repeal the estate tax, thereby substantially reducing the proportion of the tax cuts presented as going to those at the top of the income spectrum. To assess how the tax cuts would be apportioned among different income categories, one must examine all of the major elements of the tax-cut proposal — including estate tax repeal — not just some of those elements.

In the past, there has been some debate among analysts about the best methodology to use to determine what percentage of the estate tax is paid by people in different income categories and thus what percentage of the benefits from estate tax repeal would accrue to each income group. Under the ITEP model that CTJ uses, 91 percent of the estate tax is estimated to be paid by the top one percent of tax filers, and virtually all of the tax is estimated to be paid by the top five percent of filers. Such results should not be surprising. IRS data show that the estate tax is levied only in the case of two percent of deaths and that half of all estate taxes are paid on the estates of the wealthiest one of every 1,000 people who die.



The Treasury findings are broadly similar, although not identical, to the estimates in the ITEP model, which was constructed before the Treasury study became available. The Treasury study estimates that the top one percent of tax filers pay 64 percent of the estate tax (and thus would get 64 percent of the tax-cut benefits that would result from estate tax repeal), rather than paying 91 percent of the tax as the ITEP model estimates. The Treasury and ITEP figures on the proportion paid by the top five percent, however, are quite similar; the Treasury study estimates that the top five percent of filers pay 91 percent of the estate tax, as compared to 100 percent of the tax under the ITEP model. Under both sets of estimates, the top 20 percent of filers pay virtually all of the estate tax, and the tax does not affect the other 80 percent of the population.

///the top one percent of the population is estimated to receive 36 percent of the tax cuts under the Bush plan, rather than the 43 percent the CTJ analysis estimates (and to receive an average tax cut of $39,000 rather than $46,000). The top 20 percent of the population still is found to receive 71 percent of the tax cut, the same percentage as under the CTJ analysis. Similarly, the bottom 40 percent of the population still is found to receive four percent of the tax cut. The tax cut is found to be tilted heavily toward those with very high incomes and to provide only a modest percentage of its tax-cut benefits to the types of families that the White House appears to be touting as major beneficiaries.



Could Low-income Working Families be Adversely Affected?

If the magnitude of the Bush tax cut necessitates reductions in coming years in important programs for low- and moderate-income working families, such families could be adversely affected. This outcome must be regarded as a possibility. The cost of the tax cut exceeds $2 trillion over 10 years when one takes into account the increased interest payments on the debt the tax cut would engender and when the very reasonable assumption is made that the Alternative Minimum Tax will be reformed so it does not encroach heavily upon the middle class.(7) Yet the projected surpluses outside Social Security total only about $2 trillion when the Medicare portion of the surplus is set to the side and adjustments are made in the surplus estimate to reflect the cost of actions Congress is virtually certain to take, such as maintaining payments to farmers and extending the 20 tax credits that expire every couple of years and always are renewed.(8)

Furthermore, the CBO surplus estimates are only projections. Seventy percent of the projected non-Social Security surplus would occur in the second five years of the 10-year period, years for which budget projections are speculative and highly uncertain. The projected surpluses may not fully materialize. There consequently is risk that tax cuts of this magnitude could lead to budget reductions in future years. As the experience of the 1980s has shown, when such budget cuts are instituted, they are likely to have a disproportionate impact on programs for lower- and moderate-income families.
 
We do not need the DOD to step in and "flood an area with (aid.)" What we "need" is to ensure FEMA is able to carry out its mandate. The federal military's primary mission is not disaster relief, and it should not be made to suffer that sort of mission creep.
Yeah, niice try but tap dancing with semantics is more baloney:

I never said FEMA must OF ITSELF be able to flood a disaster area with relief, but they should be able to press the buttons that cause that relief to flow from the appropriate locations. That is the definition of "co ordinating a relief effort" and THAT IS THEIR JOB.

BountyHunter, I don't know quite what to say other than you are completely wrong. FEMA is not a First Responder nor is it law enforcement.
And that's called a Straw Man argument. I never said FEMA was either a first responder or a law enforcement agency. The states local agencies are the first responders but as was shown so clearly in Andrew, Katrina, and Rita, the "first response" agencies get instantly saturated and overwhelmed with the sheer magnitude of victims and it is then the job of FEMA to mobilize such resources as are required to safeguard American lives.

You know.... the case you are trying to defend would look a lot shinier if Bush hadn't already admitted he agreed the FED blew it and the DOD wasn't on record as saying they wre the only agency around who could handle that type of emergency.

All the whining, side stepping, tap dancing, local bashing, yadda yadda yadda is just trying to slap lipstick on the FEMA pig that fell flat on it's face. And Bush has admitted it..... why can't you?
 
The least wealthy 60 percent of Americans have less than 5 percent of the wealth in the U.S. but pay more than 14 percent of federal taxes.

Why is 60% of a population getting away with only paying 14% of their share?

Making more money is not a crime and should not be penalized with punitive taxation (after all, each person, rich or poor, should use only one person's worth of services from the government) and anyone who is willing to work can create a situation where either they or, more likely, their descendents can improve their situation.

My bog Irish ancestors got here and were ridiculed, marginalized and exploited. However, they got over, under, around and through it by ensuring their kids used every iota of comparative advantage the parents could gain by sacrificing themselves for the future.

The day we removed the need for any particular generation to sacrifice to drive future generations success is when everything began to fall apart.

To pull the race card, blacks were well on their way to digging themselves out just like the Irish, Polish, Italians and all others before them did, then the Fair Deal and Great Society came in and cut the ground (and their gains) out from under them.

All in the name of "making things easier and more fair."

I intend to make more than my Dad, as he wants me to. I don't need people like you giving my money away to cripple another man's chances of success.
 
As for FEMA, as a former employee of the State of Alaska Division of Emergency Services, who worked in procurement and was a trained member of the State's Incident Command Team as well as a member of an emergency communications team for remote response, I would suggest you read up on the Incident Command System which is the standard used up and down the local,State and Federal response ladder for every event from terrorist attack to wildfire.

There are plans at every level for every conceivable event. Each level has their responsibilities and the system works just fine if everyone does there job in a timely fashion.

LA was a cluster and FEMA's only real failing was to not recognize the incompetence and failure of the locals and State soon enough.

I know it offends people's sense of fair play to ascribe responsibility to those hurt but LA made its political bed and lay wetly in it when the bill came due.

This can be demonstrated by comparison with the responses of local and State officials in events (like the Good Friday quake up here) even before the ICS and FEMA-directed and funded emergency planning came into being.
 
Does the following sound fair to you:

What percentage of federal taxes are paid by the least wealthy 60% of Americans?

The least wealthy 60 percent of Americans have less than 5 percent of the wealth in the U.S. but pay more than 14 percent of federal taxes.

Nope it doesn't sound fair. Why should I be punished because I am in the top 40%? I think the bottom 60% should pay more. Turn it around, the top 40% in the country pay 86% of federal taxes.
 
Ditto that, auschip; and I'll go one further:
The wealthy don't require as many government services as the less well-off. Therefore, those earning less should pay more in taxes for the services they receive. It is only fair.
 
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